Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2010-01-04 Thread Petri Hintukainen
Mika Laitio wrote: For some reason the --video vdpau option for vdr-sxfe still does not work for me... (Using mandriva 2010 version of everything else except from own build vdr-1.7.10 and couple od days old xineliboutput plugin with latest fix being: Fixed generating lirc key release

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2010-01-02 Thread Mika Laitio
OK, i finally found the time to complete a VDR PC based on the ION board. The good news are: + 1080p plays back smoothly with xine/vdpau with very low CPU usage. + sound over HDMI works. + the streamdev-client plugin works - even with HD channels. + the xine plugin works fine - also with HD

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2010-01-02 Thread Theunis Potgieter
2010/1/2 Mika Laitio lam...@pilppa.org: OK, i finally found the time to complete a VDR PC based on the ION board. The good news are: + 1080p plays back smoothly with xine/vdpau  with very low CPU usage. + sound over HDMI works. + the streamdev-client plugin works - even with HD channels.

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2010-01-02 Thread M. Fiegert
+ The fan is a bit loud and so far I have not found a silent replacement fan. I also finally setted up my ion system dto :-) zotac-A; Dual Core Atom, 32GB-SSD And over Christmas I managed to make it completely noiseless by installing a Accelero S1 cooler !!!

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2010-01-02 Thread Wolfgang Rohdewald
On Saturday 02 January 2010, M. Fiegert wrote: And over Christmas I managed to make it completely noiseless by installing a Accelero S1 cooler !!! http://www.schwanthalercomputer.de/advanced_search_result.php?key words=accelero+S1amp;x=0amp;y=0 this link works better for me:

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2010-01-02 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
For those looking for quiet fans, I have found the Nexus PWM series 120mm to be the quietest fan for air flow yet. Moves more air then the Arctic fans with the same or lower noise level. I have one cooling an AMD x4 3ghz. I have it set to min speed of about 50% and it takes 100% load to get

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2010-01-02 Thread Mika Laitio
dto :-) zotac-A; Dual Core Atom, 32GB-SSD And over Christmas I managed to make it completely noiseless by installing a Accelero S1 cooler !!! http://www.schwanthalercomputer.de/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=accelero+S1x=0y=0 The mounting is somewhat unorthodox, but took me less than an

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2010-01-02 Thread Mika Laitio
Have you compiled vdr-xineliboutput with --enable-vdpau ? what does ./configure show and are you using xine-lib-1.2 HG with vdpau patch? xineliboutput configure shows vdpau in the list of enabled features but command vdr-sxfe -help does not list vdaup Available video drivers: xv raw SyncFB

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-12-25 Thread Gerald Dachs
Am Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:43:06 +0100 schrieb Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de: On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 17:55 +, Tony Houghton wrote: ... + I originally set up the system as a diskless (nfsroot) system, but KDE 4 (I am using OpenSuSE 11.2) performs unbearably slow, so I was

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-12-25 Thread Theunis Potgieter
2009/12/25 Gerald Dachs v...@dachsweb.de Am Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:43:06 +0100 schrieb Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de: On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 17:55 +, Tony Houghton wrote: ... + I originally set up the system as a diskless (nfsroot)   system, but KDE 4 (I am using OpenSuSE

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-12-25 Thread Tony Houghton
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:12:56 +0100 Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de wrote: + I originally set up the system as a diskless (nfsroot) system, but KDE 4 (I am using OpenSuSE 11.2) performs unbearably slow, so I was forced to install a hard disk. Another idea: if there's a spare USB

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-12-25 Thread Carsten Koch
On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 13:02 +, Tony Houghton wrote: On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:12:56 +0100 Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de wrote: + I originally set up the system as a diskless (nfsroot) system, but KDE 4 (I am using OpenSuSE 11.2) performs unbearably slow, so I was forced to

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-12-25 Thread Theunis Potgieter
What you could do is to make a boot process similar to most rescue or live-cd/usb. The idea is to make the whole thing run in ram, so boot by using network or memory stick, copy squashfs to ram and run from there. Should be lightning fast. 2009/12/25 Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de: On

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-12-25 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Theunis Potgieter theunis.potgie...@gmail.com wrote: What you could do is to make a boot process similar to most rescue or live-cd/usb. The idea is to make the whole thing run in ram, so boot by using network or memory stick, copy squashfs to ram and run from

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-12-25 Thread Theunis Potgieter
2009/12/25 VDR User user@gmail.com: On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Theunis Potgieter theunis.potgie...@gmail.com wrote: What you could do is to make a boot process similar to most rescue or live-cd/usb. The idea is to make the whole thing run in ram, so boot by using network or memory

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-12-25 Thread Tony Houghton
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:23:26 -0800 VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Theunis Potgieter theunis.potgie...@gmail.com wrote: What you could do is to make a boot process similar to most rescue or live-cd/usb. The idea is to make the whole thing run in ram, so

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-12-25 Thread Tony Houghton
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:58:18 +0100 Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 13:02 +, Tony Houghton wrote: Another idea: if there's a spare USB (2.0 High Speed) port you could use a memory stick instead of NFS. Good idea. I suppose this one

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-12-24 Thread Carsten Koch
On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 21:23 +0100, Carsten Koch wrote: ... I was thinking along the same lines and I have just bought an ION board. The main board comes with a CPU and with GeForce 9400 graphics, so that will be cheaper than the sum of a normal board + CPU + GeForce 9400 graphics. OK, i

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-12-24 Thread Tony Houghton
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:12:56 +0100 Carsten Koch carstenkochelsd...@web.de wrote: The not-so-good news are: + The fan is a bit loud and so far I have not found a silent replacement fan. + I originally set up the system as a diskless (nfsroot) system, but KDE 4 (I am using OpenSuSE 11.2)

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-19 Thread Lauri Tischler
Artem Makhutov wrote: Hi, On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:40:38AM +0200, Lauri Tischler wrote: Luca Olivetti wrote: The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? P5N7A does not have enough slots :( Any comments

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-19 Thread Artem Makhutov
Hi, On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:59:26AM +0200, Lauri Tischler wrote: Artem Makhutov wrote: Hi, On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:40:38AM +0200, Lauri Tischler wrote: Luca Olivetti wrote: The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-18 Thread Lauri Tischler
Luca Olivetti wrote: The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? P5N7A does not have enough slots :( Any comments about M4N78 PRO ? ___ vdr mailing list

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-18 Thread Artem Makhutov
Hi, On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:40:38AM +0200, Lauri Tischler wrote: Luca Olivetti wrote: The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? P5N7A does not have enough slots :( Any comments about M4N78 PRO ? I

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-17 Thread Theunis Potgieter
2009/11/16 Seppo Ingalsuo seppo.ingal...@iki.fi: On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 20:24 +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote: 2009/11/15 Timothy D. Lenz tl...@vorgon.com: The SPDIF can't carry 7.1 sound? It's just digital data stream. Should be able to carry how ever many channels get encoded to the data

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 12:28 +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote: In my case, I have a Samsung T260 screen with fibre out, probably SPDIF. In this case the monitor would then be my limitation. Should I get an amp that takes hdmi as input and passes video onto the screen? If the signal source is

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-17 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Seppo Ingalsuo ha escrit: With just VDR DVB-C/T/S as a source there probably is no real advantage to upgrade to HDMI only over legacy SPDIF from TV to AVR setup. If the only planned source is a pc (running vdr and, say, xmbc), would it make sense to bypass the av receiver completely

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
Luca Olivetti wrote: If the only planned source is a pc (running vdr and, say, xmbc), would it make sense to bypass the av receiver completely and just decode the audio on the pc connected to the speakers? Or it doesn't make sense (since you'll need an amplifier for each channel anyway, so you

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-16 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 20:24 +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote: 2009/11/15 Timothy D. Lenz tl...@vorgon.com: The SPDIF can't carry 7.1 sound? It's just digital data stream. Should be able to carry how ever many channels get encoded to the data packets. Is the problem not bandwidth

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Timothy D. Lenz ha escrit: I have seen USB to serial and parallel adapters, but the parallel ones are kind of rare and you might need to mod your software Oh, yes, I'll surely need to modify it, since my driver needs an old-style parallel port, an usb to parallel converter won't do.

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Steffen Barszus ha escrit: Any card will do or should I look for a specific one with some form of spdif pass-through? I don't have experience on this and its not a concern for me, but maybe still give you some facts: * the cards all have an audio pass trough, no connector though * the

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Artem Makhutov ha escrit: I'm still not convinced that a single pci slot is enough though. I am using TeVii S660 and TeVii S650 USB DVB-S2 cards. So I don't need PCI slots. The only problem with the USB devices is that they all require a seperate power supply. Would this be an

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Artem Makhutov
Hi, On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 09:45:40AM +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Timothy D. Lenz ha escrit: I have seen USB to serial and parallel adapters, but the parallel ones are kind of rare and you might need to mod your software Oh, yes, I'll surely need to modify it, since my driver needs

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 09:49 +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote: Well, considering that I cannot find a way to get audio through hdmi with my laptop and I couldn't get much help on the alsa-users mailing list (as couldn't another folk with the same laptop 5 months ago), I am worried. I'm waiting

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Artem Makhutov
Hi, Seppo Ingalsuo schrieb: On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 09:49 +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote: Well, considering that I cannot find a way to get audio through hdmi with my laptop and I couldn't get much help on the alsa-users mailing list (as couldn't another folk with the same laptop 5 months ago), I am

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 11:48 +0100, Artem Makhutov wrote: You can use an .asoundrc to encode 7.1ch PCM to AC3 or DTS and use the SPDIF over HDMI as output device. Tandem coding is not healthy for audio quality if highest quality matters and DD at handles 5.1 only. I am also not aware of any

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Artem Makhutov
Hi, Seppo Ingalsuo schrieb: On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 11:48 +0100, Artem Makhutov wrote: You can use an .asoundrc to encode 7.1ch PCM to AC3 or DTS and use the SPDIF over HDMI as output device. Tandem coding is not healthy for audio quality if highest quality matters and DD at handles 5.1 only.

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 12:24 +0100, Artem Makhutov wrote: Sorry, then I don't understand your problem. I have absolutly no problems with my Zotac ION Mainboard and HDMI Audio output. I think some motherboard integrated chipsets have had working HDMI audio for some time, even Nvidia, PCI-E

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Seppo Ingalsuo ha escrit: The situation with Nvidia HDMI audio is perhaps improving, by Googling I found this one: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=140264 I solved the hw/vendor id thing. Now it is showing when aplay -l but it has 4 different pcm devices with none of

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
If you know something about electronics you could use an unused hard drive connector from your power supply. Bring it out of the case through some connector on that back of the case. Run it to a box with jacks for all your USB tuners to plug into. Just need to check voltages needed by each

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
The SPDIF can't carry 7.1 sound? It's just digital data stream. Should be able to carry how ever many channels get encoded to the data packets. Seppo Ingalsuo wrote: On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 09:49 +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote: Well, considering that I cannot find a way to get audio through hdmi

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Theunis Potgieter
2009/11/15 Timothy D. Lenz tl...@vorgon.com: The SPDIF can't carry 7.1 sound? It's just digital data stream. Should be able to carry how ever many channels get encoded to the data packets. Is the problem not bandwidth requirements? Seppo Ingalsuo wrote: On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 09:49 +0100,

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-15 Thread Matthias Wächter
Am 14.11.2009 13:55, schrieb Steffen Barszus: C2D E7x00 Mainboard w/o IGP GT210/220 Tested a G210: No HDMI sound support with vanilla kernel 2.6.31, and with the simple patch [1] the device is detected but no sound is available, as in [2]. Seems to require more effort to enable G210/GT220

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit: The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? Mmmh, I hate to reply to my own message, but it seems it isn't available anywhere, at least here in Spain :-( Bye -- Luca

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Steffen Barszus
Luca Olivetti schrieb: En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit: The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? Mmmh, I hate to reply to my own message, but it seems it isn't available anywhere, at least here in Spain :-(

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Goga777
The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? Mmmh, I hate to reply to my own message, but it seems it isn't available anywhere, at least here in Spain :-( I'm just at the same task at the moment.

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Andrew Herron
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Luca Olivetti l...@ventoso.org wrote: En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit: The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? Mmmh, I hate to reply to my own message, but it seems it

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Steffen Barszus ha escrit: Vdpau enabled IGP motherboards except ION systems seem not to be available at all for some reason. Maybe because they are old. It's a pity because they seems a good choice: cheap, small, powerful and passively cooled. Same for passive Nvidia GT220 cards

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Andrew Herron ha escrit: The P5N7A-VM seems to have been discontinued by ASUS. We have a number at customer sites and the this motherboard does a good job using Temporal 2x with VDPAU. As I said to Steffen it's a pity that they're no longer available. Maybe there is some newer model

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit: Even if its german, this might give you a good overview: http://wbreu.htpc-forum.de/vdpaukompendium/leistungsvergleichgrafikchipsonboardchips/index.php Thanks, that's a good overview. According to it the GT210 only supports temporal, so it doesn't seem such a

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
Check the linux forums at http://www.nvnews.net/. Sounds like the GT220 would be a good choice. Maybe even the GT210. I have an 8400 with the newer chip and it's is marginal at best and won't do the advanced deint. Luca Olivetti wrote: Hello, Now that I have an hd tv set, I'm looking at

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
NewEgg or ZipZoomFly don't ship to spain? Steffen Barszus wrote: Luca Olivetti schrieb: En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit: The asus P5N7A-VM motherboard seems a good candidate, is its integrated 9300 graphics powerful enough for good deinterlacing? Mmmh, I hate to reply to my own message,

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Timothy D. Lenz ha escrit: NewEgg or ZipZoomFly don't ship to spain? No, but even if they did the shipping, taxes and customs fees would cost more than the wares. Bye -- Luca ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Carsten Koch
On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 13:17 +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote: Hello, Now that I have an hd tv set, I'm looking at revamping my ageing vdr system for hd. Oh, and I want it to be really cheap ;-) I was thinking along the same lines and I have just bought an ION board. The main board comes with a

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Steffen Barszus ha escrit: C2D E7x00 Isn't that overkill? (I mean, with hw accelerated people are using an atom) Mainboard w/o IGP GT210/220 If I go this route (separate motherboard and graphic card) what about audio through hdmi? Any card will do or should I look for a specific

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Carsten Koch ha escrit: Here in Germany, there are only two Atom boards with 1 PCI slot and GeForce 9400 graphics: http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=mb1ppga_ddrxf=597_GeForce+9400~489_1 Yes, but the problem is that I need a parallel port for the actuator (though maybe I could adapt

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Steffen Barszus
Luca Olivetti schrieb: En/na Steffen Barszus ha escrit: C2D E7x00 Isn't that overkill? (I mean, with hw accelerated people are using an atom) Yes it is, but * the CPU should have some potential for undervolting * configuration on speedstep i hope i can tweak I hope to get some potential

Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-14 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
I have seen USB to serial and parallel adapters, but the parallel ones are kind of rare and you might need to mod your software Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Carsten Koch ha escrit: Here in Germany, there are only two Atom boards with 1 PCI slot and GeForce 9400 graphics: