Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-07 Thread Brian Kolaci
OK OK. Brian had me thinking that the quota was stored in a database with all of that talk about pw_shell and limits API calls. I now see that (as I originally thought), the quota is actually stored in the 'maildirsize' file. (I opened it up and looked at it in my maildir) It is

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-07 Thread Jesse Guardiani
On Friday 07 March 2003 08:01, Brian Kolaci wrote: OK OK. Brian had me thinking that the quota was stored in a database with all of that talk about pw_shell and limits API calls. I now see that (as I originally thought), the quota is actually stored in the 'maildirsize' file.

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-07 Thread Jesse Guardiani
On Friday 07 March 2003 09:47, Jesse Guardiani wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 08:01, Brian Kolaci wrote: Hang on. I think I just realized what I've been missing the entire time: The USER QUOTAS still work! That means that maildrop and courier still enforce them. But when you create a domain,

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-07 Thread Jesse Guardiani
On Friday 07 March 2003 10:13, Jesse Guardiani wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 09:47, Jesse Guardiani wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 08:01, Brian Kolaci wrote: Hang on. I think I just realized what I've been missing the entire time: The USER QUOTAS still work! That means that maildrop and

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-07 Thread Bill Shupp
On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 07:15 AM, Jesse Guardiani wrote: So, Bill, why don't you think Ken might not sign off on this? Because I can't read his mind. I put together what I think is appropriate. That doesn't mean he will agree. Since he was the one to implement vadddomain -u to support

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-07 Thread Jesse Guardiani
On Friday 07 March 2003 12:29, Bill Shupp wrote: On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 07:15 AM, Jesse Guardiani wrote: So, Bill, why don't you think Ken might not sign off on this? Because I can't read his mind. I put together what I think is appropriate. That doesn't mean he will agree. Since

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Brian Kolaci
Howdy list, I'm just wondering a few things about the new domain wide quotas: Are these quotas implemented in vdelivermail? Yes. Or are they implemented with system quotas? You can do that also if you wish, however you'll need to supply your own scripts for that. Will I

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Jesse Guardiani
On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:49, Brian Kolaci wrote: Howdy list, I'm just wondering a few things about the new domain wide quotas: Are these quotas implemented in vdelivermail? Yes. Ok. Or are they implemented with system quotas? You can do that also if you wish,

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Brian Kolaci
Or are they implemented with system quotas? You can do that also if you wish, however you'll need to supply your own scripts for that. So, basically, no? What would I have to supply to use system quotas? If you wish to use system quota's, you'll need to write a

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Bill Shupp
On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 06:16 AM, Jesse Guardiani wrote: Howdy list, I'm just wondering a few things about the new domain wide quotas: Are these quotas implemented in vdelivermail? Or are they implemented with system quotas? Will I still be able to use maildrop to filter my mail? I

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Jesse Guardiani
On Thursday 06 March 2003 11:28, Bill Shupp wrote: On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 06:16 AM, Jesse Guardiani wrote: Howdy list, I'm just wondering a few things about the new domain wide quotas: Are these quotas implemented in vdelivermail? Or are they implemented with system quotas?

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Bill Shupp
On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Jesse Guardiani wrote: Thanks, Bill, but Brian was kind enough to answer most of my questions directly. Last time I checked, mailing lists were a good place for open discussion. Of course they are. But reading documentation can reduce unnecessary

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Jesse Guardiani
On Thursday 06 March 2003 13:20, Bill Shupp wrote: On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Jesse Guardiani wrote: snip I'd be curious to see if Mr. Sam accepts such patches. I personally think that this new non-system domain quota feature is unnecessary, when system quotas are available,

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Brian Kolaci
I'd be curious to see if Mr. Sam accepts such patches. I personally think that this new non-system domain quota feature is unnecessary, when system quotas are available, easily implemented, and a better solution. But enough people seemed to want it for some reason, and Brian

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Brian Kolaci
So the domain quotas aren't stored in a file, but rather in whatever database backend you happen to be using? They are stored in either the .qmailadmin-limits file, or MySQL, if enabled. The user quota is stored in the pw_shell attribute of the password entry for the user. I'd

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Jesse Guardiani
On Thursday 06 March 2003 14:15, Brian Kolaci wrote: So the domain quotas aren't stored in a file, but rather in whatever snip Good luck trying to get everyone to swap to a file based system. I personally like *everything* in the database rather than filesystem. All the information

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Brian Kolaci
If vpopmail stores the actual user quota in a database, and the maildirsize file just stores the current size of the maildir (which IS a file based system, BTW), then doesn't that mean that Maildrop has NEVER been capable of enforcing maildir++ with vpopmail? I guess I wasn't

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Jesse Guardiani
On Thursday 06 March 2003 16:40, Brian Kolaci wrote: If vpopmail stores the actual user quota in a database, and the maildirsize file just stores the current size of the maildir (which IS a file based system, BTW), then doesn't that mean that Maildrop has NEVER been capable of

RE: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Michael Bowe
-Original Message- From: Jesse Guardiani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 7 March 2003 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question As far as I can tell, maildirsize is only recalculated from scratch when it doesn't exist. The maildirsize

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Bill Shupp
On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 01:40 PM, Brian Kolaci wrote: I guess I wasn't explicit enough. I assumed people already knew how the quota's are stored. The user quota for vpopmail is stored in the pw_shell attribute of the vqpasswd structure. Where this information is stored (db, cdb, file)

Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question

2003-03-06 Thread Jesse Guardiani
- Original Message - From: Bill Shupp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] new quota support question On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 01:40 PM, Brian Kolaci wrote: I guess I wasn't explicit enough. I assumed people