Re: [vchkpw] rcpt check user problems with sender - resolution

2006-06-01 Thread tonix (Antonio Nati)

At 00.07 01/06/2006, you wrote:

tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:

At 23.25 31/05/2006, you wrote:


tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:


At 21.44 31/05/2006, you wrote:


Rick Macdougall wrote:


Ken Jones wrote:


Hi,

Tonino was able to do a fast analysis of the problem.

Server: Qmail with Tonino's check user patch.

Problem:
When an email sender identifying itself as SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830)
sends an email to multiple rcpt's, where some of the rcpt are
valid and some are invalid, not all the emails to valid rcpts
are delivered and the sender reports an incorrect list of
valid/invalid rcpts.

Resolution:
Problem due to Outlook not fully supporting SMTP protocol.



So there was no real resolution ?  Did you have them stop using 
the ISA firewall ?

Regards,
Rick




I disabled check user for their static IP.



Are they using your server as a relay, or are they just sending 
to everyone from Outlook?
I feel chkuser should be disabled when used as relay from Outlook 
or Eudora.



They are just sending using Outlook. Not as a relay.
They are an external company sending to local users.

We do not have any reported problems from any relay users.


I have reported complaints from customers which use Outlook; when 
they send to multiple recipients (and one is wrong) cannot 
understand which is the error. So I have a dedicated qmail-smtpd 
for relaying users where I accept all messages without chkuser.


It looks like firefox does not like the error message too.


To be more exact, this is not a problem of chkuser, but of every smtp 
server rejecting not existing rcpt (including qmail + chkuser).



I sent a test mail to a valid and an invalid account on our mail
server and firefox pops up a message:

An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:
sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 - chkusr). Please verify
that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again.


Probably in a future version I'll give the option to have an extended 
error, specifying which rcpt has not been found.


Something like sorry, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not known/recognized on 
this server (#chkuser).



Looks like I need to disable chkuser when RELAYCLIENT is set.

Is there an easy way, with the current version, to disable chk user
when the RELAYCLIENT is set?



Version 2.0.9 will have such feature. Probably I'll publish a 
2.0.9-beta that could help to solve these problems (actual code is 
stable, but I have to add other features, or more likely I'll freeze 
2.0.9 and work on 2.0.10).


Tonino


Ken





Re: [vchkpw] rcpt check user problems with sender - resolution

2006-05-31 Thread Ken Jones

Rick Macdougall wrote:

Ken Jones wrote:


Hi,

Tonino was able to do a fast analysis of the problem.

Server: Qmail with Tonino's check user patch.

Problem:
When an email sender identifying itself as SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830)
sends an email to multiple rcpt's, where some of the rcpt are
valid and some are invalid, not all the emails to valid rcpts
are delivered and the sender reports an incorrect list of
valid/invalid rcpts.

Resolution:
Problem due to Outlook not fully supporting SMTP protocol.



So there was no real resolution ?  Did you have them stop using the ISA 
firewall ?


Regards,

Rick



I disabled check user for their static IP.

Ken


Re: [vchkpw] rcpt check user problems with sender - resolution

2006-05-31 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 12:44, Ken Jones wrote:
 I disabled check user for their static IP.

and hopefully informed them that they should use an MUA that isn't 
braindead ;)

-Jeremy

-- 
Jeremy Kitchen ++ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://ipaction.org/ -- defend your rights to fair use


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Re: [vchkpw] rcpt check user problems with sender - resolution

2006-05-31 Thread tonix (Antonio Nati)

At 21.44 31/05/2006, you wrote:

Rick Macdougall wrote:

Ken Jones wrote:


Hi,

Tonino was able to do a fast analysis of the problem.

Server: Qmail with Tonino's check user patch.

Problem:
When an email sender identifying itself as SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830)
sends an email to multiple rcpt's, where some of the rcpt are
valid and some are invalid, not all the emails to valid rcpts
are delivered and the sender reports an incorrect list of
valid/invalid rcpts.

Resolution:
Problem due to Outlook not fully supporting SMTP protocol.
So there was no real resolution ?  Did you have them stop using the 
ISA firewall ?

Regards,
Rick


I disabled check user for their static IP.


Are they using your server as a relay, or are they just sending to 
everyone from Outlook?


I feel chkuser should be disabled when used as relay from Outlook or Eudora.

Regards,

Tonino


Ken





Re: [vchkpw] rcpt check user problems with sender - resolution

2006-05-31 Thread Ken Jones

tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:

At 21.44 31/05/2006, you wrote:


Rick Macdougall wrote:


Ken Jones wrote:


Hi,

Tonino was able to do a fast analysis of the problem.

Server: Qmail with Tonino's check user patch.

Problem:
When an email sender identifying itself as SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830)
sends an email to multiple rcpt's, where some of the rcpt are
valid and some are invalid, not all the emails to valid rcpts
are delivered and the sender reports an incorrect list of
valid/invalid rcpts.

Resolution:
Problem due to Outlook not fully supporting SMTP protocol.


So there was no real resolution ?  Did you have them stop using the 
ISA firewall ?

Regards,
Rick



I disabled check user for their static IP.



Are they using your server as a relay, or are they just sending to 
everyone from Outlook?


I feel chkuser should be disabled when used as relay from Outlook or 
Eudora.


They are just sending using Outlook. Not as a relay.
They are an external company sending to local users.

We do not have any reported problems from any relay users.

Ken



Re: [vchkpw] rcpt check user problems with sender - resolution

2006-05-31 Thread tonix (Antonio Nati)

At 23.25 31/05/2006, you wrote:

tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:

At 21.44 31/05/2006, you wrote:


Rick Macdougall wrote:


Ken Jones wrote:


Hi,

Tonino was able to do a fast analysis of the problem.

Server: Qmail with Tonino's check user patch.

Problem:
When an email sender identifying itself as SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830)
sends an email to multiple rcpt's, where some of the rcpt are
valid and some are invalid, not all the emails to valid rcpts
are delivered and the sender reports an incorrect list of
valid/invalid rcpts.

Resolution:
Problem due to Outlook not fully supporting SMTP protocol.


So there was no real resolution ?  Did you have them stop using 
the ISA firewall ?

Regards,
Rick



I disabled check user for their static IP.


Are they using your server as a relay, or are they just sending to 
everyone from Outlook?

I feel chkuser should be disabled when used as relay from Outlook or Eudora.


They are just sending using Outlook. Not as a relay.
They are an external company sending to local users.

We do not have any reported problems from any relay users.


I have reported complaints from customers which use Outlook; when 
they send to multiple recipients (and one is wrong) cannot understand 
which is the error. So I have a dedicated qmail-smtpd for relaying 
users where I accept all messages without chkuser.


Tonino


Ken