Re: [vdr] TV channel logo collection - logo requests and illustrator/freehand help

2008-07-02 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Hanno Zulla wrote:
 The strategy is to ask for vector graphics logos and for permission to
 use them in OSD and EPG non-commercial open-source applications. This
 will make the collection versatile enough to be used beyond vdr, e.g for
 mythtv etc.

That 'non-commercial' restriction pretty much prevents plugins with
such logos to be included in Linux distributions though. At least it
makes the package non-free.

cu
Ludwig

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Re: [vdr] TV channel logo collection - logo requests and illustrator/freehand help

2008-07-02 Thread Hanno Zulla
Hi,

 That 'non-commercial' restriction pretty much prevents plugins with
 such logos to be included in Linux distributions though. At least it
 makes the package non-free.

That's fine by me.

A non-free collection with permission by the logo owners would be a
major improvement over the current logo collection, which isn't just
outdated, but also utterly illegal by any standard.

However, I experience the drag of discussing this with logo owners right
now. The ZDF just declined and the BR (which is a reference client of
xeatre.tv, to boot!) is also a tough one so far.

And if my collection turns out to be complete, I'll be co-responsible
when someone abuses it. Oh, don't we all love legal matters?

Regards,

Hanno

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[vdr] TV channel logo collection - logo requests and illustrator/freehand help

2008-06-26 Thread Hanno Zulla
Hi,

the TV channel logo graphics collection installed on my vdr has about
650 logos, many of them out of date, some of them in bad shape.

So it might be a good idea to update the collection.

Asking my lawyer confirmed that distributing TV channel logo graphics
for open source software is problematic: You shouldn't do this unless
you have written permission by the logos' owners.

Much to my surprise, /if/ you ask them and explain the specific purpose,
the logo owners /do/ grant permission to distribute their logo graphics
for use in non-commercial open-source software.

So far, noone turned down the request and I have collected a critical
mass of logos within a few days:

http://www.linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/index.php/Logo_Collection

I will continue to ask those German TV and radio stations in my
channel.conf, but help for other countries would be welcome.

Please contact me before you ask your local stations, so that they don't
get asked twice. (Oh, and don't bother asking pay TV stations that do
not permit pvr use such as German Premiere.)


The strategy is to ask for vector graphics logos and for permission to
use them in OSD and EPG non-commercial open-source applications. This
will make the collection versatile enough to be used beyond vdr, e.g for
mythtv etc.

However, vector graphics files means Illustrator, Freehand or EPS. What
I need is SVG. For many of the files of the collection, Inkscape or
pstoedit fail to open them.

It'd be nice if a user of illustrator or freehand could help. It
shouldn't be more work than simple conversion of files to .svg or to
clean .eps every now and then, so that I can edit those files in
Inkscape later.

(Yes, I know that there are SVG logo files on Wikipedia. However, those
logos were drawn and contributed by users and some of them are not true
to the original logo.)

Thanks,

Hanno

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