[vchkpw] qmail-inject Error
Hello all, wenn I want to send an email by sqwebmail, I got the following error-message: qmail-inject: fatal: unable to exec qq (#4.3.0) How can I govern that? Oliver Etzel flatrate serverhousing www.flathousing.com
Re: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:01:52 +0200 GoodnGo.de \(R\) Zentrale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wenn I want to send an email by sqwebmail, I got the following error-message: qmail-inject: fatal: unable to exec qq (#4.3.0) Are you using qmail-scanner or any other program with a patched qmail (QMAILQUEUE patch)? Make sure the program you set with ENV-variable 'QMAILQUEUE' is executable and does not crash. -- Regards Peter
Re: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error
Hello Peter, hello all, . ? Make sure the program you set with ENV-variable 'QMAILQUEUE' is executable and does not crash. My Question: How and where can I set the ENV variable? Regs. Oliver Etzel flatrate serverhousing www.flathousing.com
Re: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error
At 13:37 18/09/2002 +0200, Oliver Etzel - GoodnGo.COM \(R\) wrote: It appears you have very little idea of how a unix-like OS works. I suggest you start educating yourself regarding the OS you are using. Once you have a clue about what exactly this ENV variable is, then learn about how Qmail works at http://cr.yp.to and www.lifewithqmail.org .. even better, join the Qmail mailing list at cr.yp.to and ask there. My final comment is directed at those who insist: 1. We teach the them basics of unix systems administration (or even the basic syntax). 2. We read the documentation or list archives for them. 3. We solve their problems as they are unwilling to make the attempt. 4. Or who fail to repeatedly provide a minimum explaination of what the problem is, or do so poorly. A lot of people spend their precious time assisting others on this list, and usually do so without resorting to arrogant and rude tactics. Just because we are *nice* enough to assist does not give anyone carte blanche approval to use us. If you can't figure out the basics, consider hiring one of the many talented consultants on this list to solve your problems for you -- Your customers will be satisfied and you'll probably find your job is more secure because of it. /rant -- Steve Hello Peter, hello all, . ? Make sure the program you set with ENV-variable 'QMAILQUEUE' is executable and does not crash. My Question: How and where can I set the ENV variable? Regs. Oliver Etzel flatrate serverhousing www.flathousing.com
[vchkpw] Signal-to-Noise Ratio (Was: Re: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error)
From: Steve Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:15:02 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error At 13:37 18/09/2002 +0200, Oliver Etzel - GoodnGo.COM \(R\) wrote: It appears you have very little idea of how a unix-like OS works. I suggest you start educating yourself regarding the OS you are using. Once you have a clue about what exactly this ENV variable is, then learn about how Qmail works at http://cr.yp.to and www.lifewithqmail.org .. even better, join the Qmail mailing list at cr.yp.to and ask there. My final comment is directed at those who insist: 1. We teach the them basics of unix systems administration (or even the basic syntax). 2. We read the documentation or list archives for them. 3. We solve their problems as they are unwilling to make the attempt. 4. Or who fail to repeatedly provide a minimum explaination of what the problem is, or do so poorly. A lot of people spend their precious time assisting others on this list, and usually do so without resorting to arrogant and rude tactics. Just because we are *nice* enough to assist does not give anyone carte blanche approval to use us. If you can't figure out the basics, consider hiring one of the many talented consultants on this list to solve your problems for you -- Your customers will be satisfied and you'll probably find your job is more secure because of it. /rant -- Steve I'm going to have to with Steve here. I've been on this list for a while and the signal-to-noise ratio is horrendous. Is there a charter for this list? Without a charter it is hard to say what does and doesn't belong on the list. I would fathom that all the items Steve mentioned above do not belong on the list. Too bad the majority of the mail generated by the list falls into those categories. Tim
Re: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error
This would all be fine and dandy - if your construct were correct. I draw your attention to the word insist before your bullet points below. Bullet points is perhaps ironically apropos - because the fact is, nobody has a gun to your head. Nobody can compel someone else to educate them/read documentation for them/etc via email to a mailing list. It's your choice to respond. I understand where you are coming from with your rant, but I also believe we should err on the side of compassion and humanity when dealing with ignorance (ignorance in the specific form, 'lack of knowledge on the subject at hand'.) Asking questions is the first step towards learning. Yes, it is frustrating when the same questions get asked over and over by different people. I've lost count of the times on the sqwebmail list that someone has asked a short or long question about something, and Mister Sam replies simply See INSTALL. In my early days learning UNIX systems administration (nine years ago), I posted to comp.unix.solaris a few times. My questions were not newbie questions, but compared with what some of the seasoned experts there knew, the questions were trivial. However, I didn't get flamed for asking a question that in relative terms to their expertise was a newbie question. For that I'm thankful. And i've reciprocated many, many times with others, by sharing my knowledge without judgement. True - if someone comes to me with the same question three separate times, I'll probably become reticent. bottom line: answer or don't answer or redirect the questioner to the appropriate place. But ultimately, it's all your choice. Nobody is forcing you or anyone else to reply to this person's question. See THE GOLDEN RULE. and that's _my_ rant for the day! ;^) At 05:15 AM 9/18/2002, Steve Fulton wrote: At 13:37 18/09/2002 +0200, Oliver Etzel - GoodnGo.COM \(R\) wrote: It appears you have very little idea of how a unix-like OS works. I suggest you start educating yourself regarding the OS you are using. Once you have a clue about what exactly this ENV variable is, then learn about how Qmail works at http://cr.yp.to and www.lifewithqmail.org .. even better, join the Qmail mailing list at cr.yp.to and ask there. My final comment is directed at those who insist: 1. We teach the them basics of unix systems administration (or even the basic syntax). 2. We read the documentation or list archives for them. 3. We solve their problems as they are unwilling to make the attempt. 4. Or who fail to repeatedly provide a minimum explaination of what the problem is, or do so poorly. A lot of people spend their precious time assisting others on this list, and usually do so without resorting to arrogant and rude tactics. Just because we are *nice* enough to assist does not give anyone carte blanche approval to use us. If you can't figure out the basics, consider hiring one of the many talented consultants on this list to solve your problems for you -- Your customers will be satisfied and you'll probably find your job is more secure because of it. /rant -- Steve Hello Peter, hello all, . ? Make sure the program you set with ENV-variable 'QMAILQUEUE' is executable and does not crash. My Question: How and where can I set the ENV variable? Regs. Oliver Etzel flatrate serverhousing www.flathousing.com Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com Help Cure Alzheimer's with your PC's spare time: http://folding.stanford.edu
RE: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error
I agree on both points. I feel that these mailing lists should be for the odd problems that can't be solved by doing a simple search on google, or reading through the archives. But not everyone takes things that far. As for the rest of it.. It bothers me when I see so much ignorance out there about these things, or lack of drive to learn. But the fact that somebody posts to the list shows that they have some drive to figure these things out. I would reccomend to anybody that posts on the list to first search for your error on your favorite search engine and check the vpopmail archives BEFORE posting to the list. Chances are, somebody else already had your problem and learned how to fix it. Those of us that have been on this list for a while get sick of hearing the same cries over and over for the same things that have been answered probably hundreds of times. When I was a novice at this stuff, I worked at a relativley large ISP. Everyone in my department feared going into the engineer room because we knew they'd chew our heads off and call us an idiot after solving our problem. I think it's great that people feel comfortable enough to post to this list without the fear of being flamed. You've gotta learn somehow, and I'll agree that it's usually much easier to learn interactivley from a person than reading a book. But please, I urge everyone who ever posts to any type of list to research your questions before posting. Usually you can find your answers quicker than you could waiting around for an email. And if you write the list, don't tell us how urgent you problem is and how we HAVE to fix it for you. The people that subscribe to these postings do it free of charge and out of the kindness in their own hearts. Don't insult us by telling us to do your job ;), if you want support that quickly then pay for it. -Original Message- From: Paul Theodoropoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error This would all be fine and dandy - if your construct were correct. I draw your attention to the word insist before your bullet points below. Bullet points is perhaps ironically apropos - because the fact is, nobody has a gun to your head. Nobody can compel someone else to educate them/read documentation for them/etc via email to a mailing list. It's your choice to respond. I understand where you are coming from with your rant, but I also believe we should err on the side of compassion and humanity when dealing with ignorance (ignorance in the specific form, 'lack of knowledge on the subject at hand'.) Asking questions is the first step towards learning. Yes, it is frustrating when the same questions get asked over and over by different people. I've lost count of the times on the sqwebmail list that someone has asked a short or long question about something, and Mister Sam replies simply See INSTALL. In my early days learning UNIX systems administration (nine years ago), I posted to comp.unix.solaris a few times. My questions were not newbie questions, but compared with what some of the seasoned experts there knew, the questions were trivial. However, I didn't get flamed for asking a question that in relative terms to their expertise was a newbie question. For that I'm thankful. And i've reciprocated many, many times with others, by sharing my knowledge without judgement. True - if someone comes to me with the same question three separate times, I'll probably become reticent. bottom line: answer or don't answer or redirect the questioner to the appropriate place. But ultimately, it's all your choice. Nobody is forcing you or anyone else to reply to this person's question. See THE GOLDEN RULE. and that's _my_ rant for the day! ;^) At 05:15 AM 9/18/2002, Steve Fulton wrote: At 13:37 18/09/2002 +0200, Oliver Etzel - GoodnGo.COM \(R\) wrote: It appears you have very little idea of how a unix-like OS works. I suggest you start educating yourself regarding the OS you are using. Once you have a clue about what exactly this ENV variable is, then learn about how Qmail works at http://cr.yp.to and www.lifewithqmail.org .. even better, join the Qmail mailing list at cr.yp.to and ask there. My final comment is directed at those who insist: 1. We teach the them basics of unix systems administration (or even the basic syntax). 2. We read the documentation or list archives for them. 3. We solve their problems as they are unwilling to make the attempt. 4. Or who fail to repeatedly provide a minimum explaination of what the problem is, or do so poorly. A lot of people spend their precious time assisting others on this list, and usually do so without resorting to arrogant and rude tactics. Just because we are *nice* enough to assist does not give anyone carte blanche approval to use us. If you can't figure out the basics, consider hiring one of the many talented consultants on this list
RE: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error
Paul, Please refrain from top posting. It makes quoting your email in context very difficult when replying. It is also very difficult to follow which points your email responded to specifically. -Original Message- From: Paul Theodoropoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error This would all be fine and dandy - if your construct were correct. I draw your attention to the word insist before your bullet points below. Bullet points is perhaps ironically apropos - because the fact is, nobody has a gun to your head. Nobody can compel someone else to educate them/read documentation for them/etc via email to a mailing list. It's your choice to respond. Yet people write email after email to technical mailing lists asking for just that type of handholding. There's a reason why people are constantly told to RTFM, it's because in so many cases it is dreadfully obvious that they haven't. I understand where you are coming from with your rant, but I also believe we should err on the side of compassion and humanity when dealing with ignorance (ignorance in the specific form, 'lack of knowledge on the subject at hand'.) Asking questions is the first step towards learning. I disagree. It is incumbent upon the person asking for help on a free mailing list to actually show that they've gone to some length to find an answer on their own. Not making an effort before asking for help abuses both the time and bandwidth of those who do make an effort as well as those who offer support. To boot, there are a number of applications, especially internet connected, that if a person cannot show the slightest inclination to help themselves, they should not be running in the first place. Yes, it is frustrating when the same questions get asked over and over by different people. I've lost count of the times on the sqwebmail list that someone has asked a short or long question about something, and Mister Sam replies simply See INSTALL. Possibly because if they had read the INSTALL before installing as they were supposed to do, the answer would have been obvious. Since you bring up the Sqwebmail list, of which I'm also a member, how many times have you seen in the last month alone people asking about the Invalid User ID or Password issue that relates to having vpopmail installed? It gets asked over and over because people refuse to do some research beforehand. Spoonfeeding people is not helping the situation. In my early days learning UNIX systems administration (nine years ago), I posted to comp.unix.solaris a few times. My questions were not newbie questions, but compared with what some of the seasoned experts there knew, the questions were trivial. However, I didn't get flamed for asking a question that in relative terms to their expertise was a newbie question. For that I'm thankful. And i've reciprocated many, many times with others, by sharing my knowledge without judgement. True - if someone comes to me with the same question three separate times, I'll probably become reticent. Newbies are by definition ignorant. That's why they are newbies. It is possible to ask a newbie question that won't be universally flamed by the gurus. But in order to do that, one must show that they made some kind of effort to understand what's going on. bottom line: answer or don't answer or redirect the questioner to the appropriate place. But ultimately, it's all your choice. Nobody is forcing you or anyone else to reply to this person's question. See THE GOLDEN RULE. and that's _my_ rant for the day! ;^) Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com Help Cure Alzheimer's with your PC's spare time: http://folding.stanford.edu Robert Kropiewnicki Network Administrator StructuredWeb Inc. Phone: 201-325-3146 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Clayton Weise wrote: I agree on both points. I feel that these mailing lists should be for the odd problems that can't be solved by doing a simple search on google, or reading through the archives. But not everyone takes things that far. There are also so many questions that come up so often that a FAQ is sorely needed. Then the flaming would be easier. Reply to a 6 page email with a pointer to the FAQ. :) You also have to remember that even someone who knows what they are doing for the most part can get horribly lost if they jump in and try to learn qmail/vpopmail/courier-imap/sqwebmail all at the same time... Charles As for the rest of it.. It bothers me when I see so much ignorance out there about these things, or lack of drive to learn. But the fact that somebody posts to the list shows that they have some drive to figure these things out. I would reccomend to anybody that posts on the list to first search for your error on your favorite search engine and check the vpopmail archives BEFORE posting to the list. Chances are, somebody else already had your problem and learned how to fix it. Those of us that have been on this list for a while get sick of hearing the same cries over and over for the same things that have been answered probably hundreds of times. When I was a novice at this stuff, I worked at a relativley large ISP. Everyone in my department feared going into the engineer room because we knew they'd chew our heads off and call us an idiot after solving our problem. I think it's great that people feel comfortable enough to post to this list without the fear of being flamed. You've gotta learn somehow, and I'll agree that it's usually much easier to learn interactivley from a person than reading a book. But please, I urge everyone who ever posts to any type of list to research your questions before posting. Usually you can find your answers quicker than you could waiting around for an email. And if you write the list, don't tell us how urgent you problem is and how we HAVE to fix it for you. The people that subscribe to these postings do it free of charge and out of the kindness in their own hearts. Don't insult us by telling us to do your job ;), if you want support that quickly then pay for it. -Original Message- From: Paul Theodoropoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error This would all be fine and dandy - if your construct were correct. I draw your attention to the word insist before your bullet points below. Bullet points is perhaps ironically apropos - because the fact is, nobody has a gun to your head. Nobody can compel someone else to educate them/read documentation for them/etc via email to a mailing list. It's your choice to respond. I understand where you are coming from with your rant, but I also believe we should err on the side of compassion and humanity when dealing with ignorance (ignorance in the specific form, 'lack of knowledge on the subject at hand'.) Asking questions is the first step towards learning. Yes, it is frustrating when the same questions get asked over and over by different people. I've lost count of the times on the sqwebmail list that someone has asked a short or long question about something, and Mister Sam replies simply See INSTALL. In my early days learning UNIX systems administration (nine years ago), I posted to comp.unix.solaris a few times. My questions were not newbie questions, but compared with what some of the seasoned experts there knew, the questions were trivial. However, I didn't get flamed for asking a question that in relative terms to their expertise was a newbie question. For that I'm thankful. And i've reciprocated many, many times with others, by sharing my knowledge without judgement. True - if someone comes to me with the same question three separate times, I'll probably become reticent. bottom line: answer or don't answer or redirect the questioner to the appropriate place. But ultimately, it's all your choice. Nobody is forcing you or anyone else to reply to this person's question. See THE GOLDEN RULE. and that's _my_ rant for the day! ;^) At 05:15 AM 9/18/2002, Steve Fulton wrote: At 13:37 18/09/2002 +0200, Oliver Etzel - GoodnGo.COM \(R\) wrote: It appears you have very little idea of how a unix-like OS works. I suggest you start educating yourself regarding the OS you are using. Once you have a clue about what exactly this ENV variable is, then learn about how Qmail works at http://cr.yp.to and www.lifewithqmail.org .. even better, join the Qmail mailing list at cr.yp.to and ask there. My final comment is directed at those who insist: 1. We teach the them basics of unix systems administration (or even the basic syntax). 2. We read the documentation or list archives for them. 3. We
RE: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error [T2002091803GK] (fwd)
Hi, I know someone brought this up about a month or so ago, but it appears [EMAIL PROTECTED] is still subscribed to this mailing list. Could the list maintainer please manually remove that address? I don't see a list-owner address in the headers of the vchkpw list, so I'm posting this hoping the owner reads the list... C -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:26:54 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error [T2002091803GK] Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. We are sorry for any inconvenience it has caused you. Because we receive a large number of complaints each day at [EMAIL PROTECTED], regretfully, a personalized response to each message is not possible. Please be assured that Verizon investigates each reported occurrence of unsolicited e-mail or spamming. We maintain a zero-tolerance policy in regard to spamming and will take the appropriate action as permitted by Verizon's Acceptable Use Policy. To view our policy, please refer to one of the two following links: Former Bell Atlantic users: http://www.bellatlantic.net/help/faqs/#faqpolicies Former GTE users: http://www.gte.net/hotlinks/policies/agreement.html To better understand the problems with unsolicited e-mail, we have provided information about filtering Spam with your e-mail software, answers to several frequently asked questions and links to some useful online information about Spam at the following link: http://www.gte.net/announcements/spam.html You may also link directly to our page about unsolicited e-mail: http://www.gte.net/contact/spam.html If you are reporting an issue of hacking or other security issues not related to e-mail abuse, please submit your report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for investigation. Sincerely, Verizon Internet Services [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Sprickman Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 1:21 PM To: Clayton Weise Cc: Paul Theodoropoulos; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Clayton Weise wrote: I agree on both points. I feel that these mailing lists should be for the odd problems that can't be solved by doing a simple search on google, or reading through the archives. But not everyone takes things that far. There are also so many questions that come up so often that a FAQ is sorely needed. Then the flaming would be easier. Reply to a 6 page email with a pointer to the FAQ. :) There is an FAQ. Granted, it could probably use and update as well as being setup so that clicking on the question takes you to the answer, but it's still better than nothing. It can be found at: http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail/FAQ You also have to remember that even someone who knows what they are doing for the most part can get horribly lost if they jump in and try to learn qmail/vpopmail/courier-imap/sqwebmail all at the same time... Charles As one who just recently (maybe half a year ago) jumped in and began the process of learning all of these applications, I agree. The key is research, research, research. Putting together a publicly accessible email server (ie. not purely for internal use and without an internet connection) is not a task that is to be taken lightly. There are so many good references available to help you along, most notable The qmail Handbook by Dave Sill, that asking for help right from the start without having done the most basic of research is rightfully vilified. Regards, Robert Kropiewnicki Network Administrator StructuredWeb Inc. Phone: 201-325-3146 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error [T2002091803GK] (fwd)
We've already deleted the email address three times. On Wednesday 18 September 2002 12:30 pm, Charles Sprickman wrote: Hi, I know someone brought this up about a month or so ago, but it appears [EMAIL PROTECTED] is still subscribed to this mailing list. Could the list maintainer please manually remove that address? I don't see a list-owner address in the headers of the vchkpw list, so I'm posting this hoping the owner reads the list... C -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:26:54 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [vchkpw] qmail-inject Error [T2002091803GK] Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. We are sorry for any inconvenience it has caused you. Because we receive a large number of complaints each day at [EMAIL PROTECTED], regretfully, a personalized response to each message is not possible. Please be assured that Verizon investigates each reported occurrence of unsolicited e-mail or spamming. We maintain a zero-tolerance policy in regard to spamming and will take the appropriate action as permitted by Verizon's Acceptable Use Policy. To view our policy, please refer to one of the two following links: Former Bell Atlantic users: http://www.bellatlantic.net/help/faqs/#faqpolicies Former GTE users: http://www.gte.net/hotlinks/policies/agreement.html To better understand the problems with unsolicited e-mail, we have provided information about filtering Spam with your e-mail software, answers to several frequently asked questions and links to some useful online information about Spam at the following link: http://www.gte.net/announcements/spam.html You may also link directly to our page about unsolicited e-mail: http://www.gte.net/contact/spam.html If you are reporting an issue of hacking or other security issues not related to e-mail abuse, please submit your report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for investigation. Sincerely, Verizon Internet Services [EMAIL PROTECTED]
