Re: [vdr] Few more questions about xinelibout

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Betis
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Petri Helin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Alex Betis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Few more questions about xinelibout.
  I've run the frontend now as a separate task and looks like it doesn't
 crash
  now except when I try to open a picture, I'll try to debug it later.
 

 Perhaps your pictures a too big for xv? Try to reduce their size.

I would expect the software to do it...



  The questions are probably very simple:
  - When I playback a file, how can I move back? When replaying a live
 stream
  my  and  keys act as backward and forward buttons. In file playback
  forward runs the movie forward indeed, but backward button slows the
  playback until its fully stopped.

 This is a standard feature/restriction of many software players. You
 can jump backwards a given number of seconds, but a true rewind is not
 possible.

Jump back is good enough, the question is how can I do it in xinelibout
frontend?



  - Does deinterlacing settings from VDR menu apply also to movie playback?
  Sometimes I can see effects of picture is not sync with the screen, I
 mean
  that the picture is shown as its 2 halfs (top and bottom) that are moving
 in
  very little difference. Thats mostly seen when the whole picture is
 moved.

 Sounds like tearing to me. Usually caused by difference in the output
 refresh rate and the video being played back, or just crappy drivers
 (like Intel with certain hardware combined with Textured video).

I was looking for the right word... tearing...
I have nVidia 177.82 driver. Again, mplayer has no such problem.

Thanks.



 -Petri

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Re: [vdr] Few more questions about xinelibout

2008-12-05 Thread Petri Helin
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Alex Betis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Petri Helin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Alex Betis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Few more questions about xinelibout.
  I've run the frontend now as a separate task and looks like it doesn't
  crash
  now except when I try to open a picture, I'll try to debug it later.
 

 Perhaps your pictures a too big for xv? Try to reduce their size.

 I would expect the software to do it...

You need to patch xine-lib to do that. But first I suggest you try out
with smaller pictures to confirm the reason. What is the resolution of
the pictures?



  The questions are probably very simple:
  - When I playback a file, how can I move back? When replaying a live
  stream
  my  and  keys act as backward and forward buttons. In file
  playback
  forward runs the movie forward indeed, but backward button slows the
  playback until its fully stopped.

 This is a standard feature/restriction of many software players. You
 can jump backwards a given number of seconds, but a true rewind is not
 possible.

 Jump back is good enough, the question is how can I do it in xinelibout
 frontend?

See the README file under Media player key bindings for video files:

GreenJump 1 min back
Yellow   Jump 1 min forward
1, User8 Jump 20 s back
3, User9 Jump 20 s forward

  - Does deinterlacing settings from VDR menu apply also to movie
  playback?
  Sometimes I can see effects of picture is not sync with the screen, I
  mean
  that the picture is shown as its 2 halfs (top and bottom) that are
  moving in
  very little difference. Thats mostly seen when the whole picture is
  moved.

 Sounds like tearing to me. Usually caused by difference in the output
 refresh rate and the video being played back, or just crappy drivers
 (like Intel with certain hardware combined with Textured video).

 I was looking for the right word... tearing...
 I have nVidia 177.82 driver. Again, mplayer has no such problem.

Try xine-ui with the same file. If that works, compare files
~/.xine/config and ~/.xine/config_xineliboutput for any differences.


-Petri

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Re: [vdr] Few more questions about xinelibout

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Betis
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Petri Helin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I've run the frontend now as a separate task and looks like it doesn't
   crash
   now except when I try to open a picture, I'll try to debug it later.
  
 
  Perhaps your pictures a too big for xv? Try to reduce their size.
 
  I would expect the software to do it...

 You need to patch xine-lib to do that. But first I suggest you try out
 with smaller pictures to confirm the reason. What is the resolution of
 the pictures?

You're right! Small sized pictures (640x480) do not crash it, while the ones
from my camera without conversion (3072x2304) crash it.
Could you point me to a patch xine-lib to scale automatically?



 
 
   The questions are probably very simple:
   - When I playback a file, how can I move back? When replaying a live
   stream
   my  and  keys act as backward and forward buttons. In file
   playback
   forward runs the movie forward indeed, but backward button slows the
   playback until its fully stopped.
 
  This is a standard feature/restriction of many software players. You
  can jump backwards a given number of seconds, but a true rewind is not
  possible.
 
  Jump back is good enough, the question is how can I do it in xinelibout
  frontend?

 See the README file under Media player key bindings for video files:

 GreenJump 1 min back
 Yellow   Jump 1 min forward
 1, User8 Jump 20 s back
 3, User9 Jump 20 s forward

Thanks! I've read it long ago and forgot that part already.




   - Does deinterlacing settings from VDR menu apply also to movie
   playback?
   Sometimes I can see effects of picture is not sync with the screen, I
   mean
   that the picture is shown as its 2 halfs (top and bottom) that are
   moving in
   very little difference. Thats mostly seen when the whole picture is
   moved.
 
  Sounds like tearing to me. Usually caused by difference in the output
  refresh rate and the video being played back, or just crappy drivers
  (like Intel with certain hardware combined with Textured video).
 
  I was looking for the right word... tearing...
  I have nVidia 177.82 driver. Again, mplayer has no such problem.

 Try xine-ui with the same file. If that works, compare files
 ~/.xine/config and ~/.xine/config_xineliboutput for any differences.

Strange thing is that I don't see tearing any more. But I'll know where to
look in case it comes back.
By the way, I assume the configuration is overwritten by frontend somehow
since the config_xineliboutput says there is no deinterlacing, while
frontend settings include deinterlacing. Do you know where the frontend
configuration is stored?
The plugins\xineliboutput in VDR config is empty.

Thanks again!




 -Petri

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Re: [vdr] Few more questions about xinelibout

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Betis
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Gerald Dachs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quoting Alex Betis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I was looking for the right word... tearing...
  I have nVidia 177.82 driver. Again, mplayer has no such problem.

 You could try to activate all sync to vblank irqs with nvidia-settings.

I've checked it now, its set to Sync to VBlank already in XVideo setting
tab.
It's not set in OpenGL, but I don't use it for playback.

As I wrote, the problem is gone somehow.

Thanks.



 Gerald



 
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[vdr] Switching time

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Betis
Hi all,

Another question to bother you...

How long does it takes to switch a FTA channel on your system? In my case
DVB-S.

I wonder if this timing sounds ok to you (I think its kind of slow):
1.7.1 + ext64-livebuffer + xinelibout

2 channels on the same transponder - about 2 seconds - video and sound
playing right after the switch.
2 channels on different transponders - about 4 seconds - sound is playing
right after the switch, image is shown, but start moving about 1 more second
later.


Please let me know what is your status on that (including version you're
using).

Thanks.
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[vdr] VDR ERROR: can't set filter every 20 seconds

2008-12-05 Thread Simon Baxter
Hi

My cable provider recently made a number of changes to channel allocations, 
and since then I'm getting the following errors every 20 seconds or so:

Dec  6 10:57:14 callin vdr: [20844] ERROR: can't set filter (pid=16, tid=40, 
mask=FF): Device or resource busy
Dec  6 10:57:35 callin vdr: [20844] ERROR: can't set filter (pid=0, tid=00, 
mask=FF): Device or resource busy
Dec  6 10:57:35 callin vdr: [20844] ERROR: can't set filter (pid=17, tid=42, 
mask=FF): Device or resource busy
Dec  6 10:57:35 callin vdr: [20844] ERROR: can't set filter (pid=16, tid=40, 
mask=FF): Device or resource busy
Dec  6 10:57:57 callin vdr: [20844] ERROR: can't set filter (pid=0, tid=00, 
mask=FF): Device or resource busy
Dec  6 10:57:57 callin vdr: [20844] ERROR: can't set filter (pid=17, tid=42, 
mask=FF): Device or resource busy
Dec  6 10:57:57 callin vdr: [20844] ERROR: can't set filter (pid=16, tid=40, 
mask=FF): Device or resource busy
Dec  6 10:58:17 callin vdr: [20844] ERROR: can't set filter (pid=0, tid=00, 
mask=FF): Device or resource busy

There seems to be the same repeating pid/tid numbers:
pid=16, tid=40
pid=0, tid=00
pid=17, tid=42
pid=18, tid=60
pid=20, tid=70
pid=18, tid=4E
pid=18, tid=50

I have FF-2300  and budget C1500 TTcards.  It seems to be affecting both. 
Symptoms are intermittant no lock on channels?

Any ideas what this is?? 


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Re: [vdr] Switching time

2008-12-05 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Morfsta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Alex Betis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2 channels on the same transponder - about 2 seconds - video and sound
 playing right after the switch.
 2 channels on different transponders - about 4 seconds - sound is playing
 right after the switch, image is shown, but start moving about 1 more second
 later.

 Sounds long, I can channel change on DVB-T and DVB-S almost instantaneously.

 You can normally fix this by recompiling your kernel with low latency
 settings (timer frequency, kernel queuing methods etc) - normally
 selecting the best settings for a desktop helps.

I agree.  My channel changes are about 1 second regardless if I'm
switching on different transponders or lnbs.

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Re: [vdr] Switching time

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Betis
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:58 AM, VDR User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Morfsta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Alex Betis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  2 channels on the same transponder - about 2 seconds - video and sound
  playing right after the switch.
  2 channels on different transponders - about 4 seconds - sound is
 playing
  right after the switch, image is shown, but start moving about 1 more
 second
  later.
 
  Sounds long, I can channel change on DVB-T and DVB-S almost
 instantaneously.
 
  You can normally fix this by recompiling your kernel with low latency
  settings (timer frequency, kernel queuing methods etc) - normally
  selecting the best settings for a desktop helps.

 I agree.  My channel changes are about 1 second regardless if I'm
 switching on different transponders or lnbs.

You're saying that kernel provided by distributors (Fedora 10 in my case) is
not tuned for desktops?
Interesting... Will try that after I'll try moving back to 1.7.0.

Thanks.




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