Re: [vdr] VDR deletes directories

2006-10-22 Thread Johannes Schoeller

hi klaus

i run a plain-vanilla vdr (1.4.3) now and all those empty directories 
are gone. so it's definetly NO BUG in vdr. i assume it's bigpatch's 
fault. :(


regards hannes

Johannes Schoeller wrote:

Matthias Fechner wrote:

Hi,

I have the problem that VDR deletes directories in my /video0 or
/video1 ... which not belongs to VDR.

I use vdrconvert to convert my VDR recordings to DVDs so I have a
directory /video1/filme which VDR deletes and vdrconvert breaks.

Is it possible to deny the delete of this directory?

(vdr is running as root here)

Best regards,
Matthias


i wish vdr would delete .del directories ;)
here it doesn't clean up emtpy directories. never found out why. so i
made a cronjob that does that for me ...

regards hannes

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Re: [vdr] FF card A/V sync suggestion

2006-10-22 Thread Udo Richter

C.Y.M wrote:

mplayer -vo mpegpes -ao mpegpes -framedrop -cache 4096 -slave -nolirc -quiet 
001.vdr

Notice that -framedrop is added to the command line.  I wonder if that is the
reason why mplayer is immune to the a/v desync problem.


Definitely not just that. My playback issue already disappears when 
using the most simple command line: mplayer -vo mpegpes -ao mpegpes 001.vdr.


And just for completeness: No serious CPU load when playing back with 
VDR or mplayer.


Cheers,

Udo

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Re: [vdr] FF card A/V sync suggestion

2006-10-22 Thread Udo Richter

Morfsta wrote:
Certainly I think the problem is that VDR is not properly doing sync, 


In a way, I agree. VDR does not sync at all. Never.

Simplified, here's what the VDR playback really does:

- Read data from file in frame-sized chunks into read buffers
- If the DVB driver accepts data, read a frame from buffers
- Filter the PES packets for current video and audio track
- Write the packets into the DVB device.

Thats all. VDR just delivers the data stream as fast as the DVB device 
accepts it. The DVB devices do all the syncing and timing.


And thats why I think that this is a firmware issue, not a VDR issue, 
simply because VDR does almost nothing to the video.


Cheers,

Udo


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Re: [vdr] FF card A/V sync suggestion

2006-10-22 Thread Tero Siironen
On 21.10.2006 15.58, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Udo Richter wrote:
 Tero Siironen wrote:
 However, like Pasi Juppo told earlier in other thread, in last weeks episode
 of Lost there was many fadeout-fadeins between scenes and a/v desync
 happened on every one of these.
 
 I've 'heard of such problems' on ATV+ and Lost. Whenever there's a fade
 into black, the data stream seems to get stuck, frames get delayed, and
 as consequence A/V desyncs and playback gets jerky, with lots of audio
 and video frame drops. This can be fixed by pausing and jumping a few
 frames backwards.
 
 My theory is that since audio is typically 600ms ahead of video, maybe
 the audio buffers run over. Strange thing is why this happens
 reproducible on blackness. Maybe due to extremely low bit rate in this
 situation, more frames get packed into one data block, causing data flow
 to be disturbed beyond some limit. It cant be too high data rate, ATV+
 has just 2mbit avg, 4mbit max data rate.
 
 Does it also occur with the latest test firmware?
   http://www.suse.de/~werner/test_av-f22623.tar.bz2
 
 If yes, please provide short sample clips.
 Please verify that the clips are not damaged, i.e. they play fine with
 mplayer or xine.
 
 Oliver


Here is a 3 minute clip from the episode of Lost I told earlier.
http://kotisivu.suomi.net/izero/lost.tar

80MB file and played ok at least with VLC v 0.8.5. and MPlayer on OS X


-- 
Tero



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Re: [vdr] FF card A/V sync suggestion

2006-10-22 Thread Richard Scobie
Adding my 2 cents, in the hope that others more knowledgable may be able 
to reproduce the problem.


Using a Nexus S 2.1 with the latest beta firmware, I find I lose audio 
sync when doing multiple yellow button skips to jump through 
commercial breaks, where there is a 30-50% chance the audio will be out 
after this. Doing a green button skip backwards almost always corrects it.


Regards,

Richard

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Re: [vdr] FF card A/V sync suggestion

2006-10-22 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
The way I understand it, the shows are sent as mpeg2, VDR decodes to raw
data and stores as xxx.vdr files? which then need a special player that
dosn't seem to work correctly to play these now much larger files which eat
up a lot more space. So why not store them as mpeg files? A more common
format which seems to have more options to play back and which work better?
What format do DVD's use? What do you gain by converting to xxx.vdr aside
from not needing to decode on playback? Which would be an advantage if the
system worked and it didn't requre more complexities to convert back to mpeg
for recording to a dvd. Also mpeg is a lossy compression, so data is lost
converting back and forth.

- Original Message - 
From: C.Y.M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: VDR Mailing List vdr@linuxtv.org
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [vdr] FF card A/V sync suggestion


 Juri Haberland wrote:
  Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  C.Y.M wrote:
  Since it has been several years now and I have never been able to
solve the a/v
  desync issues with my Nexus-S FF card when playing back recordings...
  I'm replaying many recordings (actually most of what I watch
  are recordings ;-) and don't even remember when was the last
  time I had an A/V desync.
 


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Re: [vdr] FF card A/V sync suggestion

2006-10-22 Thread C.Y.M
Udo Richter wrote:
 C.Y.M wrote:
 mplayer -vo mpegpes -ao mpegpes -framedrop -cache 4096 -slave -nolirc
 -quiet 001.vdr

 Notice that -framedrop is added to the command line.  I wonder if
 that is the
 reason why mplayer is immune to the a/v desync problem.
 
 Definitely not just that. My playback issue already disappears when
 using the most simple command line: mplayer -vo mpegpes -ao mpegpes
 001.vdr.
 
 And just for completeness: No serious CPU load when playing back with
 VDR or mplayer.
 

Yes, if the extra CPU load by mplayer is not even noticeable when playing back
VDR recordings, and it is not prone to any type or desync, then I vote we all
try to figure out what mplayer is doing and repeat it. Whats a few extra CPU
cycles if it becomes much much more stable in the end.

Thanks everyone for chiming in on this one.  I really hope that this time we can
stop passing the buck and just git'r done. :)

Best Regards.

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Re: [vdr] FF card A/V sync suggestion

2006-10-22 Thread Torgeir Veimo


On 22 Oct 2006, at 22:56, C.Y.M wrote:


Torgeir Veimo wrote:


On 22 Oct 2006, at 22:33, C.Y.M wrote:



And just for completeness: No serious CPU load when playing back  
with

VDR or mplayer.



Yes, if the extra CPU load by mplayer is not even noticeable when
playing back
VDR recordings, and it is not prone to any type or desync, then I  
vote

we all
try to figure out what mplayer is doing and repeat it. Whats a few
extra CPU
cycles if it becomes much much more stable in the end.


The reason i mentioned the dvbplayer.c thread, is that this  
problem was
mitigated by using different code to feed the softdevice mpeg2  
decoder;

using softplay to playback recordings provided dropout free playback.
I'm not sure if softplay works with FF cards, but you might get the
source at softdevice.berlios.de to give it a try.



I use xine with my FF card and it works flawlessly and fixes all my  
problems,
but since I never had trouble with the FF card when just watching  
live TV, I
thought it was such a waste of CPU to have to use software decoding  
for
everything. I only have problems when playing back recordings with  
the FF card.


I wasn't talking about using different decoding software, I was  
talking about trying some other piece of code thant dvbplayer.c to  
read the recording from disk and feeding the hardware decoder. The  
softplay plugin is such a different playback mechanism (but I can't  
guarrantee that it works with an FF card). My thesis is that there  
are issues with dvbplayer.c, which only show under certain  
circumstances. One such ciscumstance is using a budget card with  
softdevice playback of recordings, and a powerfull cpu.


--
Torgeir Veimo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: [vdr] FF card A/V sync suggestion

2006-10-22 Thread matthieu castet

Hi,

Timothy D. Lenz wrote:

The way I understand it, the shows are sent as mpeg2, VDR decodes to raw
data and stores as xxx.vdr files

Now vdr file are raw data sent by the card : ie mpeg2.
Have you an idea of the size of uncompressed video ?


Matthieu

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[vdr] desperated with vdr-burn

2006-10-22 Thread Leo Márquez

Hi,

Finally I'm desperated with vdr-burn. Few days ago I exposed my problem 
but seems that I'm the one person that experience it.

The problem is boost related:

terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::io::too_many_args'
what():  boost::too_many_args: format-string refered to less arguments 
than were passed

Avortat

I have tried the libboost debian package and the boost-for-burn that 
readme says.


Is there any boost expert that can explain my problem? I can't believe 
that anyone known this problem.


I have recompiled vdr and plugins many times. I'm desperated with this 
problem amb my hard disk is full.


my vdr is 1.4.3
burn is cvs (I have tried it with pre-20 and pre-21 versions)

Thanks for your help.



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Re: [vdr] FF card A/V sync suggestion

2006-10-22 Thread Torgeir Veimo


On 22 Oct 2006, at 22:33, C.Y.M wrote:



And just for completeness: No serious CPU load when playing back with
VDR or mplayer.



Yes, if the extra CPU load by mplayer is not even noticeable when  
playing back
VDR recordings, and it is not prone to any type or desync, then I  
vote we all
try to figure out what mplayer is doing and repeat it. Whats a few  
extra CPU

cycles if it becomes much much more stable in the end.


The reason i mentioned the dvbplayer.c thread, is that this problem  
was mitigated by using different code to feed the softdevice mpeg2  
decoder; using softplay to playback recordings provided dropout free  
playback. I'm not sure if softplay works with FF cards, but you might  
get the source at softdevice.berlios.de to give it a try.


--
Torgeir Veimo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: [vdr] FF card A/V sync suggestion

2006-10-22 Thread C.Y.M
Torgeir Veimo wrote:
 
 On 22 Oct 2006, at 22:33, C.Y.M wrote:
 

 And just for completeness: No serious CPU load when playing back with
 VDR or mplayer.


 Yes, if the extra CPU load by mplayer is not even noticeable when
 playing back
 VDR recordings, and it is not prone to any type or desync, then I vote
 we all
 try to figure out what mplayer is doing and repeat it. Whats a few
 extra CPU
 cycles if it becomes much much more stable in the end.
 
 The reason i mentioned the dvbplayer.c thread, is that this problem was
 mitigated by using different code to feed the softdevice mpeg2 decoder;
 using softplay to playback recordings provided dropout free playback.
 I'm not sure if softplay works with FF cards, but you might get the
 source at softdevice.berlios.de to give it a try.
 

I use xine with my FF card and it works flawlessly and fixes all my problems,
but since I never had trouble with the FF card when just watching live TV, I
thought it was such a waste of CPU to have to use software decoding for
everything. I only have problems when playing back recordings with the FF card.

Best Regards.


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Re: [vdr] desperated with vdr-burn

2006-10-22 Thread Tobias Grimm
Leo Márquez wrote:
 I'm using debian etch and always compile vdr and plugins myself.
 I see e-tobi is sarge.

I also have binaries for Sid so all source packages should compile on
Etch as well.

 is there any problem in compile vdr myself and install vdr plugins
 packages?

Probably not - but would have been easier to track down the problem, if
we were using exactly the same sources.


Tobias


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Re: [vdr] Can xineliboutput and dxr3 coexist?

2006-10-22 Thread Tony Houghton
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Glyn Edwards wrote:

  ISTR you can connect directly with MPlayer or Xine by streaming HTTP and
  part of the URL tells it which channel to select.
 True, but as far as I'm aware, you can't access recordings and FFwd and
 Rwd etc...

Both the above players can play vdr files. I mount my recordings
directory over NFS. You can jump forwards and backwards, so not being
able to ffwd or rew isn't too much of a problem. However, if you try to
seek with the arrow keys in xine it always jumps to the beginning.  The
progress bar still works properly though; you can drag it. Seeking with
the arrow or PgUp/Dn keys in MPlayer works, but the amount it jumps each
time is a bit hit  miss.

-- 
TH * http://www.realh.co.uk

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