RE: [vchkpw] Re: !!! CHECK SENDER !!![vchkpw] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Rrdirection problem
Thank I suppose the '-' cause problem but i can t change :( Cordialement -- Stephane Salettes ABAC Informatique 1 Bis Ave Pech Loubat ZI La Coupe 11100 Narbonne Tél: 33 (0)4 68 41 73 00 FAX : 33 (0)4 6841 73 02 GSM: 33 (0)6 85 36 67 28 http://www.abac-info.com -Message d'origine- De : Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Envoyé : jeudi 24 avril 2014 19:46 À : vchkpw@inter7.com Objet : [vchkpw] Re: !!! CHECK SENDER !!![vchkpw] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Rrdirection problem That could very well be, Tom. Stéphane, I believe the odd behavior is due to qmail's 'extension' feature, which comes into play with accounts that contain a '-', and the portion before the dash matches another account or forward. You could avoid this 'collision' (or 'conflict' or 'commonality') by choosing different address names, such as 'ssiad_secretariat@' or 'ssiad.secretariat@' or 'secretariat-ssiad@' (providing there is no account or forward called 'secretariat@' in this last case). Email extensions are a handy feature for some users, but admins need to be careful when using a '-' in account names. -- -Eric 'shubes' On 04/24/2014 09:43 AM, Tom Collins wrote: This sounds like a possible bug (or perhaps a configuration issue) in vdelivermail. With MySQL aliases, vdelivermail handles delivery. It's finding the ssiad forward first and delivering the message there (since -secretariat is an extension to that mailbox). By deleting the alias record stored in MySQL and replacing it with a dot-qmail file (.qmail-ssiad), you're allowing Qmail to handle its delivery before the message is handed off to vdelivermail. It's been a long time since I've worked with the vpopmail source code, but I imagine you'll find logic in vdelivermail that has it checking for aliases before mailboxes, and it's iterating through all possible base/extension pairs (foo-bar-baz, then foo-bar, then foo). -Tom On Apr 24, 2014, at 12:50 AM, Stéphane SALETTES wrote: Hi, You don't understand my problem, maybe because my english is bad :( ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr is a standalone account no foward spa...@piemont.fr is a standalone account no foward and ss...@piemont.fr is just a foward to spa...@piemont.fr but if i send a message to ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr nothing in is mailbox but the message is in the box of spa...@piemont.fr the work arraound that i find is delete the foward on qmailadmin (mysql) (ss...@piemont.fr - spa...@piemont.fr) and create a file .qmail-ssiad spa...@piemont.fr Hope you understand me this time sorry :) Thank Cordialement -- Stephane Salettes ABAC Informatique 1 Bis Ave Pech Loubat ZI La Coupe 11100 Narbonne Tél: 33 (0)4 68 41 73 00 FAX : 33 (0)4 6841 73 02 GSM: 33 (0)6 85 36 67 28 http://www.abac-info.com -Message d'origine- De : xaf [mailto:x...@abaxe.net] Envoyé : samedi 19 avril 2014 03:42 À : vchkpw@inter7.com Objet : Re: [vchkpw] Re: !!! CHECK SENDER !!![vchkpw] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Rrdirection problem |-- Eric Shubert, le 18/04/2014 23:38, a dit : 3) what you desire to happen When i send a message to ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr i want that the message go to the ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr mail box and foward to spa...@piemont.fr And when i send a massage to ss...@piemont.fr i want a simple foward to spa...@piemont.fr I think if you modify the ssiad-secretariat@ account to also forward a copy to spasad@, that would achieve your desired behavior. I.e., in qmailadmin, under the Routing section, select Forward To, and check the Save a Copy checkbox. it's a part of a solution this will create a .qmail file in the user directory but vdelivermail won't read it because of the extension addresses mechanism Stéphane ssiad-secretariat@ is an alias for user ssiad@ it's quite a strange conf to give a forward to the user and the account to the alias mail delivery in a glance qmail-send - qmail-lspawn - qmail-local - vdelivermail - vuser/valias we must shorten delivery before vdelivermail handle it because of ssiad forward, vdelivermail will ignore ssiad-secretariat account IMHO a 32 bit guest consumes less memory than a 64 bit one. Unless you need to address more than 4GB of RAM you really don't get any benefit from a 64bit VM. Proxmox dev's seem to agree with me. http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/FAQ Also, the disks should be of type virtio and not IDE. Performance under IDE sucks big time. lspawn read users/cdb, we can shorten the delivery here, answer 2 local read .qmail-files in domain directory, we can shorten too here, answer 1 answer 1, according vpopmail is in /home/vpopmail create a file .qmail-ssiad-secretariat in /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr 0600 vpopmail:vchkpw write in spa...@piemont.fr /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat/Maildir/ if you want to change the headers
RE: [vchkpw] Re: !!! CHECK SENDER !!![vchkpw] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Rrdirection problem
Hi, You don't understand my problem, maybe because my english is bad :( ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr is a standalone account no foward spa...@piemont.fr is a standalone account no foward and ss...@piemont.fr is just a foward to spa...@piemont.fr but if i send a message to ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr nothing in is mailbox but the message is in the box of spa...@piemont.fr the work arraound that i find is delete the foward on qmailadmin (mysql) (ss...@piemont.fr - spa...@piemont.fr) and create a file .qmail-ssiad spa...@piemont.fr Hope you understand me this time sorry :) Thank Cordialement -- Stephane Salettes ABAC Informatique 1 Bis Ave Pech Loubat ZI La Coupe 11100 Narbonne Tél: 33 (0)4 68 41 73 00 FAX : 33 (0)4 6841 73 02 GSM: 33 (0)6 85 36 67 28 http://www.abac-info.com -Message d'origine- De : xaf [mailto:x...@abaxe.net] Envoyé : samedi 19 avril 2014 03:42 À : vchkpw@inter7.com Objet : Re: [vchkpw] Re: !!! CHECK SENDER !!![vchkpw] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Rrdirection problem |-- Eric Shubert, le 18/04/2014 23:38, a dit : 3) what you desire to happen When i send a message to ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr i want that the message go to the ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr mail box and foward to spa...@piemont.fr And when i send a massage to ss...@piemont.fr i want a simple foward to spa...@piemont.fr I think if you modify the ssiad-secretariat@ account to also forward a copy to spasad@, that would achieve your desired behavior. I.e., in qmailadmin, under the Routing section, select Forward To, and check the Save a Copy checkbox. it's a part of a solution this will create a .qmail file in the user directory but vdelivermail won't read it because of the extension addresses mechanism Stéphane ssiad-secretariat@ is an alias for user ssiad@ it's quite a strange conf to give a forward to the user and the account to the alias mail delivery in a glance qmail-send - qmail-lspawn - qmail-local - vdelivermail - vuser/valias we must shorten delivery before vdelivermail handle it because of ssiad forward, vdelivermail will ignore ssiad-secretariat account lspawn read users/cdb, we can shorten the delivery here, answer 2 local read .qmail-files in domain directory, we can shorten too here, answer 1 answer 1, according vpopmail is in /home/vpopmail create a file .qmail-ssiad-secretariat in /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr 0600 vpopmail:vchkpw write in spa...@piemont.fr /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat/Maildir/ if you want to change the headers for spasad or /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/spasad/Maildir/ /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat/Maildir/ for straight copy answer 2 according to Eric explanation we have a .qmail in /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat/ containing spa...@piemont.fr /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat/Maildir/ we need local to read this .qmail file so lspawn have to point to the correct directory before local handle delivery edit /var/qmail/users/assign add the line (check if 89:89 are uid gid of vpopmail:vchkpw) =piemont.fr-ssiad-secretariat:piemont.fr:89:89:/home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat::: before the piemont.fr virtual domain line and run /var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu to rebuild /var/qmail/users/cdb answer 3 a forward account instead of a simple forward delete ssiad forward create ssiad account apply Eric solution without saving a copy ssiad will be master for ssiad-everything but secretariat xaf !DSPAM:5358c24734262119615012!
Re: [vchkpw] Re: !!! CHECK SENDER !!![vchkpw] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Rrdirection problem
This sounds like a possible bug (or perhaps a configuration issue) in vdelivermail. With MySQL aliases, vdelivermail handles delivery. It's finding the ssiad forward first and delivering the message there (since -secretariat is an extension to that mailbox). By deleting the alias record stored in MySQL and replacing it with a dot-qmail file (.qmail-ssiad), you're allowing Qmail to handle its delivery before the message is handed off to vdelivermail. It's been a long time since I've worked with the vpopmail source code, but I imagine you'll find logic in vdelivermail that has it checking for aliases before mailboxes, and it's iterating through all possible base/extension pairs (foo-bar-baz, then foo-bar, then foo). -Tom On Apr 24, 2014, at 12:50 AM, Stéphane SALETTES wrote: Hi, You don't understand my problem, maybe because my english is bad :( ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr is a standalone account no foward spa...@piemont.fr is a standalone account no foward and ss...@piemont.fr is just a foward to spa...@piemont.fr but if i send a message to ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr nothing in is mailbox but the message is in the box of spa...@piemont.fr the work arraound that i find is delete the foward on qmailadmin (mysql) (ss...@piemont.fr - spa...@piemont.fr) and create a file .qmail-ssiad spa...@piemont.fr Hope you understand me this time sorry :) Thank Cordialement -- Stephane Salettes ABAC Informatique 1 Bis Ave Pech Loubat ZI La Coupe 11100 Narbonne Tél: 33 (0)4 68 41 73 00 FAX : 33 (0)4 6841 73 02 GSM: 33 (0)6 85 36 67 28 http://www.abac-info.com -Message d'origine- De : xaf [mailto:x...@abaxe.net] Envoyé : samedi 19 avril 2014 03:42 À : vchkpw@inter7.com Objet : Re: [vchkpw] Re: !!! CHECK SENDER !!![vchkpw] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Rrdirection problem |-- Eric Shubert, le 18/04/2014 23:38, a dit : 3) what you desire to happen When i send a message to ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr i want that the message go to the ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr mail box and foward to spa...@piemont.fr And when i send a massage to ss...@piemont.fr i want a simple foward to spa...@piemont.fr I think if you modify the ssiad-secretariat@ account to also forward a copy to spasad@, that would achieve your desired behavior. I.e., in qmailadmin, under the Routing section, select Forward To, and check the Save a Copy checkbox. it's a part of a solution this will create a .qmail file in the user directory but vdelivermail won't read it because of the extension addresses mechanism Stéphane ssiad-secretariat@ is an alias for user ssiad@ it's quite a strange conf to give a forward to the user and the account to the alias mail delivery in a glance qmail-send - qmail-lspawn - qmail-local - vdelivermail - vuser/valias we must shorten delivery before vdelivermail handle it because of ssiad forward, vdelivermail will ignore ssiad-secretariat account lspawn read users/cdb, we can shorten the delivery here, answer 2 local read .qmail-files in domain directory, we can shorten too here, answer 1 answer 1, according vpopmail is in /home/vpopmail create a file .qmail-ssiad-secretariat in /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr 0600 vpopmail:vchkpw write in spa...@piemont.fr /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat/Maildir/ if you want to change the headers for spasad or /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/spasad/Maildir/ /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat/Maildir/ for straight copy answer 2 according to Eric explanation we have a .qmail in /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat/ containing spa...@piemont.fr /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat/Maildir/ we need local to read this .qmail file so lspawn have to point to the correct directory before local handle delivery edit /var/qmail/users/assign add the line (check if 89:89 are uid gid of vpopmail:vchkpw) =piemont.fr-ssiad-secretariat:piemont.fr:89:89:/home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat::: before the piemont.fr virtual domain line and run /var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu to rebuild /var/qmail/users/cdb answer 3 a forward account instead of a simple forward delete ssiad forward create ssiad account apply Eric solution without saving a copy ssiad will be master for ssiad-everything but secretariat xaf !DSPAM:53593f3d34268127549349!
Re: [vchkpw] Re: !!! CHECK SENDER !!![vchkpw] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Rrdirection problem
Stéphane, try in this way: * delete the forward ss...@piemont.fr * create one normal account ss...@piemont.fr * insert within this account a forward to spa...@piemont.fr In this way it should work. Tonino Il 24/04/2014 19:45, Eric Shubert ha scritto: That could very well be, Tom. Stéphane, I believe the odd behavior is due to qmail's 'extension' feature, which comes into play with accounts that contain a '-', and the portion before the dash matches another account or forward. You could avoid this 'collision' (or 'conflict' or 'commonality') by choosing different address names, such as 'ssiad_secretariat@' or 'ssiad.secretariat@' or 'secretariat-ssiad@' (providing there is no account or forward called 'secretariat@' in this last case). Email extensions are a handy feature for some users, but admins need to be careful when using a '-' in account names. -- Inter@zioniInterazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it to...@interazioni.it !DSPAM:5359502434261244028932!
Re: [vchkpw] Re: !!! CHECK SENDER !!![vchkpw] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Rrdirection problem
|-- Eric Shubert, le 18/04/2014 23:38, a dit : 3) what you desire to happen When i send a message to ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr i want that the message go to the ssiad-secretar...@piemont.fr mail box and foward to spa...@piemont.fr And when i send a massage to ss...@piemont.fr i want a simple foward to spa...@piemont.fr I think if you modify the ssiad-secretariat@ account to also forward a copy to spasad@, that would achieve your desired behavior. I.e., in qmailadmin, under the Routing section, select Forward To, and check the Save a Copy checkbox. it's a part of a solution this will create a .qmail file in the user directory but vdelivermail won't read it because of the extension addresses mechanism Stéphane ssiad-secretariat@ is an alias for user ssiad@ it's quite a strange conf to give a forward to the user and the account to the alias mail delivery in a glance qmail-send - qmail-lspawn - qmail-local - vdelivermail - vuser/valias we must shorten delivery before vdelivermail handle it because of ssiad forward, vdelivermail will ignore ssiad-secretariat account lspawn read users/cdb, we can shorten the delivery here, answer 2 local read .qmail-files in domain directory, we can shorten too here, answer 1 answer 1, according vpopmail is in /home/vpopmail create a file .qmail-ssiad-secretariat in /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr 0600 vpopmail:vchkpw write in spa...@piemont.fr /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat/Maildir/ if you want to change the headers for spasad or /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/spasad/Maildir/ /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat/Maildir/ for straight copy answer 2 according to Eric explanation we have a .qmail in /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat/ containing spa...@piemont.fr /home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat/Maildir/ we need local to read this .qmail file so lspawn have to point to the correct directory before local handle delivery edit /var/qmail/users/assign add the line (check if 89:89 are uid gid of vpopmail:vchkpw) =piemont.fr-ssiad-secretariat:piemont.fr:89:89:/home/vpopmail/domains/piemont.fr/ssiad-secretariat::: before the piemont.fr virtual domain line and run /var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu to rebuild /var/qmail/users/cdb answer 3 a forward account instead of a simple forward delete ssiad forward create ssiad account apply Eric solution without saving a copy ssiad will be master for ssiad-everything but secretariat xaf !DSPAM:5351d45834261943715214!
