Re: Computer Lab

2010-09-27 Thread Gabriel Muñoz
Hi Andy, thanks for your time. The university where I work, has time
and distance mode and virtual laboratories is an undeveloped theme. We
are trying to improve our virtual labs.

In this process of improving virtual labs we encountered several areas of work.
A central theme is the virtual laboratory software simulation of a
real experience. Where 3 teams developing the classroom Scorm
simulations themselves, the toolkit for real experience too, study
guides, etc.

Another focus: is the virtual laboratory as online computer lab
where students can use an operating system that is controlled, virus
free, with legal software, with libraries (dll) for each project, with
the versions of software proposed by the teacher, etc. This is useful
because at the time of evaluation or follow students' work is
complicated because the teacher can not play the simulations by
differences in software used by the student. For this axis VCL think
the project could serve us. To give students remote access to lab
machines.
Students now come with a generic user name and a generic pass several
times we realized the need to change this but we think it is the most
important thing right now. First we meet the need and then optimize
it.
On your windows xp example you install Cygwin only because it is
written in machine instructions for preparing laboratory encotramos
the requirements of vcl, we know that linux is to install programs on
a Linux operating system, but we do not need it (we believed that it
needed VLCD). VCL may not be the project that we need, if so do you
know anyone who can prove?.
We have chosen to implement open source software as we can.

The last line is that the teacher and student share the same desk
(same screen) to when they have questions and communicate with
teachers via chat, phone, video conferencing. As student and teacher
can interact together on the same screen. For this axis todabia not
find a opensource project that fits. Do you know any?

Thank you very much, hope not to have boring, only to tell the reality
of here and use that we give to the project.

Gabriel.


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Gabriel José Muñoz
Instituto Universitario Aeronáutico
Córdoba, Argentina.

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Andy Kurth andy_ku...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 Hola,
 VCL currently supports Linux and Unix lab machines.  Adding support for
 Windows has been a desired feature for a long time.  Since you already have
 Cygwin sshd working on the machines it wouldn't take much to allow VCL to
 provision them.

 A few questions...
 How do users normally log in to these machines?
 Are they part of an AD domain?
 Was Cygwin installed individually, via a GPO, or something else?
 Do you know of anything else that you'd want to be automatically configured
 on the machine other than opening up RDP when a user makes a reservation?


 -Andy


 Gabriel Muñoz wrote:

 Thank you,
 Gabriel.

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Henry E Schaffer h...@unity.ncsu.edu
 wrote:

 Gabriel Mu?oz writes:

 Thank you, the scenario is the same. We are thinking to use this
 project to get student's access when the lab is closed. Ours labs use
 Linux and Windows. Please if you remember how you do to make it works
 tell me.

  I'm going to send this on to the vcl-dev list - I think you are more
 likely to get an answer there.

 --henry

 Thank,
 Gabriel.


 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Henry E Schaffer h...@unity.ncsu.edu
 wrote:

 Gabriel Mu?oz writes:

 Can I use vcl for a phisical machine inside a lab?

  Yes, I think - but I'm not sure what you mean.

 Notes of this machine (Computer):
 * OS: Windows xp
 * Inside this computer I installed: cygwin with ssh, enabled firewall,
 enabled rpc, I can connect to this machine remotly from vlcd server
 via ssh and rdesktop.
 * I have installed vcld, management node and web interface.

 In affimative case:
  * Is necesary make an image for this machine?
  * How I must do to register this machine in the web interface?
  * How I get the control of this machine via web interface?

 I'm trying, too hard but without good news.

  For physical lab machines, we use the VCL software to reserve these
 computers for online use when the computer lab is closed - so there is
 no conflict between the remote user and a user at the physical
 keyboard.
 These computers aren't re-imaged - rather the user gets what's there
 and
 isn't root/Administrator.

  Foggy memory: I think this can be done for Linux/Solaris/Windows lab
 machines, but some small piece of software must be installed to have
 them talk with the VCL software.

  If this is the type of use you are asking about, I'm sure someone else
 can give more details.  If you have another use in mind, please explain
 further.
 --
 --henry schaffer



Re: Computer Lab

2010-09-24 Thread Henry E Schaffer
Gabriel Mu?oz writes:
 Thank you, the scenario is the same. We are thinking to use this
 project to get student's access when the lab is closed. Ours labs use
 Linux and Windows. Please if you remember how you do to make it works
 tell me.

  I'm going to send this on to the vcl-dev list - I think you are more
likely to get an answer there.

--henry
 Thank,
 Gabriel.
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Henry E Schaffer h...@unity.ncsu.edu wrote:
  Gabriel Mu?oz writes:
  Can I use vcl for a phisical machine inside a lab?
 
  ?Yes, I think - but I'm not sure what you mean.
 
  Notes of this machine (Computer):
  * OS: Windows xp
  * Inside this computer I installed: cygwin with ssh, enabled firewall,
  enabled rpc, I can connect to this machine remotly from vlcd server
  via ssh and rdesktop.
  * I have installed vcld, management node and web interface.
 
  In affimative case:
  ?* Is necesary make an image for this machine?
  ?* How I must do to register this machine in the web interface?
  ?* How I get the control of this machine via web interface?
 
  I'm trying, too hard but without good news.
 
  ?For physical lab machines, we use the VCL software to reserve these
  computers for online use when the computer lab is closed - so there is
  no conflict between the remote user and a user at the physical keyboard.
  These computers aren't re-imaged - rather the user gets what's there and
  isn't root/Administrator.
 
  ?Foggy memory: I think this can be done for Linux/Solaris/Windows lab
  machines, but some small piece of software must be installed to have
  them talk with the VCL software.
 
  ?If this is the type of use you are asking about, I'm sure someone else
  can give more details. ?If you have another use in mind, please explain
  further.
  --
  --henry schaffer


Re: Computer Lab

2010-09-24 Thread Andy Kurth

Hola,
VCL currently supports Linux and Unix lab machines.  Adding support for 
Windows has been a desired feature for a long time.  Since you already 
have Cygwin sshd working on the machines it wouldn't take much to allow 
VCL to provision them.


A few questions...
How do users normally log in to these machines?
Are they part of an AD domain?
Was Cygwin installed individually, via a GPO, or something else?
Do you know of anything else that you'd want to be automatically 
configured on the machine other than opening up RDP when a user makes a 
reservation?



-Andy


Gabriel Muñoz wrote:

Thank you,
Gabriel.

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Henry E Schaffer h...@unity.ncsu.edu wrote:

Gabriel Mu?oz writes:

Thank you, the scenario is the same. We are thinking to use this
project to get student's access when the lab is closed. Ours labs use
Linux and Windows. Please if you remember how you do to make it works
tell me.

 I'm going to send this on to the vcl-dev list - I think you are more
likely to get an answer there.

--henry

Thank,
Gabriel.


On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Henry E Schaffer h...@unity.ncsu.edu wrote:

Gabriel Mu?oz writes:

Can I use vcl for a phisical machine inside a lab?

 Yes, I think - but I'm not sure what you mean.


Notes of this machine (Computer):
* OS: Windows xp
* Inside this computer I installed: cygwin with ssh, enabled firewall,
enabled rpc, I can connect to this machine remotly from vlcd server
via ssh and rdesktop.
* I have installed vcld, management node and web interface.

In affimative case:
 * Is necesary make an image for this machine?
 * How I must do to register this machine in the web interface?
 * How I get the control of this machine via web interface?

I'm trying, too hard but without good news.

 For physical lab machines, we use the VCL software to reserve these
computers for online use when the computer lab is closed - so there is
no conflict between the remote user and a user at the physical keyboard.
These computers aren't re-imaged - rather the user gets what's there and
isn't root/Administrator.

 Foggy memory: I think this can be done for Linux/Solaris/Windows lab
machines, but some small piece of software must be installed to have
them talk with the VCL software.

 If this is the type of use you are asking about, I'm sure someone else
can give more details.  If you have another use in mind, please explain
further.
--
--henry schaffer