Re: [vchkpw] Deleting primary domain; keeping alias domains

2009-04-02 Thread Root Kit
Hello,

I would like to unsubscribe to this list.

Thank you.





From: Rick Widmer vch...@developersdesk.com
To: vchkpw@inter7.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 5:52:17 AM
Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Deleting primary domain; keeping alias domains



John Simpson wrote:
 so it looks like the only non-trivial thing which hasn't been covered already 
 is updating the vpasswd file and running vmkpasswd to rebuild the 
 vpasswd.cdb file.

As long as you don't have any ezmlm mailing lists...  I believe the domain name 
appears in come of its control files.


Rick




  

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Re: [vchkpw] Deleting primary domain; keeping alias domains

2009-04-02 Thread Tom Collins
Instead of jumping all of these hoops, I find that it's easier to  
manually remove the real domain from all files in /var/qmail/controls  
and its entry in users/assign. Then edit the alias entry in users/ 
assign to have the new real domain in the second column.  You'll  
have to run qmail-newu, qmail-newmrh and -HUP qmail-send.


Keep the directory name the same to avoid breaking .qmail files,  
autoresponders, mailing lists, etc. If you really want to rename the  
directory, create a symlink with the old name. (You'll still want to  
grep the config files of each mailing


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Re: [vchkpw] Deleting primary domain; keeping alias domains

2009-03-31 Thread John Simpson

On 2009-03-18, at 1151, Charlie Garrison wrote:

On 18/03/09 at 9:31 AM -0500, Matt Brookings m...@inter7.com wrote:

Charlie Garrison wrote:
Is there a proper way to delete a domain which is currently  
configured

as the primary domain for an account? And I want one of the current
domain aliases to become the primary domain.
 I can't find any comprehensive documentation for vdeldomain.  
Maybe it

will do what I want; I don't have a test system to try it on though.


An alias is just that, an alias.  It is not an actual domain.  If  
you delete
the primary, the alias will not function because there is no  
primary domain

data for it to alias.


I guessed that, which is why I was asking how to delete the primary  
domain. I want one of the domain aliases to become the primary  
domain. Is there any way to do that short of completely recreating  
the setup for that domain/directory? The primary domain is no longer  
in use (has expired) and I would like to completely remove all  
references to it.


My thought was to 'mv' the domain directory to the name of the  
domain alias, and manually edit the qmail/users/assign file  
accordingly. But I don't know if there are other locations where the  
primary domain name is stored that would also need to be updated.  
(I'm ignoring rcpthosts, etc for now since they seem to be easy  
changes.)


i had a case like this a few years back. when the client started  
hosting, they used one domain name. they then added two others as  
aliases, and printed all of their business cards with one of the alias  
domains. a year later they decided to give up the original domain  
name, and wanted the alias on their business cards to become the  
primary.


from what i remember, the process looked like this:

- shut down qmail-send and all POP3/IMAP services

- delete the alias domain which is about to become primary (using  
vdeldomain)


- create the new primary as a physical domain (using vadddomain)

- use mv to move the contents of domains/olddomain.xyz into domains/ 
newdomain.xyz


*** edit the vpasswd file so the directory names accurately reflect  
their new names (i used sed for this.)


*** run vmkpasswd newdomain.xyz

- delete the old domain (using vdeldomain)

- start up qmail-send and the POP3/IMAP services

so it looks like the only non-trivial thing which hasn't been covered  
already is updating the vpasswd file and running vmkpasswd to  
rebuild the vpasswd.cdb file.



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Re: [vchkpw] Deleting primary domain; keeping alias domains

2009-03-18 Thread Charlie Garrison

Good morning,

On 18/03/09 at 9:31 AM -0500, Matt Brookings m...@inter7.com wrote:


Charlie Garrison wrote:

Is there a proper way to delete a domain which is currently configured
as the primary domain for an account? And I want one of the current
domain aliases to become the primary domain.
  I can't find any comprehensive documentation for 
vdeldomain. Maybe it

will do what I want; I don't have a test system to try it on though.


An alias is just that, an alias.  It is not an actual domain.  If you delete
the primary, the alias will not function because there is no primary domain
data for it to alias.


I guessed that, which is why I was asking how to delete the 
primary domain. I want one of the domain aliases to become the 
primary domain. Is there any way to do that short of completely 
recreating the setup for that domain/directory? The primary 
domain is no longer in use (has expired) and I would like to 
completely remove all references to it.


My thought was to 'mv' the domain directory to the name of the 
domain alias, and manually edit the qmail/users/assign file 
accordingly. But I don't know if there are other locations where 
the primary domain name is stored that would also need to be 
updated. (I'm ignoring rcpthosts, etc for now since they seem to 
be easy changes.)


Thanks,
Charlie

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Re: [vchkpw] Deleting primary domain; keeping alias domains

2009-03-18 Thread Remo Mattei
Here is how you could make it work with the mv


Backup all your data. Remove the domain and alias create a new domain and
all users for that domain cp or mv all that mgs into the new domain. It
should be fine for you.

Just my 2 cents.
Remo


 From: Charlie Garrison garri...@zeta.org.au
 Reply-To: vchkpw@inter7.com
 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:51:46 +1100
 To: vchkpw@inter7.com
 Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Deleting primary domain; keeping alias domains
 
 Good morning,
 
 On 18/03/09 at 9:31 AM -0500, Matt Brookings m...@inter7.com wrote:
 
 Charlie Garrison wrote:
 Is there a proper way to delete a domain which is currently configured
 as the primary domain for an account? And I want one of the current
 domain aliases to become the primary domain.
   I can't find any comprehensive documentation for
 vdeldomain. Maybe it
 will do what I want; I don't have a test system to try it on though.
 
 An alias is just that, an alias.  It is not an actual domain.  If you delete
 the primary, the alias will not function because there is no primary domain
 data for it to alias.
 
 I guessed that, which is why I was asking how to delete the
 primary domain. I want one of the domain aliases to become the
 primary domain. Is there any way to do that short of completely
 recreating the setup for that domain/directory? The primary
 domain is no longer in use (has expired) and I would like to
 completely remove all references to it.
 
 My thought was to 'mv' the domain directory to the name of the
 domain alias, and manually edit the qmail/users/assign file
 accordingly. But I don't know if there are other locations where
 the primary domain name is stored that would also need to be
 updated. (I'm ignoring rcpthosts, etc for now since they seem to
 be easy changes.)
 
 Thanks,
 Charlie
 
 -- 
 Charlie Garrison  garri...@zeta.org.au
 PO Box 141, Windsor, NSW 2756, Australia
 
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Re: [vchkpw] Deleting primary domain; keeping alias domains

2009-03-18 Thread Joshua Megerman

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 Joshua Megerman wrote:
 environment.  When in doubt, DON'T DO THIS.

 Now, if you just want to stop receiving email for the primary domain and
 not delete it completely, take your server out of the MX entry, point
 the
 domain A record somewhere that doesn't accept mail, and/or add the
 domain
 to qmail's badmailto file (assuming you have that patch installed).

 While there are several ways to rename a domain, which is essentially what
 is
 being done here, the best question to ask one's self before beginning this
 very manual process, is if you NEED to, and if you have the experience
 with
 your backend database selection, and with qmail.

 The only time you really NEED to do this is if the domain is hosted on a
 remote
 site now, and the users of this system need to be able to email the remote
 system.  If your users of this domain own both domains, and simply want
 the
 new domain to 'be their primary', just tell them it's done, and to use the
 new domain name and leave everything as it is.

I totally agree - in my case I was hosting a subdomain of a domain that
the company wasn't renewing the registration on and I really didn't want
to be hosting a domain we didn't own anymore.  Plus like I said it was
small and still in testing (the decision to not renew the domain (and
migrate the process to the other one) was made after the initial setup was
completed with the original domain) I figured the worst case scenario was
to delete the whole thing and start from scratch :)

 The instructions above look correct by the way :)

Thanks!

Josh

Joshua Megerman
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