Re: [vchkpw] domain quotas query
- Original Message - From: Jesse Guardiani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] domain quotas query On Saturday 19 July 2003 12:01, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: so gee, did i really stump the stars on this one? nobody out there has converted to domain quotas? Very few, I'd bet. I took a look at the new domain soft quota code a few months ago (you might remember the heated discussion I had with the author), and finally came to the conclusion that this code is definately NOT ready for prime time. It's a valiant attempt, but it is buggy and fatally flawed in that it won't play nicely with maildir++ applications like sqwebmail, Courier-IMAP, or maildrop. Stick with hard filesystem domain quotas, install that qmailadmin patch that was floating around last year (it gave qmailadmin domain admins the ability to reconfigure user quotas under a set domain limit), or forget it. That's MHO, and I'm sticking to it. I think that if we really want domain quotas (and I, for one, do!) then we need to get together with Sam of Courier IMAP fame and create a new maildir+++ specification that will accomodate domain quotas. That way everyone can continue playing nice together. HTH. I too share some concerns about the inclusion of domain quotas in the current development vpopmail In hindsight I believe it would have been better to sign off on a stable vpopmail, and then the new domain quota stuff could have been added to the next development series. I wonder if it would be hard to remove or not...? Was the domain quota additions limited to just a few functions, or was it pretty much substantial changes to much of vpopmail code? Michael.
Re: [vchkpw] domain quotas query
On Saturday 19 July 2003 12:01, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: i now want to convert to domain quotas, wherein i give the domain a 'bulk' quota, then the customer can allocate individual user quotas within that total. but i'm a little confused about a couple of things: I already sent some patches to qmailadmin making that. You assign a total quota to the postmaster, then, using qmailadmin, each user quota is subtracted/added from the postmaster quota. In this way you assign a domain total, and the administrator may assign user quotas within that limit. That is compliant with all (Maildir++, Courier, vpopmail, sqwebmail, etc..) and very safe. I'm using it from months, and I'ld like to see that code inside standard qmailadmin. Tonino [EMAIL PROTECTED]Interazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [vchkpw] domain quotas query
On Saturday 19 July 2003 12:01, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: so gee, did i really stump the stars on this one? nobody out there has converted to domain quotas? Very few, I'd bet. I took a look at the new domain soft quota code a few months ago (you might remember the heated discussion I had with the author), and finally came to the conclusion that this code is definately NOT ready for prime time. It's a valiant attempt, but it is buggy and fatally flawed in that it won't play nicely with maildir++ applications like sqwebmail, Courier-IMAP, or maildrop. Stick with hard filesystem domain quotas, install that qmailadmin patch that was floating around last year (it gave qmailadmin domain admins the ability to reconfigure user quotas under a set domain limit), or forget it. That's MHO, and I'm sticking to it. I think that if we really want domain quotas (and I, for one, do!) then we need to get together with Sam of Courier IMAP fame and create a new maildir+++ specification that will accomodate domain quotas. That way everyone can continue playing nice together. HTH. At 11:42 AM 7/18/2003, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: i'm about to upgrade from vpopmail 5.3.18 to 5.3.20. i'm also going to upgrade qmailadmin to the latest dev version. i have until now been running with user quotas set via vqadmin, so for example in vqadmin for domain example.com, i would fill in the quota field with 5000S,5000C and that would automatically set the quota that each user within that domain gets when the customer creates a new account. i now want to convert to domain quotas, wherein i give the domain a 'bulk' quota, then the customer can allocate individual user quotas within that total. but i'm a little confused about a couple of things: 1. if i upgrade vpopmail with the --enable-domainquotas=y setting, will that then cause all already existing domains to 'break' - that is, will the existing per-user quota that's already in place suddenly become the domain quota, rendering the existing users quotas as consuming more than the global quota causing mail to bounce until i can update them by hand? (hope that makes sense) 2. when setting the new domainquota, does it accept the quota value identically to the user quotas? the example in README.quotas simply says to add for example quota 50 to .qmailadmin-limits. if i have a domain with 20 users, 50meg quota per user, and 5000 message quota per user, would that mean i'd enter quota 10S,10C ?? i presume that's not right (the math notwithstanding!) - i would presume that the domain quota is only for disk usage, not message counts. true? 3. when implementing domain quotas - does it automatically change how the domain quota is interpreted in vqadmin? if i set the quota there, will that then become the domain quota, or is that field interpreted only as the user's default quota? 4. the example shown from README.quota also differs from the format of an existing .qmailadmin-limits file on my system, e.g. cat .qmailadmin-limits maxpopaccounts: 51 maxaliases: 51 maxforwards: 51 maxautoresponders: 51 maxmailinglists: 51 default_quota: 1S,5000C is it true i'd add the domain quota as quota xxx rather than quota: xxx ? lots of questions. sorry. hope i'm not retreading already answered stuff, but i'm a continuous subscriber for a long time, and i don't recall seeing these issues brought up. thanks. Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net
Re: [vchkpw] domain quotas query
so gee, did i really stump the stars on this one? nobody out there has converted to domain quotas? At 11:42 AM 7/18/2003, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: i'm about to upgrade from vpopmail 5.3.18 to 5.3.20. i'm also going to upgrade qmailadmin to the latest dev version. i have until now been running with user quotas set via vqadmin, so for example in vqadmin for domain example.com, i would fill in the quota field with 5000S,5000C and that would automatically set the quota that each user within that domain gets when the customer creates a new account. i now want to convert to domain quotas, wherein i give the domain a 'bulk' quota, then the customer can allocate individual user quotas within that total. but i'm a little confused about a couple of things: 1. if i upgrade vpopmail with the --enable-domainquotas=y setting, will that then cause all already existing domains to 'break' - that is, will the existing per-user quota that's already in place suddenly become the domain quota, rendering the existing users quotas as consuming more than the global quota causing mail to bounce until i can update them by hand? (hope that makes sense) 2. when setting the new domainquota, does it accept the quota value identically to the user quotas? the example in README.quotas simply says to add for example quota 50 to .qmailadmin-limits. if i have a domain with 20 users, 50meg quota per user, and 5000 message quota per user, would that mean i'd enter quota 10S,10C ?? i presume that's not right (the math notwithstanding!) - i would presume that the domain quota is only for disk usage, not message counts. true? 3. when implementing domain quotas - does it automatically change how the domain quota is interpreted in vqadmin? if i set the quota there, will that then become the domain quota, or is that field interpreted only as the user's default quota? 4. the example shown from README.quota also differs from the format of an existing .qmailadmin-limits file on my system, e.g. cat .qmailadmin-limits maxpopaccounts: 51 maxaliases: 51 maxforwards: 51 maxautoresponders: 51 maxmailinglists: 51 default_quota: 1S,5000C is it true i'd add the domain quota as quota xxx rather than quota: xxx ? lots of questions. sorry. hope i'm not retreading already answered stuff, but i'm a continuous subscriber for a long time, and i don't recall seeing these issues brought up. thanks. Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com
