Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-28 Thread Rob Davis
Sorry to jump in on this, but I wonder if people could suggest what the settings should be in xineliboutput plugins options? I have just upped my card from an 8400 to an N210 with 512MB ram in order to get 1080i/60hz interlacing working. It's an improvement, but I think I still have

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-28 Thread Jukka Tastula
On Friday 27 August 2010 20:22:03 Rob Davis wrote: I am using a Eurospec TV although am trying to use it at 60hz (I moved to the US from Italy) via a DVI to HDMI cable. I have two modelines, which I switch by my remote using the xrandr command, 720p60 looks better, but I think I should using

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-27 Thread Jukka Tastula
On Friday 27 August 2010 11:32:11 Goga777 wrote: if you disabled full gpu scaling , how upscaling will work really ? what and how will upscale SD video to 1080p ? This setting is only useful if your display device can't scale on its own or the scaling is worse quality. If you enable it the

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-27 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Goga777 ha escrit: Provided that I disable Force Full GPU Scaling, the tv reports a 50Hz signal. if you disabled full gpu scaling , how upscaling will work really ? what and how will upscale SD video to 1080p ? According to the help text, that option is only useful if the display

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-27 Thread JJussi
I had (up till today) problem with my NVidia, what ever I described in xorg.conf, output was 60Hz.. Command what fixed everything: Option FlatPanelProperties Scaling=Native in Section Screen Now, # DISPLAY=:0 nvidia-settings -nt -q RefreshRate 50,00 Hz # JJussi On 27.08.2010

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-27 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na JJussi ha escrit: I had (up till today) problem with my NVidia, what ever I described in xorg.conf, output was 60Hz.. Command what fixed everything: Option FlatPanelProperties Scaling=Native in Section Screen That's the same as disabling Force full gpu scaling in

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-27 Thread Jiri Jansky
Jukka Tastula napsal(a): On Friday 27 August 2010 11:32:11 Goga777 wrote: if you disabled full gpu scaling , how upscaling will work really ? what and how will upscale SD video to 1080p ? This setting is only useful if your display device can't scale on its own or the scaling is worse

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-27 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Goga777 ha escrit: if you disabled full gpu scaling , how upscaling will work really ? what and how will upscale SD video to 1080p ? This setting is only useful if your display device can't scale on its own or the scaling is worse quality. If you enable it the card will always output

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-26 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:16:37PM +0300, Prelude wrote: I have suffered this annoying judder in both live and recording viewing. My config_xineliboutput: http://pastebin.com/kxe7RvX0 xorg.xonf: http://pastebin.com/6fCvWvxU sorry, from that configuration alone I can't tell you what's going

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-26 Thread Laz
On Thursday 26 Aug 2010, Thomas Hilber wrote: When I started to setup my VDPAU machines (end of last year) I first made sure that the Xserver really is running a 50Hz modeline. I mostly play 25/50Hz streams. This way I found an Xserver bug/misbehavior. Only if I explicitly set the modeline

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-26 Thread Matthias Fechner
Hi, Am 26.08.10 12:16, schrieb Laz: Then my old TV blew up and I now have a full-HD LCD TV. I've been using the same setup with the new TV and it still works pretty well for the SD signals I can currently receive. if you new LCD with HDMI use it to connect your HDMI output of the ION board

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-26 Thread Tony Houghton
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:33:48 +0200 Thomas Hilber v...@toh.cx wrote: When I started to setup my VDPAU machines (end of last year) I first made sure that the Xserver really is running a 50Hz modeline. I mostly play 25/50Hz streams. This way I found an Xserver bug/misbehavior. Only if I

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-26 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 03:06:51PM +0100, Tony Houghton wrote: Are you aware of the interaction between DynamicTwinView and XRandR? The no. But if Xorg.0.log tells me (in the bad case): (II) NVIDIA(0): Validating Mode 1920x1080: (II) NVIDIA(0): 1920 x 1080 @ 50 Hz (II) NVIDIA(0): For

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-26 Thread Luca Olivetti
Al 26/08/10 10:33, En/na Thomas Hilber ha escrit: to verify. Even the Xorg.0.log lies about the fact that 50Hz are active but in reality it uses 60Hz. Maybe nVidia has fixed that in the meantime. To watch HD broadcasts I use the hdmi output on my laptop. It isn't configured in xorg but I

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-25 Thread jori.hamalainen
If you can find a modeline what your output is currently using you can use online services to check framerates it provides. xvidtune -show prints the current modeline, but the refresh rate calculated from it will not be the same as the actual rate. My used modeline is (1080p60) $ xvidtune

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-25 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:13:56AM +0200, jori.hamalai...@teliasonera.com wrote: Computer hardware usually cannot provide 50.000Hz, 59.940Hz or 23.976Hz outputs to your TV/Monitor. This will cause some judder on display output as MPEG/AVC input-stream is not synchronized to output framerate.

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-25 Thread Prelude
On 25.8.2010 20:45, Thomas Hilber wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:13:56AM +0200, jori.hamalai...@teliasonera.com wrote: Computer hardware usually cannot provide 50.000Hz, 59.940Hz or 23.976Hz outputs to your TV/Monitor. This will cause some judder on display output as MPEG/AVC input-stream

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-23 Thread Theunis Potgieter
On 21 August 2010 14:54, Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 01:37:10AM +0300, Niko Mikkilä wrote: Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:54 +0400, Goga777 wrote: Computer hardware usually cannot provide 50.000Hz, 59.940Hz or 23.976Hz outputs to your TV/Monitor. This will cause some

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-21 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 01:37:10AM +0300, Niko Mikkilä wrote: Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:54 +0400, Goga777 wrote: Computer hardware usually cannot provide 50.000Hz, 59.940Hz or 23.976Hz outputs to your TV/Monitor. This will cause some judder on display output as MPEG/AVC input-stream is not

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-20 Thread jori.hamalainen
Computer hardware usually cannot provide 50.000Hz, 59.940Hz or 23.976Hz outputs to your TV/Monitor. This will cause some judder on display output as MPEG/AVC input-stream is not synchronized to output framerate. do you mean that all nvidia vdpau cards with existing drivers from Nvidia

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-20 Thread Theunis Potgieter
On 20 August 2010 00:37, Niko Mikkilä n...@phnet.fi wrote: Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:54 +0400, Goga777 wrote: Computer hardware usually cannot provide 50.000Hz, 59.940Hz or 23.976Hz outputs to your TV/Monitor. This will cause some judder on display output as MPEG/AVC input-stream is not

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-20 Thread Niko Mikkilä
Fri, 2010-08-20 at 10:08 +0200, jori.hamalai...@teliasonera.com wrote: There is no graphics card, BD/DVD player or other standalone device that outputs those rates exactly. I don't know how much they deviate, but I'd guess it's usually something like 0.01 % (50.005 Hz instead of 50 Hz),

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-20 Thread Goga777
btw, have a look on new ASRock Core 100HT NetTop http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=asrock_core100htnum=1 ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-19 Thread Niko Mikkilä
Hi, ke, 2010-08-18 kello 10:13 +0200, jori.hamalai...@teliasonera.com kirjoitti: I also would like to remind the framerate issues. Naturally you decide what is enough precision and quality for you. Computer hardware usually cannot provide 50.000Hz, 59.940Hz or 23.976Hz outputs to your

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-19 Thread Goga777
is there really no recommendation for a board not using Nvidia graphics components? It would really be great to not depend on proprietary drivers. Hardware decoding through VA-API is working on some Intel chipsets and CPUs, but I haven't seen any usable GPU deinterlacing

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-19 Thread Niko Mikkilä
Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:54 +0400, Goga777 wrote: Computer hardware usually cannot provide 50.000Hz, 59.940Hz or 23.976Hz outputs to your TV/Monitor. This will cause some judder on display output as MPEG/AVC input-stream is not synchronized to output framerate. do you mean that all nvidia

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-18 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On 18.08.2010 00:36, Paul Menzel wrote: What driver did you use? I used the ppa:gma500/ppa repository as described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo for Ubuntu Lucid. There is lot of green in the table the real situation for this driver is not as

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Pertti Kosunen
On 16.8.2010 19:05, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote: Asus Bravo 220 silent seems to be a passive model. Do you know if these non-motherboard integrated cards support 7.1ch PCM audio over HDMI? http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=HOW-TO_set_up_HDMI_audio_on_nVidia_GeForce_G210%2C_GT220%2C_or_GT240 Don't know is

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Niko Mikkilä
Hi, On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 19:05 +0300, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote: Asus Bravo 220 silent seems to be a passive model. Do you know if these non-motherboard integrated cards support 7.1ch PCM audio over HDMI? Yes, as VDR User said, the latest generation VP4/VDPAU feature set C cards (GeForce 210, GT

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Rene
On 15.8.2010 21:59, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote: Hi, My old HTPC motherboard died and I'm now looking for a new one to become a vdr-sxfe thin client. The old Silverstone case is for normal ATX board but I no more need PCI slots so a smaller one, even a Mini-ITX would do. Since the PC runs 24/7 I'm

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Paul Menzel
Dear VDR folks, Am Sonntag, den 15.08.2010, 21:59 +0300 schrieb Seppo Ingalsuo: My old HTPC motherboard died and I'm now looking for a new one to become a vdr-sxfe thin client. The old Silverstone case is for normal ATX board but I no more need PCI slots so a smaller one, even a Mini-ITX

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
is there really no recommendation for a board not using Nvidia graphics components? It would really be great to not depend on proprietary drivers. The VIA chipset VX855 was supposed to have support 1080p support build in. But those devices do not seem to be available in non Asian

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 13:56 +0300, Rene wrote: I'm also starting to check for a new setup, and i'm on the same line as you: Silent, low-power device that will runn 24/7. I have not yet looked too much around, but there is one thing i'm wondering. What kind of dvb-devices will you use? I use

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 13:39 +0300, Niko Mikkilä wrote: Yes, as VDR User said, the latest generation VP4/VDPAU feature set C cards (GeForce 210, GT 220, ...) have an integrated audio controller. The ALSA driver should support 7.1 channel PCM too. I found that someone has had success with such

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Niko Mikkilä
Hi Paul, On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 17:13 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: is there really no recommendation for a board not using Nvidia graphics components? It would really be great to not depend on proprietary drivers. Hardware decoding through VA-API is working on some Intel chipsets and CPUs, but I

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Paul Menzel paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: is there really no recommendation for a board not using Nvidia graphics components? It would really be great to not depend on proprietary drivers. Just wondering why you even care about this... The Nvidia

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Niko Mikkilä
On Tue, 2010-08-17 kello 19:36 +0300, Seppo Ingalsuo wrote: On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 13:39 +0300, Niko Mikkilä wrote: IMO the only reason to go for a separate card over ION would be higher quality 1080i deinterlacing. You'll need GT 220 for that since GeForce 210 is only slightly faster than

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2010, 19:06 +0300 schrieb Seppo Ingalsuo: is there really no recommendation for a board not using Nvidia graphics components? It would really be great to not depend on proprietary drivers. The VIA chipset VX855 was supposed to have support 1080p support build

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2010, 09:48 -0700 schrieb VDR User: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Paul Menzel paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: is there really no recommendation for a board not using Nvidia graphics components? It would really be great to not depend on proprietary

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-17 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Paul Menzel paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Just wondering why you even care about this...  The Nvidia drivers work well for me and honestly that's all I care about. Good for you. As I wrote I do not want to start a flame war. But you asked. ;-)

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-16 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Hi, Thanks Goga777, On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 00:35 +0400, Goga777 wrote: I recommend you to use PCI-E GT220 Geforce card with motheboard which you will choice Asus Bravo 220 silent seems to be a passive model. Do you know if these non-motherboard integrated cards support 7.1ch PCM audio over

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-16 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Thanks VDR User, On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 14:01 -0700, VDR User wrote: Why not get one of the Zotac IONITX boards and stick it in the M350 case like I did? I'm not familiar with Zotac but I could try it instead my usual of Asus mobos (the one that died was an Asus too). Zotac seems to be sold

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-16 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Seppo Ingalsuo seppo.ingal...@iki.fi wrote:   Fanless, low power, and OS can be installed on SSD, usb flash stick, Microdrive, SD(HC), CF, you name it.  They all have usb adapters so that way your system will remain totally silent. True, my old IDE HDD is not

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-16 Thread Goga777
Why not get one of the Zotac IONITX boards and stick it in the M350 case like I did? would you like please show qvdpautest results for zotzc ionitx Fanless, low power, and OS can be installed on SSD, usb flash stick, Microdrive, SD(HC), CF, you name it. They all have usb adapters so that

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-16 Thread Goga777
I recommend you to use PCI-E GT220 Geforce card with motheboard which you will choice Asus Bravo 220 silent seems to be a passive model. Do you know if these non-motherboard integrated cards support 7.1ch PCM audio over HDMI? seems, doesn't support I got as PM one tip that pointed to

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-16 Thread VDR User
would you like please show qvdpautest results for zotzc ionitx This is already been posted on a few different forums on the net. Google will get that info quicker I think. Also, I would think any GT220 has an own audio controller and therefore HDMI audio but this is an assumption. My GT220

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-15 Thread Goga777
Приветствую, Seppo I recommend you to use PCI-E GT220 Geforce card with motheboard which you will choice this series has very good performance for 1080i temporal_spatial deinterlacing and h264 decoding have a look on qvdpautest

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video audio, etc.

2010-08-15 Thread VDR User
Why not get one of the Zotac IONITX boards and stick it in the M350 case like I did? Fanless, low power, and OS can be installed on SSD, usb flash stick, Microdrive, SD(HC), CF, you name it. They all have usb adapters so that way your system will remain totally silent.