Re: [vdr] ATSC Channel providers California

2011-06-23 Thread Simon Baxter

Have a look here:


http://www.silicondust.com/support/channels

Once you've selected your zip code, it will tell you what you have via 
ATSC over the air, and ATSC-Qam through your cable companies.


I have some scripts which use this to build a channels.conf if you'd 
like..


Any chance I could get hold of those scripts to build channels.conf?

I'm now in Portland Oregon, zip 97224


Thanks
Simon


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Re: [vdr] ATSC Channel providers California (now OREGON

2011-04-14 Thread Rob Davis

On 4/9/2011 8:52 PM, Simon Baxter wrote:



From what I've read Comcast uses two levels of encryption, a basic one
for tier one channels (extended basic in marketing terms) then a 
more comprehensive key encryption for their digital preferred channels.


I use a combination of two set top boxes, a PVR HD for HD channels 
and a PVR500 for SD channels, and two Clear Qam adapters for locals.


The Clear Qam are very good quality MPEG 2 HD or SD streams with AC3 
audio, the PVR500 is reasonable, but one my boxes has interference 
on the svideo output.


The HD-PVR is really good, giving an H264 with AC-3 passthrough TS 
stream. However, every now and then the cable box glitches and the 
HD-PVR stops streaming.  PVRInput isn't aware (yet - although Lars 
is looking into it) that it's not sending anything to VDR.  This is 
a problem when recording as VDR restarts, if I'm doing concurrent 
recordings then I lose bits of other recording during this time.  As 
an aside, AC-3 is passed through from the original ATSC-QAM stream, 
I had to patch VDR again to stop checking for ATSC on Audio Type 
0x81 or VDR would ignore the audio dpid of the channel and set it to 
0.  This also had to be done for the VNSI plugin in XBMC-PVR.


I really want to thank Lars for teaching me about TS streams..


New question - what hardware support is there for VDR and ATSC?  I'm 
moving
to the US, so will be ditching my DVB-C and DVB-S hardware - what 
should I

be buying to work with VDR?


I would wait until you get here and then spend a week asking people.  I 
use Comcast at home but have been thinking of switching to Dish as I 
thought it was supported better with VDR:  However, you have to jump 
through so many hoops now to get it working, it might not be worth it.


You could find just using OTA ATSC is good enough and then get Netflix 
working (alas not in VDR without a bit of hacking and a spare windows 
PC).  Netflix has huge back catalogs of stuff which more than makes up 
for cable.


Any Hauppauge ATSC card will work with Linux either as a PCI or PCI-E.  
However, there is a minor glitch with the usb cards where they can 
refuse to sync on a station without unplugging and replugging.


Some comcast boxes have firewire output.  You can change the channel and 
get SD and HD out of these, and the IPTV plugin can be made to work with 
them.  However, no decrytion can be done with Linux yet (without severe 
hoop jumping - read resoldering the motherboard of your sat box to find 
the box id). IMHO it's better you use an analog input stream.


If you can leave a VDR box back home then you can streamdev it to get 
home TV in the US, something that we would have liked to have done..


Rob

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Re: [vdr] ATSC Channel providers California (now OREGON

2011-04-09 Thread Simon Baxter



From what I've read Comcast uses two levels of encryption, a basic one
for tier one channels (extended basic in marketing terms) then a more 
comprehensive key encryption for their digital preferred channels.


I use a combination of two set top boxes, a PVR HD for HD channels and a 
PVR500 for SD channels, and two Clear Qam adapters for locals.


The Clear Qam are very good quality MPEG 2 HD or SD streams with AC3 
audio, the PVR500 is reasonable, but one my boxes has interference on the 
svideo output.


The HD-PVR is really good, giving an H264 with AC-3 passthrough TS 
stream. However, every now and then the cable box glitches and the HD-PVR 
stops streaming.  PVRInput isn't aware (yet - although Lars is looking 
into it) that it's not sending anything to VDR.  This is a problem when 
recording as VDR restarts, if I'm doing concurrent recordings then I lose 
bits of other recording during this time.  As an aside, AC-3 is passed 
through from the original ATSC-QAM stream, I had to patch VDR again to 
stop checking for ATSC on Audio Type 0x81 or VDR would ignore the audio 
dpid of the channel and set it to 0.  This also had to be done for the 
VNSI plugin in XBMC-PVR.


I really want to thank Lars for teaching me about TS streams..


New question - what hardware support is there for VDR and ATSC?  I'm moving
to the US, so will be ditching my DVB-C and DVB-S hardware - what should I
be buying to work with VDR?






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Re: [vdr] ATSC Channel providers California

2010-10-18 Thread Rob Davis

On 01/10/10 14:21, Simon Baxter wrote:



Is there a CI/CAM option with ATSC-QAM cards? Or are the cable network
encryption mechanisms proprietary (needing PVR with HDMI to get into VDR)?


As Thomas said, ATSC OTA is always free, however, CableCo's encrypt some 
of their channels.


I had to hack VDR to stop it from updating CAID as Comcast here put a 
CAID on channels that actually were FTA.  I also had to patch VDR to 
allow stream type 0x80 to actually be 0x02, (Mpeg) as my PBS stations 
were encoded with type 0x80, which meant VDR gave them a vpid of 0 and 
thought they were radio channels.


From what I've read Comcast uses two levels of encryption, a basic one 
for tier one channels (extended basic in marketing terms) then a more 
comprehensive key encryption for their digital preferred channels.


I use a combination of two set top boxes, a PVR HD for HD channels and a 
PVR500 for SD channels, and two Clear Qam adapters for locals.


The Clear Qam are very good quality MPEG 2 HD or SD streams with AC3 
audio, the PVR500 is reasonable, but one my boxes has interference on 
the svideo output.


The HD-PVR is really good, giving an H264 with AC-3 passthrough TS 
stream.  However, every now and then the cable box glitches and the 
HD-PVR stops streaming.  PVRInput isn't aware (yet - although Lars is 
looking into it) that it's not sending anything to VDR.  This is a 
problem when recording as VDR restarts, if I'm doing concurrent 
recordings then I lose bits of other recording during this time.  As an 
aside, AC-3 is passed through from the original ATSC-QAM stream, I had 
to patch VDR again to stop checking for ATSC on Audio Type 0x81 or VDR 
would ignore the audio dpid of the channel and set it to 0.  This also 
had to be done for the VNSI plugin in XBMC-PVR.


I really want to thank Lars for teaching me about TS streams..



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Rob Davis

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Re: [vdr] ATSC Channel providers California

2010-10-01 Thread Simon Baxter

Do any networks or network providers provide free or accessible ATSC
channels in the LA area?

Is it FTA, or do they require a CI/CAM?


Have a look here:


http://www.silicondust.com/support/channels

Once you've selected your zip code, it will tell you what you have via 
ATSC over the air, and ATSC-Qam through your cable companies.


I have some scripts which use this to build a channels.conf if you'd 
like..


Thanks Rob

Is there a CI/CAM option with ATSC-QAM cards?  Or are the cable network 
encryption mechanisms proprietary (needing PVR with HDMI to get into VDR)? 



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Re: [vdr] ATSC Channel providers California

2010-10-01 Thread Timothy D. Lenz

To find out what is around you, try this: http://tvfool.com/
It will tell you both the digital and any remaining analog stations, the 
direction and ~ signal level to your location.


ALL ATSC is FTA free to air. It is the replacement for the old analog 
FTA/OTA broadcast all high power stations have been required to switch, 
so all major network stations in your area, abc, nbc, cbs, etc should be 
ATSC. Low power local stations did not have to switch, so you may have a 
few analog in the area.



On 10/1/2010 2:07 AM, Simon Baxter wrote:

Do any networks or network providers provide free or accessible ATSC
channels in the LA area?

Is it FTA, or do they require a CI/CAM?

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Re: [vdr] ATSC Channel providers California

2010-10-01 Thread Timothy D. Lenz

I should say ATSC is the national standard replacement for NTSC

On 10/1/2010 2:07 AM, Simon Baxter wrote:

Do any networks or network providers provide free or accessible ATSC
channels in the LA area?

Is it FTA, or do they require a CI/CAM?

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