[vdr] anyone using Technotrend Premium S2300 (Rev 2.3) modded

2006-08-24 Thread Simon Baxter
Hi.

I'm looking at getting the following from dvbshop.net

Technotrend Remotecontrol SET
Technotrend Technotrend Dual Tuner Package (Technotrend Premium S2300 (Rev
2.3) modded)
RGB/S-Video J2 Extension for Technotrend Premium (for component/RGB-out)

Has anyone got any advice on getting this working with VDR?

I've been using VDR with budget cards for a few years with vdr-xine.  This
will be my first FF with an MPEG decoder - any problems/advice on the
quality of the RGB-out?




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Re: [vdr] anyone using Technotrend Premium S2300 (Rev 2.3) modded

2006-08-24 Thread Dave
Simon Baxter wrote:
 Hi.

 I'm looking at getting the following from dvbshop.net

 Technotrend Remotecontrol SET
 Technotrend Technotrend Dual Tuner Package (Technotrend Premium S2300 
 (Rev
 2.3) modded)
 RGB/S-Video J2 Extension for Technotrend Premium (for component/RGB-out)

 Has anyone got any advice on getting this working with VDR?

 I've been using VDR with budget cards for a few years with vdr-xine.  This
 will be my first FF with an MPEG decoder - any problems/advice on the
 quality of the RGB-out?
 

 Also, will this card support HD ok??? 



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That card works fine, in fact its recommended by many vdr users. Here is
the scoop.

The card does NOT do HDTV decoding in hardware.  It will do it in
software assuming the modulation is QPSK, (it does NOT support 8PSK
commonly used for HDTV at least here)  The card is used like a budget
card if you are doing HDTV.

The j2 mod on that board is done incorrectly.  It does NOT have the
proper circuitry to work out of the box, (It does NOT do component,
only RGB).  It is NOT terminated properly.  It does post a risk of
damaging the card if things are incorrectly wired.  Correctly wired and
terminated the RGB out works excellent.

Any other questions?





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Re: [vdr] anyone using Technotrend Premium S2300 (Rev 2.3) modded

2006-08-24 Thread Dave
Simon Baxter wrote:
 That card works fine, in fact its recommended by many vdr users. Here is
 the scoop.

 The card does NOT do HDTV decoding in hardware.  It will do it in
 software assuming the modulation is QPSK, (it does NOT support 8PSK
 commonly used for HDTV at least here)  The card is used like a budget
 card if you are doing HDTV.

 The j2 mod on that board is done incorrectly.  It does NOT have the
 proper circuitry to work out of the box, (It does NOT do component,
 only RGB).  It is NOT terminated properly.  It does post a risk of
 damaging the card if things are incorrectly wired.  Correctly wired and
 terminated the RGB out works excellent.

 Any other questions?
 

 I'm confused.  I thought component video was RGB?  s-video uses luminance 
 and chrominance, component uses RGB - am I wrong?
   

Component video is color difference,  S video is very similar to
component, as there is a Y(luminance) but there are 2 color signals
instead of one (R and B), the difference between R and B, makes G.  
RGB contains much more video bandwidth then component video.  Svideo
cannot handle HDTV, Component and RGB can.

 The SCART pinout says RED/Chroma pin 15, RED/Chroma GND pin 13, Green 
 pin 11, Green GND pin 9,  Blue pin 7, Blue GND pin 5.

 How do you go about terminating the RBG from J2 properly?  What can this be 
 connected to?
   

Usually you need the filters and the termination resistors, and
depending on where you live, RGB devices may or may not be common.
(Think SCART)

 So the tuner will tune QPSK HDTV channels, which can be recorded or 
 displayed with vdr-xine or softdevice, but the MPEG decoder won't output 
 them.  What's the best setup to use this then?  Do you run vdr-xine or 
 softdevice all the time and ignore the FF bit - to support TV and HDTV?  Or 
 just start vdr-xine when you tune to an HD channel?  What does the MPEG 
 decoder output when tuned to HDTV?
 Is there a better FF HDTV card with component/s-video MPEG decoder?


   

I have 3 DVB-s cards in one machine, 1 is a FF, the other 2 are budget. 
I run in softmode using softdevice 100% of the time.  Even though I
don't receive and HDTV at all, using the output of a VGA card into a LCD
projector produces a much better picture.

The advantage to the FF card, is that it will work in a slow computer as
the card does all the
work. 

Displaying HDTV will need a powerful computer.

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Re: [vdr] anyone using Technotrend Premium S2300 (Rev 2.3) modded

2006-08-24 Thread Simon Baxter
 I'm confused.  I thought component video was RGB?  s-video uses luminance
 and chrominance, component uses RGB - am I wrong?


 Component video is color difference,  S video is very similar to
 component, as there is a Y(luminance) but there are 2 color signals
 instead of one (R and B), the difference between R and B, makes G.
 RGB contains much more video bandwidth then component video.  Svideo
 cannot handle HDTV, Component and RGB can.

Makes sense.

 I have 3 DVB-s cards in one machine, 1 is a FF, the other 2 are budget.
 I run in softmode using softdevice 100% of the time.  Even though I
 don't receive and HDTV at all, using the output of a VGA card into a LCD
 projector produces a much better picture.

 The advantage to the FF card, is that it will work in a slow computer as
 the card does all the
 work.

and you should be able to get better startup times I guess.  I've been very 
impressed with the vdr-xine quality with DVB - except now I'm using 
pvr-input on a PVR-150.  This is only a temporary measure until I get all 
the bits to build a DVB-S system.

 Displaying HDTV will need a powerful computer.

I'm using a Shuttle PC with an s-video out.  Since this can't be used for 
HDTV, maybe I need to look at getting a TV with VGA input - or find an 
RGB/Component card and buy a budget DVB-S.  That leaves me with a PCI slot 
shortage.  Hmm, maybe I need to rethink all this

Thanks for your help, by the way 



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