Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-16 Thread James Taylor
I'm not entirely sure how to rebuild qmail-smtpd to use the new 
libvpopmail for MySQL.  I'm imagining I have to recompile Qmail, but 
how do I single out qmail-smtpd to be the only thing to build, and how 
do I get it to recognize vpopmail with mysql support exactly? Thanks 
for your help!

On Jun 15, 2004, at 3:50 PM, Tom Collins wrote:
On Jun 15, 2004, at 2:41 PM, James Taylor wrote:
Looking though the other directories of domains that DO work, I'm 
noticing they have a file called vpasswd.  I've had trouble getting 
MySQL to completely work, I thought I had it before but now it's 
acting funky again with this issue.  I think what's happening is 
Vpopmail is using MySQL to store the information, but then it's not 
using MySQL to retrieve.
It sounds like you originally compiled vpopmail for CDB, then compiled 
qmail-smtpd with the chkusr patch, and then reconfigured/installed 
vpopmail for MySQL.

You need to rebuild qmail-smtpd so it links to the new libvpopmail 
that's built for MySQL instead of CDB.

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Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-16 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
Hello James,

Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 9:57:44 AM you wrote:

JT I'm not entirely sure how to rebuild qmail-smtpd to use the new 
JT libvpopmail for MySQL.  I'm imagining I have to recompile Qmail, but
JT how do I single out qmail-smtpd to be the only thing to build, and how
JT do I get it to recognize vpopmail with mysql support exactly? Thanks
JT for your help!

Bear with me as I'm new to qmail myself but it seems that it's not
getting resolved...

I really don't see why you would have to recompile qmail, and especially
qmail-smtpd. qmail-smtp uses an external password checker like vchkpw.
qmail-send bounces the message if it can't find a match.

Why don't you post an unedited version of your logfile and your run
script. What patches have you applied to qmail? Are you using vchkpw to
check the password? If it was working before, what have you installed
recently?

 You need to rebuild qmail-smtpd so it links to the new libvpopmail
 that's built for MySQL instead of CDB.

What does qmail-smtpd with libvpopmail?

-- 
Regards, Charles.



Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-16 Thread Rick Widmer

Charles M. Gerungan wrote:
I really don't see why you would have to recompile qmail, and especially
qmail-smtpd. qmail-smtp uses an external password checker like vchkpw.
qmail-send bounces the message if it can't find a match.
The vpopmail library is statically linked, so every time you recompile 
it you have to re-link everything that uses it.  Many configuration 
changes in vpopmail require you to recompile vpopmail... and everything 
that uses it.

If the patched qmail-smtpd uses the vpopmail library, it needs to be 
re-linked.  If you keep your source available that usually means  make; 
make install.  Many makefiles are smart enough not to wipe out your 
configuration settings, but always have a backup!

Re-compiling this way may be a bit of a hassle, but it allows vpopmail 
to be much more efficient in day to day operation.



Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-16 Thread Alastair Battrick
Hi James

I ask because I am having a problem with bounce-no-mailbox. Every domain
(about 6 of them) that had bounce-no-mailbox set, was bouncing everything
including messages to postmaster.

If you could change bounce-no-mailbox to
/home/vpopmail/domains/testdomain.com/postmaster
(ie set the domain to catch all mail to postmaster) and see if that fixes
(albeit temporarily) your problem, it most likely means that we are having
the same problem, and I would like to know why too :)

Cheers
Alastair



James Taylor said:
 | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

 .. which is think is what it's supposed to be set at, no?

 On Jun 15, 2004, at 2:46 PM, Alastair Battrick wrote:

 Hi James

 What is in the .qmail-default for the domain?

 Cheers
 Alastair

 James Taylor wrote:
 Hi everyone, running vpopmail 5.4 compiled with MySQL (Everything
 else via Bill's Qmail Toaster) and everything was working just fine
 until today when I tried to add a domain.  Existing domains seem to
 be working just fine, you can add/delete users fine, information is
 stored in MySQL and it all looks good.  Now though, when I go to add
 a new domain, just for instance say
 ./vadddomain testdomain.com testpw
 It appears to have added the directory - it creates the domain
 directory as well as the postmaster maildir, and adds the
 testdomain_com table to MySQL with the postmaster user.  It also adds
 the testdomain_com information to the dir_control table.  However, if
 I try to send mail to postmaster:
 telnet localhost 25
 helo
 mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 - chkusr)
 ./vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 name:   postmaster
 passwd: $1$YnGeWacE$YYLUcT0Gw.te3HGkRa9lD.
 clear passwd: testpw
 uid:0
 gid:0
 flags:  0
 gecos: Postmaster
 limits: No user limits set.
 dir:   /home/vpopmail/domains/testdomain.com/postmaster
 quota: NOQUOTA
 usage: NOQUOTA
 account created: Tue Jun 15 14:28:53 2004
 last auth: Never logged in
 Same information listed in the MySQL row.
 ./vadduser [EMAIL PROTECTED] testpw
 .. same results with that user as with postmaster, everything
 LOOKS good, but nothing works
 Looking though the other directories of domains that DO work, I'm
 noticing they have a file called vpasswd.  I've had trouble getting
 MySQL to completely work, I thought I had it before but now it's
 acting funky again with this issue.  I think what's happening is
 Vpopmail is using MySQL to store the information, but then it's not
 using MySQL to retrieve.  The weird thing about it though is that I
 can add users to other domains, make changes to existing domains, and
 it all takes just fine.  It makes the changes in the MySQL DB, and it
 READS those changes, it's just new domains aren't wanting to work
 anymore.  I tried doing ./vconvert -m -c to see if it was using CDB
 to store all the user info instead of mysql for some reason, but it
 still doesn't pick up the user information when trying to send them
 mail.  Gives the same as above.
 If anyone could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it,
 I've been pulling my hair out for the past couple hours now.





Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-16 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
Hello Rick,

Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 10:56:30 AM you wrote:

 I really don't see why you would have to recompile qmail, and especially
 qmail-smtpd. qmail-smtp uses an external password checker like vchkpw.
 qmail-send bounces the message if it can't find a match.

RW The vpopmail library is statically linked, so every time you recompile
RW it you have to re-link everything that uses it.  Many configuration 
RW changes in vpopmail require you to recompile vpopmail... and everything
RW that uses it.

But why would he have to recompile qmail? qmail's password checker is
external (it should use vchkpw in his case which is not part of qmail).
And okay, I did a grep on qmail's make file, and there's no vpopmail in
there.

What am I missing?

-- 
Regards, Charles.



Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-16 Thread Rick Widmer

Charles M. Gerungan wrote:
Hello Rick,
Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 10:56:30 AM you wrote:

I really don't see why you would have to recompile qmail, and especially
qmail-smtpd. qmail-smtp uses an external password checker like vchkpw.
qmail-send bounces the message if it can't find a match.

RW The vpopmail library is statically linked, so every time you recompile
RW it you have to re-link everything that uses it.  Many configuration 
RW changes in vpopmail require you to recompile vpopmail... and everything
RW that uses it.

But why would he have to recompile qmail? qmail's password checker is
external (it should use vchkpw in his case which is not part of qmail).
And okay, I did a grep on qmail's make file, and there's no vpopmail in
there.
What am I missing?
Stock qmail you don't have to recompile.  It executes vchkpw to validate 
users for pop and imap, and vdelivermail in .qmail-default to deliver 
mail.

The only thing I can think of where qmail-smtpd has anything to do with 
vpopmail is a patch that allows it to reject messages to invalid 
addresses before they are queued.  That patch calls functions in the 
vpopmail library, and must be recompiled when vpopmail changes.  For 
installs on a virgin machine you must compile qmail, compile vpopmail, 
then compile qmail again (at least qmail-smtpd) to apply the patch.



Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-16 Thread tonix (Antonio Nati)
At 16/06/2004 16/06/2004 +0200, you wrote:
Hello James,
Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 9:57:44 AM you wrote:
I really don't see why you would have to recompile qmail, and especially
qmail-smtpd. qmail-smtp uses an external password checker like vchkpw.
qmail-send bounces the message if it can't find a match.
Chkuser does use the vpopmail library, in order to check instantly for user 
existance. It does NOT use external checker, for performance reasons. Using 
an external checker would mean to run it each time for a different 
recipient (one run, one attach, etc.. for each recipient), much more slow 
and resources demanding.

I remember you're using Bill's Shupp megapatch, and Bill gives different 
versions of chkuser integration, depending if you're using cdb, mysql or 
other.

So, if you changed from cdb to MySQL, you must now adapt your Makefile (add 
mysql libraries and probably -lz) an recompile, or run again Bill's patch 
(chkuser.mysql) over a plain qmail installation and recompile.

Or, there is a new patch here around, using an external checker. If you 
don't have any performance issue, use the new patch.

Tonino

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Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-16 Thread Tom Collins
On Jun 16, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Charles M. Gerungan wrote:
I really don't see why you would have to recompile qmail, and 
especially
qmail-smtpd. qmail-smtp uses an external password checker like vchkpw.
qmail-send bounces the message if it can't find a match.
The start of the thread indicated that he was having trouble with the 
chkusr patch to qmail-smtpd -- it was only working for domains with a 
vpasswd file, even though he was now using the MySQL backend.

Based on his description, I indicated that qmail-smtpd (with chkusr) 
needed to be re-linked to the libvpopmail built with MySQL support.

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Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-16 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Wednesday 16 June 2004 05:11 am, Charles M. Gerungan wrote:
 What am I missing?

you're missing that he's using the chkuser patch.

-Jeremy

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Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-16 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
Hello Tom,

Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 4:52:45 PM you wrote:

TC The start of the thread indicated that he was having trouble with the
TC chkusr patch to qmail-smtpd -- it was only working for domains with a
TC vpasswd file, even though he was now using the MySQL backend.

As I only just became a member, I must have missed this. Ignore...

-- 
Regards, Charles.



Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-16 Thread James Taylor
Actually, strangely enough, this DID fix the problem so mail is at 
least working, but I'm going to have to try to figure out how to get 
everything else going.

On Jun 16, 2004, at 2:10 AM, Alastair Battrick wrote:
Hi James
I ask because I am having a problem with bounce-no-mailbox. Every 
domain
(about 6 of them) that had bounce-no-mailbox set, was bouncing 
everything
including messages to postmaster.

If you could change bounce-no-mailbox to
/home/vpopmail/domains/testdomain.com/postmaster
(ie set the domain to catch all mail to postmaster) and see if that 
fixes
(albeit temporarily) your problem, it most likely means that we are 
having
the same problem, and I would like to know why too :)

Cheers
Alastair

James Taylor said:
| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox
.. which is think is what it's supposed to be set at, no?
On Jun 15, 2004, at 2:46 PM, Alastair Battrick wrote:
Hi James
What is in the .qmail-default for the domain?
Cheers
Alastair
James Taylor wrote:
Hi everyone, running vpopmail 5.4 compiled with MySQL (Everything
else via Bill's Qmail Toaster) and everything was working just fine
until today when I tried to add a domain.  Existing domains seem to
be working just fine, you can add/delete users fine, information is
stored in MySQL and it all looks good.  Now though, when I go to add
a new domain, just for instance say
./vadddomain testdomain.com testpw
It appears to have added the directory - it creates the domain
directory as well as the postmaster maildir, and adds the
testdomain_com table to MySQL with the postmaster user.  It also 
adds
the testdomain_com information to the dir_control table.  However, 
if
I try to send mail to postmaster:
telnet localhost 25
helo
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 - chkusr)
./vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
name:   postmaster
passwd: $1$YnGeWacE$YYLUcT0Gw.te3HGkRa9lD.
clear passwd: testpw
uid:0
gid:0
flags:  0
gecos: Postmaster
limits: No user limits set.
dir:   /home/vpopmail/domains/testdomain.com/postmaster
quota: NOQUOTA
usage: NOQUOTA
account created: Tue Jun 15 14:28:53 2004
last auth: Never logged in
Same information listed in the MySQL row.
./vadduser [EMAIL PROTECTED] testpw
.. same results with that user as with postmaster, everything
LOOKS good, but nothing works
Looking though the other directories of domains that DO work, I'm
noticing they have a file called vpasswd.  I've had trouble getting
MySQL to completely work, I thought I had it before but now it's
acting funky again with this issue.  I think what's happening is
Vpopmail is using MySQL to store the information, but then it's not
using MySQL to retrieve.  The weird thing about it though is that I
can add users to other domains, make changes to existing domains, 
and
it all takes just fine.  It makes the changes in the MySQL DB, and 
it
READS those changes, it's just new domains aren't wanting to work
anymore.  I tried doing ./vconvert -m -c to see if it was using CDB
to store all the user info instead of mysql for some reason, but it
still doesn't pick up the user information when trying to send them
mail.  Gives the same as above.
If anyone could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it,
I've been pulling my hair out for the past couple hours now.





Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-16 Thread tonix (Antonio Nati)
This is not strange, as you are disabling chkuser.
You have a misconfiguration. You must modify your qmail Makefile, and 
recompile it, with the lastest vpopmail library you are using.

Tonino
At 16/06/2004 16/06/2004 -0700, you wrote:
Actually, strangely enough, this DID fix the problem so mail is at least 
working, but I'm going to have to try to figure out how to get everything 
else going.

On Jun 16, 2004, at 2:10 AM, Alastair Battrick wrote:
Hi James
I ask because I am having a problem with bounce-no-mailbox. Every domain
(about 6 of them) that had bounce-no-mailbox set, was bouncing everything
including messages to postmaster.
If you could change bounce-no-mailbox to
/home/vpopmail/domains/testdomain.com/postmaster
(ie set the domain to catch all mail to postmaster) and see if that fixes
(albeit temporarily) your problem, it most likely means that we are having
the same problem, and I would like to know why too :)
Cheers
Alastair

James Taylor said:
| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox
.. which is think is what it's supposed to be set at, no?
On Jun 15, 2004, at 2:46 PM, Alastair Battrick wrote:
Hi James
What is in the .qmail-default for the domain?
Cheers
Alastair
James Taylor wrote:
Hi everyone, running vpopmail 5.4 compiled with MySQL (Everything
else via Bill's Qmail Toaster) and everything was working just fine
until today when I tried to add a domain.  Existing domains seem to
be working just fine, you can add/delete users fine, information is
stored in MySQL and it all looks good.  Now though, when I go to add
a new domain, just for instance say
./vadddomain testdomain.com testpw
It appears to have added the directory - it creates the domain
directory as well as the postmaster maildir, and adds the
testdomain_com table to MySQL with the postmaster user.  It also adds
the testdomain_com information to the dir_control table.  However, if
I try to send mail to postmaster:
telnet localhost 25
helo
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 - chkusr)
./vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
name:   postmaster
passwd: $1$YnGeWacE$YYLUcT0Gw.te3HGkRa9lD.
clear passwd: testpw
uid:0
gid:0
flags:  0
gecos: Postmaster
limits: No user limits set.
dir:   /home/vpopmail/domains/testdomain.com/postmaster
quota: NOQUOTA
usage: NOQUOTA
account created: Tue Jun 15 14:28:53 2004
last auth: Never logged in
Same information listed in the MySQL row.
./vadduser [EMAIL PROTECTED] testpw
.. same results with that user as with postmaster, everything
LOOKS good, but nothing works
Looking though the other directories of domains that DO work, I'm
noticing they have a file called vpasswd.  I've had trouble getting
MySQL to completely work, I thought I had it before but now it's
acting funky again with this issue.  I think what's happening is
Vpopmail is using MySQL to store the information, but then it's not
using MySQL to retrieve.  The weird thing about it though is that I
can add users to other domains, make changes to existing domains, and
it all takes just fine.  It makes the changes in the MySQL DB, and it
READS those changes, it's just new domains aren't wanting to work
anymore.  I tried doing ./vconvert -m -c to see if it was using CDB
to store all the user info instead of mysql for some reason, but it
still doesn't pick up the user information when trying to send them
mail.  Gives the same as above.
If anyone could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it,
I've been pulling my hair out for the past couple hours now.


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Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-15 Thread Alastair Battrick
Hi James
What is in the .qmail-default for the domain?
Cheers
Alastair
James Taylor wrote:
Hi everyone, running vpopmail 5.4 compiled with MySQL (Everything else 
via Bill's Qmail Toaster) and everything was working just fine until 
today when I tried to add a domain.  Existing domains seem to be working 
just fine, you can add/delete users fine, information is stored in MySQL 
and it all looks good.  Now though, when I go to add a new domain, just 
for instance say

./vadddomain testdomain.com testpw
It appears to have added the directory - it creates the domain directory 
as well as the postmaster maildir, and adds the testdomain_com table to 
MySQL with the postmaster user.  It also adds the testdomain_com 
information to the dir_control table.  However, if I try to send mail to 
postmaster:

telnet localhost 25
helo
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 - chkusr)
./vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
name:   postmaster
passwd: $1$YnGeWacE$YYLUcT0Gw.te3HGkRa9lD.
clear passwd: testpw
uid:0
gid:0
flags:  0
gecos: Postmaster
limits: No user limits set.
dir:   /home/vpopmail/domains/testdomain.com/postmaster
quota: NOQUOTA
usage: NOQUOTA
account created: Tue Jun 15 14:28:53 2004
last auth: Never logged in
Same information listed in the MySQL row.
./vadduser [EMAIL PROTECTED] testpw
.. same results with that user as with postmaster, everything LOOKS 
good, but nothing works

Looking though the other directories of domains that DO work, I'm 
noticing they have a file called vpasswd.  I've had trouble getting 
MySQL to completely work, I thought I had it before but now it's acting 
funky again with this issue.  I think what's happening is Vpopmail is 
using MySQL to store the information, but then it's not using MySQL to 
retrieve.  The weird thing about it though is that I can add users to 
other domains, make changes to existing domains, and it all takes just 
fine.  It makes the changes in the MySQL DB, and it READS those changes, 
it's just new domains aren't wanting to work anymore.  I tried doing 
./vconvert -m -c to see if it was using CDB to store all the user info 
instead of mysql for some reason, but it still doesn't pick up the user 
information when trying to send them mail.  Gives the same as above.

If anyone could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it, I've 
been pulling my hair out for the past couple hours now.


Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-15 Thread James Taylor
| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox
.. which is think is what it's supposed to be set at, no?
On Jun 15, 2004, at 2:46 PM, Alastair Battrick wrote:
Hi James
What is in the .qmail-default for the domain?
Cheers
Alastair
James Taylor wrote:
Hi everyone, running vpopmail 5.4 compiled with MySQL (Everything 
else via Bill's Qmail Toaster) and everything was working just fine 
until today when I tried to add a domain.  Existing domains seem to 
be working just fine, you can add/delete users fine, information is 
stored in MySQL and it all looks good.  Now though, when I go to add 
a new domain, just for instance say
./vadddomain testdomain.com testpw
It appears to have added the directory - it creates the domain 
directory as well as the postmaster maildir, and adds the 
testdomain_com table to MySQL with the postmaster user.  It also adds 
the testdomain_com information to the dir_control table.  However, if 
I try to send mail to postmaster:
telnet localhost 25
helo
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 - chkusr)
./vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
name:   postmaster
passwd: $1$YnGeWacE$YYLUcT0Gw.te3HGkRa9lD.
clear passwd: testpw
uid:0
gid:0
flags:  0
gecos: Postmaster
limits: No user limits set.
dir:   /home/vpopmail/domains/testdomain.com/postmaster
quota: NOQUOTA
usage: NOQUOTA
account created: Tue Jun 15 14:28:53 2004
last auth: Never logged in
Same information listed in the MySQL row.
./vadduser [EMAIL PROTECTED] testpw
.. same results with that user as with postmaster, everything 
LOOKS good, but nothing works
Looking though the other directories of domains that DO work, I'm 
noticing they have a file called vpasswd.  I've had trouble getting 
MySQL to completely work, I thought I had it before but now it's 
acting funky again with this issue.  I think what's happening is 
Vpopmail is using MySQL to store the information, but then it's not 
using MySQL to retrieve.  The weird thing about it though is that I 
can add users to other domains, make changes to existing domains, and 
it all takes just fine.  It makes the changes in the MySQL DB, and it 
READS those changes, it's just new domains aren't wanting to work 
anymore.  I tried doing ./vconvert -m -c to see if it was using CDB 
to store all the user info instead of mysql for some reason, but it 
still doesn't pick up the user information when trying to send them 
mail.  Gives the same as above.
If anyone could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it, 
I've been pulling my hair out for the past couple hours now.



Re: [vchkpw] Vpopmail + Mysql, can't add domains

2004-06-15 Thread Tom Collins
On Jun 15, 2004, at 2:41 PM, James Taylor wrote:
Looking though the other directories of domains that DO work, I'm 
noticing they have a file called vpasswd.  I've had trouble getting 
MySQL to completely work, I thought I had it before but now it's 
acting funky again with this issue.  I think what's happening is 
Vpopmail is using MySQL to store the information, but then it's not 
using MySQL to retrieve.
It sounds like you originally compiled vpopmail for CDB, then compiled 
qmail-smtpd with the chkusr patch, and then reconfigured/installed 
vpopmail for MySQL.

You need to rebuild qmail-smtpd so it links to the new libvpopmail 
that's built for MySQL instead of CDB.

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