Re: [vchkpw] Setting Qmailqueue value for virtual domains

2003-09-11 Thread Martin Horsley
Paul Theodoropoulos wrote:
you could get away with two stages - run a spam filtering smtpd on an 
alternate port on your vpopmail server - i use port 26 - then you can 
use smtproutes on the primary/secondary MX to feed to the different 
ports, eg:

iwantspam.com:myvpopmailserver.com:25
idontwantspam.com:myvpopmailserver.com:26
Thanks Paul, this does seem to be the most likely way.  Could you give 
me some pointers on how I would go about getting another version of 
qmail-smtpd to listen on a different port?

I use supervise scripts to launch qmail.  Do I need to add an additional 
supervise script and add the listening port in some manner?  Or, do I 
need to recompile qmail?

Many thanks

Martin.




Re: [vchkpw] Setting Qmailqueue value for virtual domains

2003-09-11 Thread Paul Theodoropoulos
At 03:38 AM 9/11/2003, Martin Horsley wrote:
Paul Theodoropoulos wrote:
you could get away with two stages - run a spam filtering smtpd on an 
alternate port on your vpopmail server - i use port 26 - then you can use 
smtproutes on the primary/secondary MX to feed to the different ports, eg:
iwantspam.com:myvpopmailserver.com:25
idontwantspam.com:myvpopmailserver.com:26
Thanks Paul, this does seem to be the most likely way.  Could you give me 
some pointers on how I would go about getting another version of 
qmail-smtpd to listen on a different port?

I use supervise scripts to launch qmail.  Do I need to add an additional 
supervise script and add the listening port in some manner?  Or, do I need 
to recompile qmail?
easiest method by far is to use Tetsu Ushimima's qmail-conf package -
http://www.din.or.jp/~ushijima/qmail-conf.html
then the invocation i used was:

qmail-smtpd-conf qmaild qmaill /var/qmail/service/smtpd-sa

to indicate 'smtpd SpamAssassin', but you can call it whatever you want. 
since i also run a *third* smtpd for customers who are on networks that 
block outbound port 25, i also run one called smtpd-2525, which is the 
alternate port i offer those customers to use to bypass the blocking.

after qmail-conf has built the structure, go into 
/var/qmail/service/smtpd-sa/env, then

echo 26  PORT

or again, whatever port you choose to use. then complete the rest of the 
steps for setting up the service, and you're in business.

Paul Theodoropoulos
http://www.anastrophe.com




Re: [vchkpw] Setting Qmailqueue value for virtual domains

2003-09-11 Thread Tom Collins
On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 08:59  AM, Paul Theodoropoulos 
wrote:
i also run a *third* smtpd for customers who are on networks that 
block outbound port 25, i also run one called smtpd-2525, which is the 
alternate port i offer those customers to use to bypass the blocking.
There's actually a port reserved for that (called message submission) 
-- port 587.  Many of my customers have been using it (including myself 
for when I travel and use various dialups or other unfamiliar networks).

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Re: [vchkpw] Setting Qmailqueue value for virtual domains

2003-09-11 Thread Paul Theodoropoulos
At 09:54 AM 9/11/2003, Tom Collins wrote:
On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 08:59  AM, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote:
i also run a *third* smtpd for customers who are on networks that block 
outbound port 25, i also run one called smtpd-2525, which is the 
alternate port i offer those customers to use to bypass the blocking.
There's actually a port reserved for that (called message submission) -- 
port 587.  Many of my customers have been using it (including myself for 
when I travel and use various dialups or other unfamiliar networks).
yeah, i don't doubt it. however, the concept of ports is difficult enough 
to understand for most average end-users. by using 2525, it makes it easier 
mnemonically for them to switch between the well-known port and the 
alternative. I suppose someday someone may experience a conflict if they 
try running MS V-Worlds which is the name for 2525, but so far, no 
problems. ;^)



Paul Theodoropoulos
http://www.anastrophe.com




Re: [vchkpw] Setting Qmailqueue value for virtual domains

2003-09-11 Thread Nick Harring
Paul Theodoropoulos wrote:

At 09:54 AM 9/11/2003, Tom Collins wrote:

On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 08:59  AM, Paul Theodoropoulos 
wrote:

i also run a *third* smtpd for customers who are on networks that 
block outbound port 25, i also run one called smtpd-2525, which is 
the alternate port i offer those customers to use to bypass the 
blocking.


There's actually a port reserved for that (called message submission) 
-- port 587.  Many of my customers have been using it (including 
myself for when I travel and use various dialups or other unfamiliar 
networks).


yeah, i don't doubt it. however, the concept of ports is difficult 
enough to understand for most average end-users. by using 2525, it 
makes it easier mnemonically for them to switch between the well-known 
port and the alternative. I suppose someday someone may experience a 
conflict if they try running MS V-Worlds which is the name for 2525, 
but so far, no problems. ;^)



Paul Theodoropoulos
http://www.anastrophe.com

We run the same thing on port 24, which according to my /etc/services is 
for private mail systems which I guess an hosted email system being 
accessed from third party ISPs would qualify as.
2525 is a good idea though, since the mnemonic is pretty strong.

Cheers,
Nick


[vchkpw] Setting Qmailqueue value for virtual domains

2003-09-10 Thread Martin Horsley
Is there a way in which I can set the QMAILQUEUE value in tcp.smtp for 
mail sent to a virtual domain?

I'm setting up a qmail+vpopmail+spamassassin+virus check server, but are 
finding that the spam and virus checking is adding a large overhead to 
the time taken to process a message (5 seconds on PII 200 Dual).  One of 
my virtual domains will only ever be used for receiving mail destined 
for an in house mail client, and as such we don't care how much spam 
gets through to it.  There is therefore, no reason for 
spamassassin/antivirus to check mails destined for this domain.

I tried adding this to my tcp.smtp file:-
:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,QMAILQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue,TCPLOCALHOST=mydomain.com
but it didn't work.

Im pretty new to Qmail and vpopmail, so I'm still learning, but I've 
been trying to find a solution to this problem for a couple of weeks 
now, and the usual mailing list archives and google searches have not 
provided a solution

Many thanks

Martin.




Re: [vchkpw] Setting Qmailqueue value for virtual domains

2003-09-10 Thread Paul Theodoropoulos
i handle this by using a three stage transport - primary and secondary MX 
feed mail that is to be filtered on to a 
dedicated  spamassassin/viruschecker server via /var/qmail/smtproutes. 
Those domains that i don't want to filter i just push the mail directly to 
the vpopmail server, also via smtproutes.

you could get away with two stages - run a spam filtering smtpd on an 
alternate port on your vpopmail server - i use port 26 - then you can use 
smtproutes on the primary/secondary MX to feed to the different ports, eg:

iwantspam.com:myvpopmailserver.com:25
idontwantspam.com:myvpopmailserver.com:26


At 07:19 AM 9/10/2003, Martin Horsley wrote:
Is there a way in which I can set the QMAILQUEUE value in tcp.smtp for 
mail sent to a virtual domain?

I'm setting up a qmail+vpopmail+spamassassin+virus check server, but are 
finding that the spam and virus checking is adding a large overhead to the 
time taken to process a message (5 seconds on PII 200 Dual).  One of my 
virtual domains will only ever be used for receiving mail destined for an 
in house mail client, and as such we don't care how much spam gets through 
to it.  There is therefore, no reason for spamassassin/antivirus to check 
mails destined for this domain.

I tried adding this to my tcp.smtp file:-
:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,QMAILQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue,TCPLOCALHOST=mydomain.com
but it didn't work.

Im pretty new to Qmail and vpopmail, so I'm still learning, but I've been 
trying to find a solution to this problem for a couple of weeks now, and 
the usual mailing list archives and google searches have not provided a 
solution

Many thanks

Martin.


Paul Theodoropoulos
http://www.anastrophe.com