Re: [vdr] DVB API Wrapper for VDR 1.7.0
This patch will NOT prevent development of multiproto! DVB-S2 is here to stay and it is only being developed for multiproto. As well I've heard the kernel maintainers want multiproto asap. In the meantime there are some drivers which exist in v4l that people still need. I personally have a mixture of cards. Some need v4l, some need multiproto, some can use either tree. I appreciate the wrapper as I've been told directly that some drivers will not be updated for multiproto until multiproto is fully adopted! ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] DVB API Wrapper for VDR 1.7.0
Hy Look at reel vdr comunity, they implement more API in fronten.h to make use of their plugins and vdr. Use vdr-1.6.0 for old API is nothing new to vdr-1.7.0 beside h264 and multiproto, and you think 150 is more, I think not. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] DVB API Wrapper for VDR 1.7.0
lucian orasanu wrote: > I dont understend why are you kep mantaining this > patch wen vdr-1.7.0 and all plugins should be evolving > on multiproto. Stop releasing this patch, keep it for you!! I think that there's a need for it. In my opinion something like VDR should work on any stable Linux distribution without requiring special kernels and drivers to be installed. I know that the goal is to push multiproto development, but intentionally forcing incompatibility to enforce people to upgrade their systems is not really typical for open source OSes, is it? Lets do some optimistic timeline estimations: Multiproto is currently a fork of the off-kernel DVB drivers. Lets assume another half year til this is part of the main DVB drivers. Another half year to get it into stable kernels. This will surely be too late for Debain/Lenny for example, and VDR will not run on native Debian/Stable before around 2011. This also means no more official Debian VDR packages newer than VDR 1.6.x until then. Driver development will be pushed anyway, as DVB-S2 users need them. And there will be lots of them soon. But why force frequent kernel and driver updates to DVB-S/C/T users and even pure streaming clients, if they don't really need them? VDR and plugins continue to evolve to multiproto anyway, the wrapper doesn't turn back time: VDR continues to internally use multiproto, the wrapper provides a 'fake' multiproto driver. And the new runtime detecting even allows transition: Just use the normal VDR binary package together with new drivers, and S2 works right out of the box! Fully support bleeding edge technology without spoiling old users! There's no way to make the switch to HD any easier than that. Cheers, Udo PS: 151 downloads of API wrapper 0.3, and 19 downloads of API wrapper 0.4 in the last 15 -mostly night- hours. No need for it? ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] DVB API Wrapper for VDR 1.7.0
Hi, Thanks Udo for this patch. The threadstarter can resend his message if multiproto driver is merged to official linux kernel and linux-dvb. Currently this patch is really useful. Regards. Halim ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] DVB API Wrapper for VDR 1.7.0
Hy. I dont understend why are you kep mantaining this patch wen vdr-1.7.0 and all plugins should be evolving on multiproto. Stop releasing this patch, keep it for you!! ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] DVB API Wrapper for VDR 1.7.0
Hi list, There's a new version of the DVB API wrapper patch. The new version is compatible to the current multiproto drivers, and wraps the DVBFE_SET_DELSYS call. The new version is based on the vdr-1.7.0-multiproto-update.diff, and probably works also with the vdr-1.7.0-h264-diff.bz2 patch, both from Reinhard Nissl. Chances are good that the patch will work with next VDR-1.7.1 too. The new version also introduces a new runtime detection feature: By default, builds will detect at runtime whether the driver supports multiproto, and will either use native multiproto drivers or the old API wrapper. Behavior can be configured in Make.config: DEFINES += -DDVB_MULTIPROTO_RUNTIME=1 enables the runtime detection (default) DEFINES += -DDVB_MULTIPROTO_RUNTIME=0 disables the runtime detection DEFINES += -DDVB_MULTIPROTO_WRAPPER=1 enables the API wrapper (default on old DVB headers and if runtime detection is enabled) DEFINES += -DDVB_MULTIPROTO_WRAPPER=0 disables wrapper and runtime detection. Can be used to compile multiproto without proper DVB headers. (default on new DVB headers and runtime detection disabled) Much of it is not completely tested, so reports are welcome. Get it: http://www.udo-richter.de/vdr/patches.en.html#dvb-api-wrapper http://www.udo-richter.de/vdr/patches.html#dvb-api-wrapper Cheers, Udo ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] DVB API Wrapper for VDR 1.7.0
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> The new version also fixes a bug with the default DVBFE_MOD_AUTO >> modulation on DVB-S. > > Is this fix also relevant for the original VDR 1.7.0? No, its just a wrapper bug: After importing a DVB-S channels.conf from 1.6.0, VDR uses DVBFE_MOD_AUTO as modulation, and after the next channel update, VDR uses DVBFE_MOD_QPSK. Previous versions of the patch did not accept AUTO. > BTW: just curious, but what exactly is the reason for this "API wrapper"? > Shouldn't we rather encourage people to switch to the multiproto driver? > After all, I did release a stable version 1.6 for those who don't want to > (or can't) switch to the multiproto driver. Now we're at a new *developer* > version, which should *focus* on making the switch to multiproto. VDR 1.7 can (and will) enforce the multiproto development, and thats ok. The DVB-S2 movement alone will make sure that multiproto won't get stuck for long. I made the patch mainly for personal reasons: I'm running a VDR binary currently on 4 different systems, a 5'th is in planning. I'm not really interested in building kernels and drivers for all of them, and probably having to update these often too. (One is a Knoppix base, replacing the kernel wouldn't even be easy.) Also, I'm not sure what will happen first: All distributions using stock kernels with multiproto support by default, or VDR 1.8.0 being ready. In the end, it might be necessary to have fallback support anyway, at least for distribution packages. And wrapping these few ioctl calls isn't that difficult. Cheers, Udo ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] DVB API Wrapper for VDR 1.7.0
On 04/13/08 23:06, Udo Richter wrote: > Hi list, > > > There's a new version of the DVB API wrapper patch that adds fallback > compatibility to the current stable DVB API without multiproto support. > > The new version also fixes a bug with the default DVBFE_MOD_AUTO > modulation on DVB-S. Is this fix also relevant for the original VDR 1.7.0? BTW: just curious, but what exactly is the reason for this "API wrapper"? Shouldn't we rather encourage people to switch to the multiproto driver? After all, I did release a stable version 1.6 for those who don't want to (or can't) switch to the multiproto driver. Now we're at a new *developer* version, which should *focus* on making the switch to multiproto. Just my thoughts, no offense intended, and of course it's your decision to maintain such a patch ;-) Klaus > Also, the patch for VDR-1.5/1.6 that allows to read a channels.conf from > 1.7 is now available on that page. > > Support for DVBFE_SET_DELSYS will follow in next version. > > Get it: > http://www.udo-richter.de/vdr/patches.en.html#dvb-api-wrapper > http://www.udo-richter.de/vdr/patches.html#dvb-api-wrapper ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] DVB API Wrapper for VDR 1.7.0
Hi list, There's a new version of the DVB API wrapper patch that adds fallback compatibility to the current stable DVB API without multiproto support. The new version also fixes a bug with the default DVBFE_MOD_AUTO modulation on DVB-S. Also, the patch for VDR-1.5/1.6 that allows to read a channels.conf from 1.7 is now available on that page. Support for DVBFE_SET_DELSYS will follow in next version. Get it: http://www.udo-richter.de/vdr/patches.en.html#dvb-api-wrapper http://www.udo-richter.de/vdr/patches.html#dvb-api-wrapper Cheers, Udo ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
