RE: [vchkpw] Switching from Mysql to Postgresql
Also, don't forget to check permissions on sequences. Had that bite me once. :) Charlie From: Joshua Coucke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:35 AMTo: vchkpw@inter7.comSubject: Re: [vchkpw] Switching from Mysql to Postgresql Charles J. Boening wrote: Did you try using the postgres user for the database instead of the one you made? I believe I did, but I will try it again, just to make sure. One of the things that happens on login that wouldn't with vuserinfo would be an insertion or update to the vlog table or lastauth table. If you want, contact me off list and we can discuss the possibility of me logging in to your system and checking things out. I may take you up on that offer if I can't figure this out.Joshua Coucke Charlie -Original Message- From: Joshua Coucke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 1:26 PM To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Switching from Mysql to Postgresql Charles J. Boening wrote: Is there anything in the log files? /var/log/mail/info or /var/log/mail/errors ... how about in /var/log/qmail/pop3d/current? Nothing in the logs that I could see. If vuserinfo is working, then your database hooks in vpopmail are all ok. How about doing a make clean and make and make install again? Then restart qmail. I have been doing make clean every time I recompile. How about if you telnet to the server on port 110 and try to auth by hand? You sure it's not a Thunderbird issue? Tried it and it failed just after I entered the password for the account. I had some issues at one point and I ended up deleting everything in ~vpopmail/etc ~vpopmail/include ~vpopmail/bin and ~vpopmail/lib then rebuilt vpopmail and rebuilt authdaemon. Then it all worked. I tried deleting everything out of those directories and then rebuilding vpopmail and it still failed Joshua From: Joshua Coucke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:53 AM To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Switching from Mysql to Postgresql Charles J. Boening wrote: I'm using vpopmail 5.4.10 successfully with PostgreSQL. How about permissions for your vpopmail sql user? Did you GRANT that user permissions to the database? Yes, the user does have permissions. How about running the commandline utilities? /home/vpopmail/bin/vuserinfo email addy I was able to get userinfo on an email address. And I was able to verify that the info was coming from the postgres db. (I changed some info in the db and ran the command again, the output was updated.) name: jdcoucke passwd: $1$39sHL0$r3PDZJzvwbTAKOxJD4HHq. clear passwd: ** comment/gecos: Joshua Coucke uid:0 gid:4096 flags: 4096 gecos: Joshua Coucke limits: has qmailadmin administrator access dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/lebanon-tn.com/jdcoucke quota: 4194304S usage: 0% NOTICE: CREATE TABLE / PRIMARY KEY will create implicit index "lastauth_pkey" for table "lastauth" last auth: Never logged in Thunderbird still returns an auth error. All of user info was imported from a mysql db using phpmyadmin and imported using phppgadmin. Would it make a difference if I used vconvert instead? Joshua. -Original Message- From: Joshua Coucke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:08 AM To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: [vchkpw] Switching from Mysql to Postgresql Hey, I used the QMR install with the MySQL option to install vpopmail. Now, however, I need to switch from MySQL to PostgreSQL as the backend for the whole thing. The problem I am having is that when I recompile vpopmail to use PostgreSQL and then procede to check my email I get an error telling me that authorazation failed. As far as I can tell I have provided the correct username and database for vpopmail in the vpgsql.h file. And I have imported into postgres the database from mysql. The other odd thing is that vqadmin and qmailadmin still seem to be using the mysql database after recompiling vpopmail for use with postgres. I am using vpopmail v5.4.10, postgres v8.0.1, and Fedora Core 3. Any ideas on the subject would be helpful. I tried to google for this but nothing came up. Joshua Coucke
[vchkpw] Max username length
In vpopmail.h MAX_PW_NAME is defined as 32, and the mysql column for pw_name is a varchar(32). This would lead me to believe it was intended to support up to 32 character usernames. However vadduser in vpopmail.c does: If( strlen(username) = MAX_PW_NAME ) rather than if( strlen(username) MAX_PW_NAME). Is this intentional, and if so then why is the mysql column defined the way it is? Cheers, Nick Nicholas Harring Ph/Fax/VM 877-609-4795 Sr. System Administrator Parus Interactive
RE: [vchkpw] Max username length
Nevermind, just noticed this is fixed in 5.4.7. Nick From: Nick Harring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:51 PM To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: [vchkpw] Max username length In vpopmail.h MAX_PW_NAME is defined as 32, and the mysql column for pw_name is a varchar(32). This would lead me to believe it was intended to support up to 32 character usernames. However vadduser in vpopmail.c does: If( strlen(username) = MAX_PW_NAME ) rather than if( strlen(username) MAX_PW_NAME). Is this intentional, and if so then why is the mysql column defined the way it is? Cheers, Nick Nicholas Harring Ph/Fax/VM 877-609-4795 Sr. System Administrator Parus Interactive
[vchkpw] compile vpopmail with -fPIC on x86_64
Hello all :) I'm trying to bring up courier-imap, which requires courier-authlib, however i am unable to compile courier-authlib. it complains about vpopmail. says i should recompile it with -fPIC. x-tad-bigger my configure flags are as followed: /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger for vpopmail: /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ./configure CFLAGS=-fPIC --enable-roaming-users=y --enable-logging=p --enable-qmaildir=/var/qmail/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger for courier-authlib: /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ./configure CFLAGS=-fPIC --prefix=/usr/local --exec-prefix=/usr/local --with-authvchkpw --without-authldap --without-authmysql --disable-root-check --with-ssl --with-authchangepwdir=/usr/local/libexec/authlib --with-redhat/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger I am going by the qmailrocks.org latest distro package. /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger vpopmail-5.4.9 /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger courier-authlib-0.55 /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger The following is the error message i receive from courier-authlib when i try to MAKE /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger --- /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /usr/bin/ld: /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vpopmail.o): relocation R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a: could not read symbols: Bad value /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger collect2: ld returned 1 exit status /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger make[2]: *** [libauthvchkpw.la] Error 1 /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger make[2]: Leaving directory `/downloads/qmailrocks/courier-authlib-0.55' /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger make[1]: Leaving directory `/downloads/qmailrocks/courier-authlib-0.55' /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger make: *** [all] Error 2 /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger ANY help, pointers, fixes .. support is greatly appreciated. :) Thanks, --marco Marco Prechel Storm Ready Builders, LLC www.StormReadyBuilders.com 12651 McGregor Blvd. Suite 1-101 Fort Myers, FL 33919 P. 239.481.0177 C. 239.410.2983 F. 239.481.4844 - Note: The information contained in this email and in any attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Sender accepts no liability for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and delete the email from your computer. This e-mail is and any response to it will be unencrypted and, therefore, potentially insecure. Thank you.
Re: [vchkpw] compile vpopmail with -fPIC on x86_64
Sorry if i forgot to mention ... this is a Dual Opteron (AMD64 - x86_64) w/ FC3 --marco Marco Prechel Storm Ready Builders, LLC www.StormReadyBuilders.com 12651 McGregor Blvd. Suite 1-101 Fort Myers, FL 33919 P. 239.481.0177 C. 239.410.2983 F. 239.481.4844 - Note: The information contained in this email and in any attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Sender accepts no liability for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and delete the email from your computer. This e-mail is and any response to it will be unencrypted and, therefore, potentially insecure. Thank you. On Apr 4, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Marco Prechel wrote: Hello all :) I'm trying to bring up courier-imap, which requires courier-authlib, however i am unable to compile courier-authlib. it complains about vpopmail. says i should recompile it with -fPIC. x-tad-bigger my configure flags are as followed: /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger for vpopmail: /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ./configure CFLAGS=-fPIC --enable-roaming-users=y --enable-logging=p --enable-qmaildir=/var/qmail/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger for courier-authlib: /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ./configure CFLAGS=-fPIC --prefix=/usr/local --exec-prefix=/usr/local --with-authvchkpw --without-authldap --without-authmysql --disable-root-check --with-ssl --with-authchangepwdir=/usr/local/libexec/authlib --with-redhat/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger I am going by the qmailrocks.org latest distro package. /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger vpopmail-5.4.9 /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger courier-authlib-0.55 /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger The following is the error message i receive from courier-authlib when i try to MAKE /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger --- /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /usr/bin/ld: /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vpopmail.o): relocation R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a: could not read symbols: Bad value /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger collect2: ld returned 1 exit status /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger make[2]: *** [libauthvchkpw.la] Error 1 /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger make[2]: Leaving directory `/downloads/qmailrocks/courier-authlib-0.55' /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger make[1]: Leaving directory `/downloads/qmailrocks/courier-authlib-0.55' /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger make: *** [all] Error 2 /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger ANY help, pointers, fixes .. support is greatly appreciated. :) Thanks, --marco Marco Prechel Storm Ready Builders, LLC www.StormReadyBuilders.com 12651 McGregor Blvd. Suite 1-101 Fort Myers, FL 33919 P. 239.481.0177 C. 239.410.2983 F. 239.481.4844 - Note: The information contained in this email and in any attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Sender accepts no liability for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and delete the email from your computer. This e-mail is and any response to it will be unencrypted and, therefore, potentially insecure. Thank you.
RE: [vchkpw] compile vpopmail with -fPIC on x86_64
I'm trying to bring up courier-imap, which requires courier-authlib, however i am unable to compile courier-authlib. it complains about vpopmail. says i should recompile it with -fPIC. my configure flags are as followed: for vpopmail: ./configure CFLAGS=-fPIC --enable-roaming-users=y --enable-logging=p --enable-qmaildir=/var/qmail for courier-authlib: ./configure CFLAGS=-fPIC --prefix=/usr/local --exec-prefix=/usr/local --with-authvchkpw --without-authldap --without-authmysql --disable-root-check --with-ssl --with-authchangepwdir=/usr/local/libexec/authlib --with-redhat The way to do this is: CFLAGS=-fPIC ./configure --enable-roaming-users=y --enable-logging=p --enable-qmaildir=/var/qmail CFLAGS is an environment variable, not an argument to configure. Hope that helps, Nick
Re: [vchkpw] compile vpopmail with -fPIC on x86_64
any idea how to use it then? if you run a #./configure --help it lists this on the bottom: --- Some influential environment variables: CC C compiler command CFLAGS C compiler flags LDFLAGS linker flags, e.g. -Llib dir if you have libraries in a nonstandard directory lib dir CPPFLAGSC/C++ preprocessor flags, e.g. -Iinclude dir if you have headers in a nonstandard directory include dir CPP C preprocessor Use these variables to override the choices made by `configure' or to help it to find libraries and programs with nonstandard names/locations. --- so would you not use it within the ./configure flags ? thats what i was thinking ... however that was my best guess --marco On Apr 4, 2005, at 5:01 PM, Nick Harring wrote: I'm trying to bring up courier-imap, which requires courier-authlib, however i am unable to compile courier-authlib. it complains about vpopmail. says i should recompile it with -fPIC. my configure flags are as followed: for vpopmail: ./configure CFLAGS=-fPIC --enable-roaming-users=y --enable-logging=p --enable-qmaildir=/var/qmail for courier-authlib: ./configure CFLAGS=-fPIC --prefix=/usr/local --exec-prefix=/usr/local --with-authvchkpw --without-authldap --without-authmysql --disable-root-check --with-ssl --with-authchangepwdir=/usr/local/libexec/authlib --with-redhat The way to do this is: CFLAGS=-fPIC ./configure --enable-roaming-users=y --enable-logging=p --enable-qmaildir=/var/qmail CFLAGS is an environment variable, not an argument to configure. Hope that helps, Nick
RE: [vchkpw] compile vpopmail with -fPIC on x86_64
any idea how to use it then? snip so would you not use it within the ./configure flags ? thats what i was thinking ... however that was my best guess --marco Marco - Run it the way I showed. You put CFLAGS=-fPIC BEFORE the ./configure. This makes it an environment variable. You can find more out about environment variables in man bash, ksh, or whatever shell you use. Hope that helps, Nick
Re: [vchkpw] compile vpopmail with -fPIC on x86_64
i will most def. try that tonight. however i can only test on the production machine, as all my other test machines are 32bit Intels. I will let you know most def. ... should be another 2 hours or so till i can take it down again. --marco ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY IDEAS/SOLUTIONS? On Apr 4, 2005, at 5:12 PM, Nick Harring wrote: any idea how to use it then? snip so would you not use it within the ./configure flags ? thats what i was thinking ... however that was my best guess --marco Marco - Run it the way I showed. You put CFLAGS=-fPIC BEFORE the ./configure. This makes it an environment variable. You can find more out about environment variables in man bash, ksh, or whatever shell you use. Hope that helps, Nick
Re: [vchkpw] compile vpopmail with -fPIC on x86_64
Jeremy, are you saying that one will have to run CFLAGS=-fPIC BEFORE the ./configure like Nick stated? so in essence i would run my configure as followed: x-tad-bigger#CFLAGS=-fPIC /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger./configure --enable-roaming-users=y --enable-logging=p --enable-qmaildir=/var/qmail/x-tad-bigger I apologize in advance, I'm learning. Thank You, --marco On Apr 4, 2005, at 5:25 PM, Jeremy Kitchen wrote: On Monday 04 April 2005 04:08 pm, Marco Prechel wrote: any idea how to use it then? if you run a #./configure --help it lists this on the bottom: --- Some influential environment variables: [snip] so would you not use it within the ./configure flags ? thats what i was thinking ... however that was my best guess no, if you read the first line of the section you pasted it says influential environment variables -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [vchkpw] compile vpopmail with -fPIC on x86_64
On Monday 04 April 2005 04:48 pm, Marco Prechel wrote: Jeremy, are you saying that one will have to run CFLAGS=-fPIC BEFORE the ./configure like Nick stated? so in essence i would run my configure as followed: #CFLAGS=-fPIC ./configure --enable-roaming-users=y --enable-logging=p --enable-qmaildir=/var/qmail yep, that's how you would do it. You could also do something like (assuming bash): # export CFLAGS=-fPIC # ./configure . but that would also affect all subsequent builds within that session. One thing I like to do, is create (outside of the source tree) files called say... ./configure-sqwebmail, ./configure-vpopmail, etc.. that contain my configure command lines. For instance, here's my ./configure-apache #!/bin/sh exec ./configure --with-so --enable-rewrite --enable-suexec \ --with-suexec-caller=nobody --with-suexec-docroot=/home/www --enable-ssl \ --enable-proxy --enable-dav --enable-dav-fs you could easily do something like: #!/bin/sh exec CFLAGS=-fPIC ./configure .. I apologize in advance, I'm learning. no need for apologies, everyone is new at some point :) -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp1Djpyk37fJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [vchkpw] compile vpopmail with -fPIC on x86_64
Jeremy, this is a little off the main topic, but i was wondering .. what does the -fPIC do? what causes this issue ? good buddy of mine wrote updates a QMAIL Install script ... does it all for you, including courier-IMAP or Bincc ... and he was wondering whether or not he shoudl include the -fPIC command when his script compiles vpopmail - whether this command will bomb cause errors on 32bit systems. I will take the production server down in a little, and try to install vpopmail with fpic the way you suggested. Thanks again, --marco On Apr 4, 2005, at 6:26 PM, Jeremy Kitchen wrote: On Monday 04 April 2005 04:48 pm, Marco Prechel wrote: Jeremy, are you saying that one will have to run CFLAGS=-fPIC BEFORE the ./configure like Nick stated? so in essence i would run my configure as followed: #CFLAGS=-fPIC ./configure --enable-roaming-users=y --enable-logging=p --enable-qmaildir=/var/qmail yep, that's how you would do it. You could also do something like (assuming bash): # export CFLAGS=-fPIC # ./configure . but that would also affect all subsequent builds within that session. One thing I like to do, is create (outside of the source tree) files called say... ./configure-sqwebmail, ./configure-vpopmail, etc.. that contain my configure command lines. For instance, here's my ./configure-apache #!/bin/sh exec ./configure --with-so --enable-rewrite --enable-suexec \ --with-suexec-caller=nobody --with-suexec-docroot=/home/www --enable-ssl \ --enable-proxy --enable-dav --enable-dav-fs you could easily do something like: #!/bin/sh exec CFLAGS=-fPIC ./configure .. I apologize in advance, I'm learning. no need for apologies, everyone is new at some point :) -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [vchkpw] compile vpopmail with -fPIC on x86_64
Jeremy, I did compile vpopmail the way you suggested ... and now i'm getting another error - different but same nature. -- Compiling authvchkpw.c authvchkpw.c: In function `auth_vchkpw_changepass': authvchkpw.c:142: warning: passing arg 1 of `parse_email' discards qualifiers from pointer target type Compiling authvchkpwlib.c Compiling preauthvchkpw.c preauthvchkpw.c: In function `auth_vchkpw_pre': preauthvchkpw.c:67: warning: passing arg 1 of `parse_email' discards qualifiers from pointer target type preauthvchkpw.c:141: warning: passing arg 3 of `vset_lastauth' discards qualifiers from pointer target type Linking libauthvchkpw.la /usr/bin/ld: /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(cdb_seek.o): relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against `read@@GLIBC_2.2.5' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Bad value collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [libauthvchkpw.la] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/downloads/qmailrocks/courier-authlib-0.55' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/downloads/qmailrocks/courier-authlib-0.55' make: *** [all] Error 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] courier-authlib-0.55]# - On Monday, April 04, 2005, at 06:26PM, Jeremy Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 04 April 2005 04:48 pm, Marco Prechel wrote: Jeremy, are you saying that one will have to run CFLAGS=-fPIC BEFORE the ./configure like Nick stated? so in essence i would run my configure as followed: #CFLAGS=-fPIC ./configure --enable-roaming-users=y --enable-logging=p --enable-qmaildir=/var/qmail yep, that's how you would do it. You could also do something like (assuming bash): # export CFLAGS=-fPIC # ./configure . but that would also affect all subsequent builds within that session. One thing I like to do, is create (outside of the source tree) files called say... ./configure-sqwebmail, ./configure-vpopmail, etc.. that contain my configure command lines. For instance, here's my ./configure-apache #!/bin/sh exec ./configure --with-so --enable-rewrite --enable-suexec \ --with-suexec-caller=nobody --with-suexec-docroot=/home/www --enable-ssl \ --enable-proxy --enable-dav --enable-dav-fs you could easily do something like: #!/bin/sh exec CFLAGS=-fPIC ./configure .. I apologize in advance, I'm learning. no need for apologies, everyone is new at some point :) -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
