Re: [vdr] Linux in the living room

2010-02-23 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Dienstag, den 23.02.2010, 07:19 +0100 schrieb Stefan Hußfeldt:
 Oliver Endriss schrieb:
 
  I just checked my archives and found that VDR replaced my analogue SAT
  receiver around July 2002. From the beginning it was the most useful
  linux application I ever tried. And it is still the only one which made
  it into the living room.
 
 That's not true for me at all. My LCD TV is running Linux and has sshd, 
 ftpd, nfs, etc. ;)

Sounds great! What model is that?

 Of course VDR is running for a much longer time in the living room.

Does your LCD TV act directly as a VDR client too?


Thanks,

Paul




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Re: [vdr] Linux in the living room

2010-02-23 Thread Michael Reinelt


Paul Menzel schrieb:
 Am Dienstag, den 23.02.2010, 07:19 +0100 schrieb Stefan Hußfeldt:
 Oliver Endriss schrieb:

 I just checked my archives and found that VDR replaced my analogue SAT
 receiver around July 2002. From the beginning it was the most useful
 linux application I ever tried. And it is still the only one which made
 it into the living room.
 That's not true for me at all. My LCD TV is running Linux and has sshd, 
 ftpd, nfs, etc. ;)
 
 Sounds great! What model is that?

Hey, sounds very interesting to me, too.

Are there any features available beside doing a shutdown?


TIA, Michael

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Re: [vdr] Linux in the living room

2010-02-23 Thread Luca Olivetti

En/na Paul Menzel ha escrit:

Am Dienstag, den 23.02.2010, 07:19 +0100 schrieb Stefan Hußfeldt:

Oliver Endriss schrieb:


I just checked my archives and found that VDR replaced my analogue SAT
receiver around July 2002. From the beginning it was the most useful
linux application I ever tried. And it is still the only one which made
it into the living room.
That's not true for me at all. My LCD TV is running Linux and has sshd, 
ftpd, nfs, etc. ;)


Sounds great! What model is that?


Most (all?) modern tv sets from samsung, lg, panasonic, sharp (and 
probably philips) are running some form of Linux, but that's usually 
only the base operating system, the application controlling the tv and 
that's doing mostly everything is closed.
You can still do some interesting things just hacking the Linux base 
(e.g, if the tv can reproduce media from usb, you can fake an usb stick 
with an nfs mounted directory to media from the network), provided the 
manufacturer is friendly enough to the GPL and provides everything it 
is required to provide (I'm struggling with LG to get the sources 
corresponding to what's actually running on my TV, so if that's an 
important decision factor I'd avoid LG).
Samsung seems to be the most hacker friendly set, see 
http://samygo.sourceforge.net


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Re: [vdr] 10 Year Anniversary of VDR

2010-02-23 Thread Niels Wagenaar
Congratulations VDR, Klaus and every person who contributed to VDR in
any way possible!

I can honestly say that about 2 years ago I didn't use VDR, because I
thought it required a Full DVB card. But since I wanted to watch HDTV,
I decided to gamble and buy a HTPC instead. So that I could be more
flexible, it was cheaper then a dedicated HDTV receiver (which in
total costed me more then I anticipated, but hobby costs money anyway)
and it was more future proof. In the beginning I started using some
awkward Windows applications (MCE, Media portal, DVB Viewer Pro) and
Myth TV, but it wasn't quite what I wanted and I was planning to sell
my HTPC. Then I discovered that I could use VDR in combination with a
softdevice-plugin, I've never gone back to other options. Ok, I still
test some new hard- and software but still I keep coming back to VDR.
And yes, that's a major compliment :).

Regards,

Niels Wagenaar

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Klaus Schmidinger
klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote:

 It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally
 named OSM - On Screen Menu) was released.

 I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed
 to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life.
 I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special
 thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).

 Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th
 anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still
 on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)

 I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't
 want the date to pass by without a remark...

 Klaus

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Re: [vdr] Looking for new maintainer of scan-s2 application

2010-02-23 Thread Manu Abraham
Hello Alex,

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Alex Betis alex.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 I'm leaving the DVB-S world for now due to low available content in my area.
 Hence I will not be able to maintain anything related.

 Any one is willing to take the ownership of scan-s2 application?


Do you mind, if I pull scan-s2 into dvb-apps ?

Best Regards,
Manu

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Re: [vdr] Linux in the living room

2010-02-23 Thread Stefan Hußfeldt

Paul Menzel schrieb:

That's not true for me at all. My LCD TV is running Linux and has sshd, 
ftpd, nfs, etc. ;)


Sounds great! What model is that?


Luca has already given the correct link: http://samygo.sourceforge.net/
I'm running a LExxB750.


Of course VDR is running for a much longer time in the living room.

Does your LCD TV act directly as a VDR client too?


Unfortunately not. And for the moment i've connect the VDR only via 
Scart (FF) with the LCD...


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Re: [vdr] 10 Year Anniversary of VDR

2010-02-23 Thread Lucian Muresan
Congratulations Klaus, and also to the rest of contributors. Many
returns of such decade anniversaries! I'm also using it for almost 6
years, quite catching hobby!

On 19.02.2010 17:09, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
 It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally
 named OSM - On Screen Menu) was released.
 
 I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed
 to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life.
 I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special
 thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).
 
 Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th
 anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still
 on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)

Oh, and the following version ends in 13 ;-)

Best regards,
Lucian

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Re: [vdr] Linux in the living room

2010-02-23 Thread Lucian Muresan
On 23.02.2010 10:34, Luca Olivetti wrote:

 Most (all?) modern tv sets from samsung, lg, panasonic, sharp (and
 probably philips) are running some form of Linux, but that's usually
 only the base operating system, the application controlling the tv and
 that's doing mostly everything is closed.
 You can still do some interesting things just hacking the Linux base
 (e.g, if the tv can reproduce media from usb, you can fake an usb stick
 with an nfs mounted directory to media from the network), provided the
 manufacturer is friendly enough to the GPL and provides everything it

 is required to provide (I'm struggling with LG to get the sources
 corresponding to what's actually running on my TV, so if that's an
 important decision factor I'd avoid LG).

Any reaction at all, from LG?

Lucian

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Re: [vdr] 10 Year Anniversary of VDR

2010-02-23 Thread István Füley

Happy Birthday, VDR :)

VDR is the only software in my house which runs 24/24 about 5 years ago.

Thanks, and keep up the good work!

Füley István

Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally
named OSM - On Screen Menu) was released.

I want to use the occasion to thank everybody who has contributed
to VDR, but also those who simply use VDR in their every day life.
I for one couldn't imagine watching tv without VDR any more. Special
thanks go to the people running the VDR-Portal (www.vdr-portal.de).

Originally I intended to release version 2.0 of VDR at the 10th
anniversary, but as ever so often, I ran out of time. But I'm still
on it - stability comes before deadlines ;-)

I hope you don't think I'm blowing my own horn here, I just didn't
want the date to pass by without a remark...

Klaus

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[vdr] scan-s2 and dvb-apps

2010-02-23 Thread Manu Abraham
Hi All,

Recently, quite some people have been requesting for scan-s2 a simple
scan application which has been hacked on top of the scan application
as available in the dvb-apps tree, to be integrated/pulled in to the
dvb-apps tree, after it's author moved on to other arenas.

http://www.mail-archive.com/vdr@linuxtv.org/msg11125.html

The idea initially was to have a cloned copy of scan as scan-s2.
Now, on the other hand scan-s2 is much more like scan and similar
functionality wise too.

Considering the aspects, do you think, that it is worthwhile to have

a) the scan-s2 application and the scan application as well integrated
into the repository, such that they both live together

or

b) scan-s2 does things almost the same as scan2. scan can be replaced
by scan-s2.


What are your ideas/thoughts on this ?

Regards,
Manu

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Re: [vdr] scan-s2 and dvb-apps

2010-02-23 Thread abbe normal
hi manu

why would there have to be 2 scan packages couldnt there be one that
does the same for both types of devices... i would think dvb scan
should be able to do anything dvb not just s2 or s or is it asking to
much from it...

abbe

On 2/23/10, Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 Recently, quite some people have been requesting for scan-s2 a simple
 scan application which has been hacked on top of the scan application
 as available in the dvb-apps tree, to be integrated/pulled in to the
 dvb-apps tree, after it's author moved on to other arenas.

 http://www.mail-archive.com/vdr@linuxtv.org/msg11125.html

 The idea initially was to have a cloned copy of scan as scan-s2.
 Now, on the other hand scan-s2 is much more like scan and similar
 functionality wise too.

 Considering the aspects, do you think, that it is worthwhile to have

 a) the scan-s2 application and the scan application as well integrated
 into the repository, such that they both live together

 or

 b) scan-s2 does things almost the same as scan2. scan can be replaced
 by scan-s2.


 What are your ideas/thoughts on this ?

 Regards,
 Manu

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Re: [vdr] scan-s2 and dvb-apps

2010-02-23 Thread Manu Abraham
Hi Abbe,

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:30 PM, abbe normal 1abenor...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi manu

 why would there have to be 2 scan packages couldnt there be one that
 does the same for both types of devices... i would think dvb scan
 should be able to do anything dvb not just s2 or s or is it asking to
 much from it...

 abbe

scan does scan of dvb channels as you are aware of.

scan-s2 original commit seems to be a derivative of scan, though it is
not incremental nor based on patches, but a dump of files instead.

This is the part that gave me headaches on how to get scan-s2 merged into scan.
I can't simply replace scan with scan-s2, because scan is even better
maintained.

The other case would be that both scan and scan-s2 would coexist,
being the last thing that I would do.

Regards,
Manu

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Re: [vdr] scan-s2 and dvb-apps

2010-02-23 Thread Alex Betis
scan-s2 was an evolution based on scan code.

I've added support for S2 API, some patches from other contributors, added
some switches that were requested by users and fixed some bugs.
The core wasn't changed too much.

I don't know how scan looks today, but if it wasn't totally rewritten, I
don't think it should be too complicate to merge between the 2 and have only
1 application.



On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Abbe,

 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:30 PM, abbe normal 1abenor...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi manu
 
  why would there have to be 2 scan packages couldnt there be one that
  does the same for both types of devices... i would think dvb scan
  should be able to do anything dvb not just s2 or s or is it asking to
  much from it...
 
  abbe

 scan does scan of dvb channels as you are aware of.

 scan-s2 original commit seems to be a derivative of scan, though it is
 not incremental nor based on patches, but a dump of files instead.

 This is the part that gave me headaches on how to get scan-s2 merged into
 scan.
 I can't simply replace scan with scan-s2, because scan is even better
 maintained.

 The other case would be that both scan and scan-s2 would coexist,
 being the last thing that I would do.

 Regards,
 Manu

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Re: [vdr] 10 Year Anniversary of VDR

2010-02-23 Thread Michael Reinelt
Happy Birthday, VDR!

running it 24/7 on a diskless nfsroot system for 7 years now.

apart from a defect motherboard, no downtime.

unbeatable WAF.

sometimes even I forget that its a PC, it's linux, its VDR, its OSS

it just works


I couldn't imagine watching TV on something other than VDR. I regularly get 
angry when spending the night in a hotel,
watching TV, pressing OK and no EPG shows up ;-)


Thanks you Klaus, and thanks to all contributors!

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Re: [vdr] Linux in the living room

2010-02-23 Thread VDR User
Although this thread seems to have become about tv firmware hacking, I
also have dedicated VDR boxes for both my upstairs and downstairs
living rooms.  Upstairs is only connected via HDMI cable while the pc
is located in my office.  Downstairs is running on a Nvidia ION
system, again connected with HDMI.  Both are controlled with ssh from
my main desktop and latop.  Neither have a keyboard/mouse/monitor
plugged in since their only function is to run VDR -- a remote control
is enough.

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Re: [vdr] Linux in the living room

2010-02-23 Thread Luca Olivetti

En/na Lucian Muresan ha escrit:


is required to provide (I'm struggling with LG to get the sources
corresponding to what's actually running on my TV, so if that's an
important decision factor I'd avoid LG).


Any reaction at all, from LG?


At first they were quick to answer and to provide the sources, but when 
I found out that I couldn't regenerate the same kernel that's running on 
the tv, that they didn't provide any official means to upload the 
hacked firmware (unofficially I know how to to it, but that's not the 
point) and that they don't provide the binary object of the main program 
 (it's statically linked to uClibc, so to be compliant with the LGPL 
they have to provide that object) they stopped replying to my messages 
(that were also CCed to the gpl violations mailing list).
I've been waiting for more than a month for the reply that still hasn't 
come.


Bye
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[vdr] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1

2010-02-23 Thread Josce

vdr-1.7.12 + reelbox + 2 Anysee E30C USB devices

Sadly quite often my vdr stops working, with the following error:

localhost vdr: [2626] buffer usage: 70% (tid=2625)
localhost vdr: [2626] buffer usage: 80% (tid=2625)
localhost vdr: [2626] buffer usage: 90% (tid=2625)
localhost vdr: [2626] buffer usage: 100% (tid=2625)
localhost vdr: [2626] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1
localhost vdr: [2626] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 
(repeated over and over again)


Just killing vdr and reloading the DVB driver doesn't fix this. I have 
to reboot the machine to get everything working again. Now I was 
wondering, when this happens how can I make vdr exit with say exit code 
9, so that I can make the runvdr reboot the machine.


Thanks,

Josce

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[vdr] log of diseqc commands (rotor plugin)

2010-02-23 Thread Goga777
Hi

does it possible to log the  diseqc command from rotor plugin ?


Goga

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Re: [vdr] log of diseqc commands (rotor plugin)

2010-02-23 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Goga777 goga...@bk.ru wrote:
 Hi

 does it possible to log the  diseqc command from rotor plugin ?

Why wouldn't it be possible?  Just add some isyslog's in the code.

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Re: [vdr] log of diseqc commands (rotor plugin)

2010-02-23 Thread Goga777
  does it possible to log the  diseqc command from rotor plugin ?
 
 Why wouldn't it be possible?  Just add some isyslog's in the code.


would you please send the patch for it 


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Re: [vdr] 10 Year Anniversary of VDR

2010-02-23 Thread elimodel

Klaus Schmidinger ha scritto:

It has been exactly 10 years since version 0.01 of VDR (originally
named OSM - On Screen Menu) was released.

  
Klaus


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thanks, klaus, many thanks, but not only for your great software, that 
i've discovered only 9 mounth ago!

thanks for the time you spent on it!
thanks for let me know a new world, and a great comunity!
thanks for pushing me to study c++, if i will to make some plugin i must 
study before!
thanks to everyone who contribute to develope the plugin, the patch, and 
the translation too!




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Re: [vdr] OT: Applications for the living room

2010-02-23 Thread Oliver Endriss
Paul Menzel wrote:
  I just checked my archives and found that VDR replaced my analogue SAT
  receiver around July 2002. From the beginning it was the most useful
  linux application I ever tried. And it is still the only one which made
  it into the living room.
 
 Just out of curiosity, what other applications do you use in your living
 room? And do you have different system or just one on which virtual
 machines are running?

The VDR machine is the only PC-like hardware in the living-room.
It is based on old PIII 800 MHz hardware, and it runs rock-stable.
:-)

It will not be replaced before the HDTV VDR is mature. The biggest
problem is that my eyes do not like the picture quality of current LCDs.

Of course, there is more PC hardware outside of the living-room
(server, workstations).

CU
Oliver

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Re: [vdr] OT: Applications for the living room

2010-02-23 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Oliver Endriss o.endr...@gmx.de wrote:
 It will not be replaced before the HDTV VDR is mature. The biggest
 problem is that my eyes do not like the picture quality of current LCDs.

Just curious what you think VDR lacks or is unstable in regarding
hdtv?  The only current problems I'm aware of are:

- Xine will freeze when you are rewinding a VDR recording and then
press play or right-arrow for example, but this is a bug in xine, not
VDR.

- VDR reporting incorrect runtime in h264 recordings.  Klaus has
worked on this and it's _much_ better now.  If the runtime is
incorrect, it's usually only off by up to +10 minutes or so, not
several hours as it used to be.

- Some people have problems playing VDR recordings in other players
outside of VDR but again, not really a bug in VDR since VDR recordings
are intended to be played within VDR.

Maybe there are other issues but I don't know about them.  The one
that actually is an issue with VDR (incorrect runtimes), isn't even
significant.

Cheers

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Re: [vdr] OT: Applications for the living room

2010-02-23 Thread Torgeir Veimo
On 24 February 2010 11:06, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Oliver Endriss o.endr...@gmx.de wrote:
 It will not be replaced before the HDTV VDR is mature. The biggest
 problem is that my eyes do not like the picture quality of current LCDs.

 Just curious what you think VDR lacks or is unstable in regarding
 hdtv?  The only current problems I'm aware of are:

When using xineliboutput with vdpau, on channel change there's a pause
in the playback after a second. This is very annoying when
channelsurfing.


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Re: [vdr] OT: Applications for the living room

2010-02-23 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Torgeir Veimo torg...@netenviron.com wrote:
 On 24 February 2010 11:06, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Oliver Endriss o.endr...@gmx.de wrote:
 It will not be replaced before the HDTV VDR is mature. The biggest
 problem is that my eyes do not like the picture quality of current LCDs.

 Just curious what you think VDR lacks or is unstable in regarding
 hdtv?  The only current problems I'm aware of are:

 When using xineliboutput with vdpau, on channel change there's a pause
 in the playback after a second. This is very annoying when
 channelsurfing.

Are you sure that's not a xineliboutput problem and not VDR?

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Re: [vdr] OT: Applications for the living room

2010-02-23 Thread Torgeir Veimo
On 24 February 2010 14:30, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Torgeir Veimo torg...@netenviron.com wrote:
 On 24 February 2010 11:06, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Oliver Endriss o.endr...@gmx.de wrote:
 It will not be replaced before the HDTV VDR is mature. The biggest
 problem is that my eyes do not like the picture quality of current LCDs.

 Just curious what you think VDR lacks or is unstable in regarding
 hdtv?  The only current problems I'm aware of are:

 When using xineliboutput with vdpau, on channel change there's a pause
 in the playback after a second. This is very annoying when
 channelsurfing.

 Are you sure that's not a xineliboutput problem and not VDR?

True it's a problem with xineliboutput, but VDR is useless for HD
without any HD output device, and xineliboutput is by far the most
used one. Talking about VDR HD completeness without considering it is
wrong IMHO.

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Re: [vdr] OT: Applications for the living room

2010-02-23 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Torgeir Veimo torg...@netenviron.com wrote:
 True it's a problem with xineliboutput, but VDR is useless for HD
 without any HD output device, and xineliboutput is by far the most
 used one. Talking about VDR HD completeness without considering it is
 wrong IMHO.

I'm not convinced xineliboutput is the most used output by far, or
even at all.  Of the VDR users I talk to, vdr-xine is the easy
majority.  But regardless what's used, I don't think it's fair to say
VDR isn't fully ready for HD when it's the output devices that are the
problem.  I've only used vdr-xine myself and can say it works great in
my experience.

Btw, there will always be a slight delay (which is hardware related)
when tuning.  However, it shouldn't be more then 1-2 seconds.  I hear
the mythtv guys are disgusted with their channel changing delays. ;)

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Re: [vdr] OT: Applications for the living room

2010-02-23 Thread Torgeir Veimo
On 24 February 2010 15:37, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Torgeir Veimo torg...@netenviron.com wrote:
 True it's a problem with xineliboutput, but VDR is useless for HD
 without any HD output device, and xineliboutput is by far the most
 used one. Talking about VDR HD completeness without considering it is
 wrong IMHO.

 I'm not convinced xineliboutput is the most used output by far, or
 even at all.  Of the VDR users I talk to, vdr-xine is the easy
 majority.  But regardless what's used, I don't think it's fair to say
 VDR isn't fully ready for HD when it's the output devices that are the
 problem.  I've only used vdr-xine myself and can say it works great in
 my experience.

Ok, I don't claim to know usage figures. I still think output devices
needs to be taken into account when discussing VDR in a HD context.
Without output devices, VDR is much less usable.

 Btw, there will always be a slight delay (which is hardware related)
 when tuning.  However, it shouldn't be more then 1-2 seconds.

Channel change is fast, but it is as if xine after half a second after
normal playback
decides that it wants a larger buffer of frames, thus freezing
playback for half a second, before recovering.

I am not sure if it's due to underbuffering or audio sync.

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Re: [vdr] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1

2010-02-23 Thread Falk Spitzberg
Am Dienstag, den 23.02.2010, 20:49 +0200 schrieb Josce:
 vdr-1.7.12 + reelbox + 2 Anysee E30C USB devices
 
 Sadly quite often my vdr stops working, with the following error:
 
 localhost vdr: [2626] buffer usage: 70% (tid=2625)
 localhost vdr: [2626] buffer usage: 80% (tid=2625)
 localhost vdr: [2626] buffer usage: 90% (tid=2625)
 localhost vdr: [2626] buffer usage: 100% (tid=2625)
 localhost vdr: [2626] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1
 localhost vdr: [2626] ERROR: driver buffer overflow on device 1 
 (repeated over and over again)

Does it happen on all channels? I have the same problem, but only with
HD channels. When i switch to a different channel. the problem goes away
until it comes up after a while.

I assume that the hdplayer on the eHD card gets stuck.

 
 Just killing vdr and reloading the DVB driver doesn't fix this. I have 
 to reboot the machine to get everything working again. Now I was 
 wondering, when this happens how can I make vdr exit with say exit code 
 9, so that I can make the runvdr reboot the machine.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Josce
 
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Re: [vdr] OT: Applications for the living room

2010-02-23 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi,
the xineliboutput guys are doing a great job with the plugin and I am
almost hapy with it.

I think the better approach was the softdevice plugin which was more
easy to install and depends only on libavcodec.
The xinelib is a big library and many plugins and other output devices
etc are not needed for vdr output's.

Unfortunately softdevice development seems dead so i switched some
months ago to xineliboutput.

The problems:
- audio dropouts on radiochannels
- audiodropouts when changing audio track in vdr
- the remote frontend has to be started after vdr and refuses to start
  when vdr can't be found
- sometimes segfaults of sxfe when switching between hd/sd channels
- some dropouts after zapping (already mentioned in this thread).
...
I know that Petri is working hard to resolve problems in xineliboutput
so maybe we need more time to get a stable version of the plugin.

Last weekend i've also tried vdr-xine.
Compilation was ok but I wasn't able to run vdr -P xine
I don't see any error message vdr starts and exit's.
so I can't tell something about it so far.

BTW.: is there no need for softdevice?
BR.
Halim


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Re: [vdr] OT: Applications for the living room

2010-02-23 Thread Matthias Fechner

Hi,

Halim Sahin wrote:

Unfortunately softdevice development seems dead so i switched some
months ago to xineliboutput.
  
at first I would like to say thank you a lot to all VDR developer 
especially to Klaus!

VDR is a tool I cannot live without it.

I upgraded my xineliboutput this weekend to the current CVS version and 
there most of my problems are solved.
I can now move cutting marks, jumping around in a recording and resume 
works reliable.

Maybe you should try the CVS version it maybe fixes your problems, too.

Bye,
Matthias

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Re: [vdr] OT: Applications for the living room

2010-02-23 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi,
I am using the cvs version already.
You are right, the cuttingmark problem has been fixed.
But sometimes i see the broken behaviour when using the pc keyboard for
cutting and mooving marks quickly.
The other mentioned things are problems of the current cvs.

BR.
Halim


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