Re: mr: chaining to absolute paths

2011-11-06 Thread Adam Spiers
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Joey Hess j...@kitenet.net wrote:
 Adam Spiers wrote:
     - Do you track your mrconfig files with version control?
 
  yes

 How do you do that?  Are they all in one repo?  How do you get each
 one into the right subdirectory of ~ ?

 They're checked out by mr as part of the repositories that provide the
 subdirectories they're in.

Thanks for the info, but I'm confused because that doesn't seem to
correspond exactly with the layout you gave earlier.  For example, you
said that you have a ~/doc/.mrconfig, but you didn't say that there
was a repository tracking ~/doc itself - only that ~/doc had various
document repositories inside it.

So is your ~/doc/.mrconfig tracked by a repository?  If so it sounds
like you have nested repositories, which git would presumably detect
as submodules unless you are using a symlink manager?

Thanks!  By the way there are good reasons for my curiosity ;-)  I'm
mulling over a similar layout but want to avoid nested repositories
and also prefer a symlink manager to detached git working directories.
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Re: mr: chaining to absolute paths

2011-11-06 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Spiers wrote:
 Thanks for the info, but I'm confused because that doesn't seem to
 correspond exactly with the layout you gave earlier.  For example, you
 said that you have a ~/doc/.mrconfig, but you didn't say that there
 was a repository tracking ~/doc itself - only that ~/doc had various
 document repositories inside it.

Every directory I showed is a separate repository.

 So is your ~/doc/.mrconfig tracked by a repository?  If so it sounds
 like you have nested repositories, which git would presumably detect
 as submodules unless you are using a symlink manager?

git does not detect nested git repos as submodules, that would have to
be explicitly set up.

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Re: mr: chaining to absolute paths

2011-11-03 Thread Adam Spiers
On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 05:02:13PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 Adam Spiers wrote:
  I notice that chaining to absolute paths does not work, e.g.:
  Is this a feature or a bug?  I would have thought it would be useful
  to chain to absolute paths.
 
 Probably because nobody noticed since when you're in ~/foo/bar,
 ~/foo/bar/.mrconfig will be read anyway without chaining.

But ~/foo/bar is just a single repo, so if that's already your current
working directory, wouldn't you just end up invoking git (or whatever)
directly instead?

I'm beginning to suspect that the way I imagine using mr is
fundamentally different to everyone else's way.  Your previous point
about mr working best with locality of reference (i.e. each .mrconfig
being in a parent or near ancestor of the directories containing the
repos it manages) also contributed to this suspicion.  I can
understand how that makes for clean .mrconfig files with short
relative paths in the section headers, but I can't understand how you
could then version control all your .mrconfig files and share them
across computers.  And if you can't, then doesn't that discard a very
large part of the advantage of using mr in the first place?

I guess it would really help me if one or two people would be kind
enough to briefly describe the way they use mr, e.g.

  - How is your home directory structured, i.e. where do your mrconfig
files and repos live within it, and which mrconfig files point to
which repos?

  - How many mrconfig files and mr-managed repos do you have?

  - Do you track your mrconfig files with version control?

  - Do you frequently use the -d or -c options?

  - Do you usually cd to a particular directory before running mr, and
if so, why?

To me, it's important that a tool like mr can act on an arbitrary list
of repositories regardless of my current working directory.  In other
words, I'd rather choose which repositories mr should act on via the
parameters I'm invoking mr with, rather than by cd'ing to a particular
directory, running mr, then potentially having to repeat the cd + mr
steps multiple times.

 And there's rarely a reason to use an absolute path.

I can't see how to accomplish what I need without them.  Hopefully
answers to the above questions would help me realise what I'm missing.

 Fixed in git.

Great, thanks!
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Re: mr: chaining to absolute paths

2011-11-03 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Spiers wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 05:02:13PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
  Adam Spiers wrote:
   I notice that chaining to absolute paths does not work, e.g.:
   Is this a feature or a bug?  I would have thought it would be useful
   to chain to absolute paths.
  
  Probably because nobody noticed since when you're in ~/foo/bar,
  ~/foo/bar/.mrconfig will be read anyway without chaining.

I probably meant to say ~/foo/.mrconfig fwiw.

 I'm beginning to suspect that the way I imagine using mr is
 fundamentally different to everyone else's way.  Your previous point
 about mr working best with locality of reference (i.e. each .mrconfig
 being in a parent or near ancestor of the directories containing the
 repos it manages) also contributed to this suspicion.  I can
 understand how that makes for clean .mrconfig files with short
 relative paths in the section headers, but I can't understand how you
 could then version control all your .mrconfig files and share them
 across computers.  And if you can't, then doesn't that discard a very
 large part of the advantage of using mr in the first place?
 
 I guess it would really help me if one or two people would be kind
 enough to briefly describe the way they use mr, e.g.
 
   - How is your home directory structured, i.e. where do your mrconfig
 files and repos live within it, and which mrconfig files point to
 which repos?

Sure:

~
.mrconfig
doc
.mrconfig
(various document repositories)
src
.mrconfig
(many package sources)
d-i
.mrconfig
lib/backup
.mrconfig (only exists on a few machines, various repositories)


   - How many mrconfig files and mr-managed repos do you have?

190 repos, mostly in src
 
   - Do you track your mrconfig files with version control?

yes

   - Do you frequently use the -d or -c options?

never

   - Do you usually cd to a particular directory before running mr, and
 if so, why?

I always run mr in the directory I want to affect. Sometimes this
directory contains many repositories, sometimes only one. The point of
mr is I don't need to care how many underlying repositories there are.
If I run it in ~/src/d-i, I want to act on d-i; in
~/src/d-i/package/main-menu I'm only dealing with one package; in ~/src
I want to act on all my source repos.

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Re: mr: chaining to absolute paths

2011-11-03 Thread Adam Spiers
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 12:22:48PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 Adam Spiers wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 05:02:13PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
   Adam Spiers wrote:
I notice that chaining to absolute paths does not work, e.g.:
Is this a feature or a bug?  I would have thought it would be useful
to chain to absolute paths.
   
   Probably because nobody noticed since when you're in ~/foo/bar,
   ~/foo/bar/.mrconfig will be read anyway without chaining.
 
 I probably meant to say ~/foo/.mrconfig fwiw.

Ah, OK.

[snipped]

  I guess it would really help me if one or two people would be kind
  enough to briefly describe the way they use mr, e.g.
  
- How is your home directory structured, i.e. where do your mrconfig
  files and repos live within it, and which mrconfig files point to
  which repos?
 
 Sure:

[snipped]

Thanks, this is really useful!

- Do you track your mrconfig files with version control?
 
 yes

How do you do that?  Are they all in one repo?  How do you get each
one into the right subdirectory of ~ ?

- Do you frequently use the -d or -c options?
 
 never
 
- Do you usually cd to a particular directory before running mr, and
  if so, why?
 
 I always run mr in the directory I want to affect. Sometimes this
 directory contains many repositories, sometimes only one. The point of
 mr is I don't need to care how many underlying repositories there are.
 If I run it in ~/src/d-i, I want to act on d-i; in
 ~/src/d-i/package/main-menu I'm only dealing with one package; in ~/src
 I want to act on all my source repos.

Very helpful and food for thought, thanks again.
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Re: mr: chaining to absolute paths

2011-11-03 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Spiers wrote:
 - Do you track your mrconfig files with version control?
  
  yes
 
 How do you do that?  Are they all in one repo?  How do you get each
 one into the right subdirectory of ~ ?

They're checked out by mr as part of the repositories that provide the
subdirectories they're in.

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Re: mr: chaining to absolute paths

2011-11-02 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Spiers wrote:
 I notice that chaining to absolute paths does not work, e.g.:
 
 [$HOME/foo/bar]
 checkout = ...
 chain = true
 
 This is due to the way the chaining code checks for an .mrconfig in
 the chained repository:
 
 if ($parameter eq 'chain' 
 length $dir  $section ne DEFAULT 
 -e $dir.$section./.mrconfig) {
 
 Is this a feature or a bug?  I would have thought it would be useful
 to chain to absolute paths.

Probably because nobody noticed since when you're in ~/foo/bar,
~/foo/bar/.mrconfig will be read anyway without chaining. And there's
rarely a reason to use an absolute path.

Fixed in git.

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