Re: [vdr] Client/server implementation after VDR 2.0: Do [not] reinvent the wheel

2012-03-01 Thread Magnus Hörlin

On 03/01/2012 05:02 PM, Gero wrote:

browser and the frontend does not connect to backend at all.
>  
>  Say you've been unable to manage to do it;-)

Su
I'd say we should let Klaus reinvent the wheel. I'm pretty sure he 
(using us as testers) can do better than myth/tvheadend. As an 
electronics design engineer, I myself do a lot better work if I'm 
allowed to do it the way I want instead of trying to copy someone elses 
design.

/Magnus H


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Re: [vdr] Client/server implementation after VDR 2.0: Do [not] reinvent the wheel

2012-03-01 Thread Eric Valette

On 03/01/2012 05:02 PM, Gero wrote:


Im currently steaming forma dual tuner on two xbmc ;-)


xbmc is not part of tvheadend, so it does not count.


But XBMC incorporates via plugin tvheadend support (as vdr but not via 
streamdev btw).




There are various solutions of C/S with vdr, but all are addons.
I don't see any benefit of tvheadend + xbmc against "my" vdr-setup.


integration of iptv, simplicity, efficiency and the fact that the HTSP 
protool is built-in.


-- eric


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Re: [vdr] Client/server implementation after VDR 2.0: Do [not] reinvent the wheel

2012-03-01 Thread Gero
On Thursday 01 March 2012 - 15:59:24, Eric Valette wrote:
> On 03/01/2012 03:31 PM, Gero wrote:
> > I don't know MythTV, but I tried tvheadend. It has a really attractive
> > backend, but no (working) frontend. Starting vlc from browser crashes the
> > browser and the frontend does not connect to backend at all.
> 
> Say you've been unable to manage to do it ;-)

Sure! 

> Im currently steaming forma dual tuner on two xbmc ;-)

xbmc is not part of tvheadend, so it does not count.
... additionally I don't want xbmc.
I want a small client like vdr-sxfe that simply works ;)

There are various solutions of C/S with vdr, but all are addons.
I don't see any benefit of tvheadend + xbmc against "my" vdr-setup.


kind regards

Gero

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Re: [vdr] Client/server implementation after VDR 2.0: Do [not] reinvent the wheel

2012-03-01 Thread Eric Valette

On 03/01/2012 03:31 PM, Gero wrote:


I don't know MythTV, but I tried tvheadend. It has a really attractive
backend, but no (working) frontend. Starting vlc from browser crashes the
browser and the frontend does not connect to backend at all.


Say you've been unable to manage to do it ;-)

Im currently steaming forma dual tuner on two xbmc ;-)


--eric

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Re: [vdr] Client/server implementation after VDR 2.0: Do [not] reinvent the wheel

2012-03-01 Thread Gero
On Thursday 01 March 2012 - 10:31:37, Paul Menzel wrote:
> On Thursday 01 March 2012 - 07:03:03, VDR User wrote:
>
> I just want to throw in, that there are several programs already using a
> client/server approach (MythTV [1], Tvheadend [2], …) and we should not
> reinvent the wheel when designing the new implementation. 

I'd like to oppose headline and last statement.

"We" can do better, so let's go ahead :)

I don't know MythTV, but I tried tvheadend. It has a really attractive 
backend, but no (working) frontend. Starting vlc from browser crashes the 
browser and the frontend does not connect to backend at all.

With available docs from programs website there's no way to get a working C/S 
solution (refering to debian stable).

So from a users point of view, I prefer a working solution with "suboptimal" 
design over an attractive design, that does not work.

>> If Klaus is clear about what he wants and is in good communication with
>> other coders, perhaps it could become more of a team effort with Klaus as
>> team captain..

+1

>> Keep in mind, people have been wishing for VDR to go this route for quite a
>> while so even if it means extra work fixing plugins, I think you'll find more
>> people welcoming this change than not.

+1

>> maybe it would be a wise idea to start a dedicated thread to it for
>> collecting information on identifying the needs/wants, and ways they can be
>> met. This is a great opportunity to thoroughly think things through so the
>> actual server/client design & integration addresses all the necessary
>> considerations.

+1


kind regards

Gero

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