Re: [vdr] Two different types of DVB card

2008-11-17 Thread Tony Houghton
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:20:23 +0100
Sébastien Serra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can you explain it more. What is the right module ? I have 2 dvb card, one
 nova-s and one nova-t. with szap i can use my nova-t. With vdr no success, i
 have unavailable channel when i switch to dvb-t channel.
 Plz help...

For the Nova-S I hadn't built the stv0299 module at first, and then it
wasn't installed after I thought I'd built a new kernel because recent
versions of make-kpkg don't seem to automatically rebuild after changing
something unless you delete its stamp files first.

For the Nova-T the front-end requires tda1004x and also a firmware file
called dvb-fe-tda10045.fw; /usr/src/linux/Documentation/dvb contains a
script to fetch it. If you haven't installed the firmware you'll get the
Channel unavailable message as above, and you'll also see tda1004x:
firmware upload failed in dmesg.

This depends on the model; some Nova-Ts have a completely different
chipset, usually cx88 I think. I had another card which used that, it
also needs some analog v4l drivers before the DVB drivers can be
enabled. I'm not using it ATM because I've only got 2 PCI slots.

The modules the Nova-T and Nova-S are using between them are:

stv0299
tda1004x
budget_ci
budget_core
saa7146
ttpci_eeprom
ir_common
dvb_core

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Re: [vdr] Two different types of DVB card

2008-11-15 Thread Tony Houghton
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:40:28 +0300
Antti Hartikainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 05:22:10PM +0100, Tony Houghton wrote:
  Can VDR handle two different types of DVB card at once? I've got two
  different makes of DVB-T card at the moment, which is fine because
  they share one channels.conf, but I'm thinking of replacing one with
  DVB-S for HD. Can VDR assign a different channels.conf to each card
  and merge the channels list for the EPG?
 
 For what you need different channels.conf files?
 
 You can use same channels.conf with combination of many different
 DVB-adapters. Source -field in channels.conf determines from which
 source the transmission is coming from.

Nice theory, but ti doesn't work in practice for me. With just the DVB-T
channels in channels.conf (I haven't got the DVB-S card working yet) and
the DVB-S card present I get Channel unavailable on every single
channel. Without the DVB-S card present VDR can use the DVB-T card.

Could it be a clash because both cards have a Philips SAA7146 chip
(they're both Hauppauge WinTV Nova PCI models)? If so, this problem only
arises if you try to open both cards at once, or it's unique to VDR,
because other dvb utils such as scan, tzap and dvbstream do work on the
DVB-T card when the DVB-S card is present.

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Re: [vdr] Two different types of DVB card

2008-11-15 Thread Tony Houghton
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:48:16 +
Tony Houghton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nice theory, but ti doesn't work in practice for me. With just the DVB-T
 channels in channels.conf (I haven't got the DVB-S card working yet) and
 the DVB-S card present I get Channel unavailable on every single
 channel. Without the DVB-S card present VDR can use the DVB-T card.
 
 Could it be a clash because both cards have a Philips SAA7146 chip
 (they're both Hauppauge WinTV Nova PCI models)? If so, this problem only
 arises if you try to open both cards at once, or it's unique to VDR,
 because other dvb utils such as scan, tzap and dvbstream do work on the
 DVB-T card when the DVB-S card is present.

OK, it seems that it was the problem with the DVB-S card that was
blocking the DVB-T card too. Once I got the right module installed for
the DVB-S's frontend VDR could use the DVB-T card properly.

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Re: [vdr] Two different types of DVB card

2008-10-20 Thread Antti Hartikainen
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 05:22:10PM +0100, Tony Houghton wrote:
 Can VDR handle two different types of DVB card at once? I've got two
 different makes of DVB-T card at the moment, which is fine because they
 share one channels.conf, but I'm thinking of replacing one with DVB-S
 for HD. Can VDR assign a different channels.conf to each card and merge
 the channels list for the EPG?

For what you need different channels.conf files?

You can use same channels.conf with combination of many different DVB-adapters. 
Source -field in channels.conf determines from 
which source the transmission is coming from.

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Re: [vdr] Two different types of DVB card

2008-10-20 Thread Tony Houghton
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:40:28 +0300
Antti Hartikainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 05:22:10PM +0100, Tony Houghton wrote:
  Can VDR handle two different types of DVB card at once? I've got two
  different makes of DVB-T card at the moment, which is fine because
  they share one channels.conf, but I'm thinking of replacing one with
  DVB-S for HD. Can VDR assign a different channels.conf to each card
  and merge the channels list for the EPG?
 
 For what you need different channels.conf files?
 
 You can use same channels.conf with combination of many different
 DVB-adapters. Source -field in channels.conf determines from which
 source the transmission is coming from.

So it would scan both cards and save the results in one file? And where
both cards have the same channel, eg BBC ONE, there would be two
entries for it? Would two copies show up in the EPG and would it
indicate which card each is associated with?

Sorry for all the ?s.

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Re: [vdr] Two different types of DVB card

2008-10-20 Thread Antti Hartikainen
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 07:16:25PM +0100, Tony Houghton wrote:
 On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:40:28 +0300
 Antti Hartikainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You can use same channels.conf with combination of many different
  DVB-adapters. Source -field in channels.conf determines from which
  source the transmission is coming from.
 
 So it would scan both cards and save the results in one file? And where
 both cards have the same channel, eg BBC ONE, there would be two
 entries for it? Would two copies show up in the EPG and would it
 indicate which card each is associated with?

Everything looks and acts like with your current configuration with two DVB-T 
adapters..

If you have BBC ONE from two different sources (T and S for example), you would 
have 2 entries in your channels list. You don't 
know which one comes from which source without patching or looking through 
channels edit -menu.

About scanning i have no idea, i've myself always made lists manually.

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Re: [vdr] Two different types of DVB card

2008-10-20 Thread Mika Laitio
 Can VDR handle two different types of DVB card at once? I've got two
 different makes of DVB-T card at the moment, which is fine because they
 share one channels.conf, but I'm thinking of replacing one with DVB-S
 for HD. Can VDR assign a different channels.conf to each card and merge
 the channels list for the EPG?

You can add both the dvb-t and dvb-s channels to same channel.conf.
VDR is smart enough to recognize for which channels it needs to use dvb-t 
and for which it needs to use dvb-s card.

I am currenlty for example using hvr-1300 (dvb-t) and hvr-4000 (dvb-s) 
just fine with vdr-1.6.0.

Mika

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