Re: spam on lists

2001-11-05 Thread Robin S. Socha

* Dave Weiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 * Ken Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Which qmailadmin options should I set for the mailing lists?

 Definitly -x. Also run them through a procmail recipe that applies
 weighted scoring to quoting ratios and kill all full-quoters. While
 you're at it, killfile anything that says Outlook or MS Mail.

 No God Damnit!  I am sick and tired of all of you who assume just
 because I use Outlook Express as my mail client that I don't have a
 friggin' clue.  Because DJB has done this with all of his mailing
 lists, I'm now denied access to resources such as the qmail mailing
 list.

The lists are archived. Feel free to write an extension for Gnus to
browse them. Yes, Gnus groks various web archive formats including
freshmeat and /..

 Yes, there are some of use with clue(tm) that know how to configure OE
 properly, and use it.  

Cool. So why didn't you publish your patches against, say, Melissa
earlier? You could have become a hero.

Oh. You didn't have any? Well, so much for your clue(tm) and knowledge
of configuring broken closed source software, Dave.

 Strip attachements and HTML if you want, I have no problem with that.
 But deny me access to this list because of the mailer I use???  Get a
 Fuckin' life!

Dave, I run mailservers. It is because of people like you that people
like me have to deal with gigabytes (I'm not kidding) of .doc and .xls
files sent by various Microsoft viruses. It's just not worth it, you
know? Really. Microsoft has had a lot of time to fix their operating
system and their internet tools. They haven't succeeded. And I'm fed up
sick with mopping up the bloody trail they leave all across *MY* servers.

 Did I forget anything? Yes. RSP for administrivia to the list.

Add RSP for reality-proof lusers.



Re: spam on lists

2001-11-05 Thread Dave Weiner

  No God Damnit!  I am sick and tired of all of you who assume just
  because I use Outlook Express as my mail client that I don't have a
  friggin' clue.  Because DJB has done this with all of his mailing
  lists, I'm now denied access to resources such as the qmail mailing
  list.

 The lists are archived. Feel free to write an extension for Gnus to
 browse them. Yes, Gnus groks various web archive formats including
 freshmeat and /..

Why would I do that when I don't use or like Gnus?


  Yes, there are some of use with clue(tm) that know how to configure OE
  properly, and use it.

 Cool. So why didn't you publish your patches against, say, Melissa
 earlier? You could have become a hero.

I said I know how to configure it, Not how to patch it


 Oh. You didn't have any? Well, so much for your clue(tm) and knowledge
 of configuring broken closed source software, Dave.

Can you demonstrate a single instance of *ANY* OE propogated virus that
originated from me?  I don't think so.  I think that demonstrates my clue in
configuring OE.


  Strip attachements and HTML if you want, I have no problem with that.
  But deny me access to this list because of the mailer I use???  Get a
  Fuckin' life!

 Dave, I run mailservers. It is because of people like you that people

So do I.  I run a qmail cluster for a nationwide DSL provider.

 like me have to deal with gigabytes (I'm not kidding) of .doc and .xls
 files sent by various Microsoft viruses. It's just not worth it, you

Have *I* ever sent you gigabytes of infected files?  I don't think so.
Don't paint me with that brush.  I'm sure I've gotten just as much as you.

 know? Really. Microsoft has had a lot of time to fix their operating
 system and their internet tools. They haven't succeeded. And I'm fed up
 sick with mopping up the bloody trail they leave all across *MY* servers.

So am I.  But that doesn't change the fact that OE gives me the combination
of features *I* want.  Yes, I'm used Pine, Elm, Mutt, Gnus and a whole slew
of other mua's.  And every time, I come back to OE because it gives me what
I want, and works the way I want.

  Did I forget anything? Yes. RSP for administrivia to the list.

 Add RSP for reality-proof lusers.

I guess for people like Robin we'll need RSP for Rectal Cranium
Inversion

Dave




spam on lists

2001-11-05 Thread Ken Jones

When I get the time I will re-create the mailing lists
with the suggested options. 

Which qmailadmin options should I set for the mailing lists?

Ken Jones






Re: spam on lists

2001-11-05 Thread Robin S. Socha

* Ken Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Which qmailadmin options should I set for the mailing lists?

Definitly -x. Also run them through a procmail recipe that applies
weighted scoring to quoting ratios and kill all full-quoters. While
you're at it, killfile anything that says Outlook or MS Mail. 

Did I forget anything? Yes. RSP for administrivia to the list.



Re: spam on lists

2001-11-05 Thread Dave Weiner

 * Ken Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Which qmailadmin options should I set for the mailing lists?

 Definitly -x. Also run them through a procmail recipe that applies
 weighted scoring to quoting ratios and kill all full-quoters. While
 you're at it, killfile anything that says Outlook or MS Mail.

No God Damnit!  I am sick and tired of all of you who assume just because I
use Outlook Express as my mail client that I don't have a friggin' clue.
Because DJB has done this with all of his mailing lists, I'm now denied
access to resources such as the qmail mailing list.

I *like* Outlook Express.  I've evaluated any number of mail clients, and I
keep comming back to Outlook Express.  The mail client that comes with
Mozilla has some possibilities, but I haven't had a chance to eval it yet.

Yes, there are some of use with clue(tm) that know how to configure OE
properly, and use it.  Strip attachements and HTML if you want, I have no
problem with that.  But deny me access to this list because of the mailer I
use???  Get a Fuckin' life!


 Did I forget anything? Yes. RSP for administrivia to the list.


Dave