Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
Am Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:43:06 +0100 schrieb Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de: On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 17:55 +, Tony Houghton wrote: ... + I originally set up the system as a diskless (nfsroot) system, but KDE 4 (I am using OpenSuSE 11.2) performs unbearably slow, so I was forced to install a hard disk. Couldn't you use a much lighter desktop if this is a PC especially for VDR? Running VDR is important, but not the only purpose. Surfing the internet, watching DVDs and BlueRays, etc. is a lot of fun on an HD beamer. :-) The desktop doesn't play DVDs or BlueRays. This is done by xineliboutput, xine and xbmc ... To start xbmc a lircrc skript for irexec would be enough. No need for a desktop. Gerald ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
2009/12/25 Gerald Dachs v...@dachsweb.de Am Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:43:06 +0100 schrieb Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de: On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 17:55 +, Tony Houghton wrote: ... + I originally set up the system as a diskless (nfsroot) system, but KDE 4 (I am using OpenSuSE 11.2) performs unbearably slow, so I was forced to install a hard disk. Couldn't you use a much lighter desktop if this is a PC especially for VDR? Running VDR is important, but not the only purpose. Surfing the internet, watching DVDs and BlueRays, etc. is a lot of fun on an HD beamer. :-) The desktop doesn't play DVDs or BlueRays. This is done by xineliboutput, xine and xbmc ... To start xbmc a lircrc skript for irexec would be enough. No need for a desktop. Indeed, the only two applications running on desktop side would be X and the application which is your frontend, either xine or xineliboutput. xineliboutput does have the advantage that it has a media menu built-in for alternative media. It can do things like watch dvd/iso/pictures/music/blu-ray/avi/wmv. The latest snapshot supports cropping when xineliboutput was set to use video vdpau. And you already have a nvidia machine. Gerald ___ ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:12:56 +0100 Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de wrote: + I originally set up the system as a diskless (nfsroot) system, but KDE 4 (I am using OpenSuSE 11.2) performs unbearably slow, so I was forced to install a hard disk. Another idea: if there's a spare USB (2.0 High Speed) port you could use a memory stick instead of NFS. -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 13:02 +, Tony Houghton wrote: On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:12:56 +0100 Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de wrote: + I originally set up the system as a diskless (nfsroot) system, but KDE 4 (I am using OpenSuSE 11.2) performs unbearably slow, so I was forced to install a hard disk. Another idea: if there's a spare USB (2.0 High Speed) port you could use a memory stick instead of NFS. Good idea. I suppose this one http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a439283.html should be sufficient. I wonder if that's going to be faster (no seek times) or slower than my hard disk. The only remaining advantage of an nfsroot system being that I can turn the power off without needing to shut the system down. Carsten. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
What you could do is to make a boot process similar to most rescue or live-cd/usb. The idea is to make the whole thing run in ram, so boot by using network or memory stick, copy squashfs to ram and run from there. Should be lightning fast. 2009/12/25 Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de: On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 13:02 +, Tony Houghton wrote: On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:12:56 +0100 Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de wrote: + I originally set up the system as a diskless (nfsroot) system, but KDE 4 (I am using OpenSuSE 11.2) performs unbearably slow, so I was forced to install a hard disk. Another idea: if there's a spare USB (2.0 High Speed) port you could use a memory stick instead of NFS. Good idea. I suppose this one http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a439283.html should be sufficient. I wonder if that's going to be faster (no seek times) or slower than my hard disk. The only remaining advantage of an nfsroot system being that I can turn the power off without needing to shut the system down. Carsten. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Theunis Potgieter theunis.potgie...@gmail.com wrote: What you could do is to make a boot process similar to most rescue or live-cd/usb. The idea is to make the whole thing run in ram, so boot by using network or memory stick, copy squashfs to ram and run from there. Should be lightning fast. Do you have a howto for this? I would like to give it a try myself. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] Shutting a system down. (was: vdr shutdownskript - wrong time)
Am Donnerstag, den 24.12.2009, 20:00 -0800 schrieb VDR User: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Klaus Schmidinger klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote: At some point the shutdown mechanism apparently became rocket science and I decided to no longer touch it (especially since I don't even use it myself). ;) Personally I don't see any real reason to ever shut down/wakeup feature. Maybe that's useful for guys running VDR on laptops or old pc's that consume a lot of power(?). I only use VDR in my living room as my main tv/media source, and on a test box for messing around with but that's it. I don't actually watch tv on a computer monitor. Sorry, I do not get your reasoning. Do you mean if a system uses less than 5 – or a different number – watts it does not need to be shut down? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
2009/12/25 VDR User user@gmail.com: On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Theunis Potgieter theunis.potgie...@gmail.com wrote: What you could do is to make a boot process similar to most rescue or live-cd/usb. The idea is to make the whole thing run in ram, so boot by using network or memory stick, copy squashfs to ram and run from there. Should be lightning fast. Do you have a howto for this? I would like to give it a try myself. Google returned some results from this query: how to make a live usb run from ram http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-toram-how-to-make-ubuntu-boot-to-ram/ This is an idea, but with Linux there is no limits :) Good luck. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:23:26 -0800 VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Theunis Potgieter theunis.potgie...@gmail.com wrote: What you could do is to make a boot process similar to most rescue or live-cd/usb. The idea is to make the whole thing run in ram, so boot by using network or memory stick, copy squashfs to ram and run from there. Should be lightning fast. Do you have a howto for this? I would like to give it a try myself. The easiest starting point would be Debian Live http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ because it's designed to be customisable (so you can easily pre-install VDR etc, and hopefully easily get it to automount other filesystems eg NFS) and to search for another partition with a specific label on the stick to use as a writable home partition or even a writable root. -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:58:18 +0100 Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 13:02 +, Tony Houghton wrote: Another idea: if there's a spare USB (2.0 High Speed) port you could use a memory stick instead of NFS. Good idea. I suppose this one http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a439283.html should be sufficient. I wonder if that's going to be faster (no seek times) or slower than my hard disk. Read speeds should be at least acceptable on a modern device, but writing can still be quite slow. -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Shutting a system down. (was: vdr shutdownskript - wrong time)
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Paul Menzel paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 24.12.2009, 20:00 -0800 schrieb VDR User: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Klaus Schmidinger klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote: At some point the shutdown mechanism apparently became rocket science and I decided to no longer touch it (especially since I don't even use it myself). ;) Personally I don't see any real reason to ever shut down/wakeup feature. Maybe that's useful for guys running VDR on laptops or old pc's that consume a lot of power(?). I only use VDR in my living room as my main tv/media source, and on a test box for messing around with but that's it. I don't actually watch tv on a computer monitor. Sorry, I do not get your reasoning. Do you mean if a system uses less than 5 – or a different number – watts it does not need to be shut down? Whether or not to shut it down is completely the decision of the user. But for example there might be some guys worried about running their laptop battery down so they prefer to shut it down. Or some guy who is really concerned with his power usage in general and wants everything off if he isn't using it. However, in my case since VDR is my main tv/media source, it would be annoying to have to boot the computer every time someone wanted to watch/listen to something, therefore the box stays on 24/7. Thus, never having use for shutting down. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Shutting a system down.
Am Freitag, den 25.12.2009, 13:38 -0800 schrieb VDR User: […] However, in my case since VDR is my main tv/media source, it would be annoying to have to boot the computer every time someone wanted to watch/listen to something, therefore the box stays on 24/7. Thus, never having use for shutting down. Well, I guess energy prices are still too low. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Shutting a system down.
Paul Menzel wrote: Am Freitag, den 25.12.2009, 13:38 -0800 schrieb VDR User: […] However, in my case since VDR is my main tv/media source, it would be annoying to have to boot the computer every time someone wanted to watch/listen to something, therefore the box stays on 24/7. Thus, never having use for shutting down. Well, I guess energy prices are still too low. Really stupid comment, maybe you also believe that food is too cheap if people can afford to eat. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
