Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
On 06.02.2010 16:58, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: ... Please give the attached patch a try. Correction: it needs to be CardIndex() + 1 instead of DeviceNumber(): dvbTuner = new cDvbTuner(CardIndex() + 1, fd_frontend, adapter, frontend, frontendType); if (!Setup.DiSEqC || Diseqcs.Get(CardIndex() + 1, Channel-Source(), Channel-Frequency(), Channel-Polarization())) Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
On the card side, Say you have a standard s1 and a s2. The s2 can do both s1 and s2, but the standard only card can only do s1. There is also turbo mode in NA and cards that do turbo can also do standard but they can't do s2. We have all 3 types in use though most of the turbo mode requires a propriatory receiver. There are also problems on the dish side. Two dishes, One fixed, one on a rotor. If each goes to a separate card, clearly, the fixed dish can only see what is on one sat while the rotor can see that sat plus many others. If the lnb on the rotor is of the dual mode type, circular/linear, or covers a greater range as some do, then even while pointing to the same sat as the fixed, it will cover stuff the fixed can't. There could also be ways using dual output lnbs, where the fixed and rotor have signals going to two cards. only one card can move the dish, but ether card can see ether dish. When recording 2 channels at the same time, vdr needs a way to know if both are on the same sat, then it can use the rotor for both. For recording on different sats, it needs to plan ahead by putting the recording that is on a sat not viewable by the fixed dish, on the card that can move the dish so that a second recordind on the sat viewable by the fixed dish goes to the other card. Sounds confusing, but with multi-dish setups, that happens. On 2/6/2010 5:05 PM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 07.02.2010 00:31, Timothy D. Lenz wrote: This would cause duplicate lines for devices that overlap, such has where there are both fixed and rotor dish. Better to include the supporting devices in the entries. I don't see what you mean. Can you be more specific? Klaus On 2/6/2010 4:57 AM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02.02.2010 07:35, Ian Bates wrote: On 1 Feb 2010, at 22:24, abbe normal wrote: On 2/1/10, VDR Useruser@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Halim Sahinhalim.sa...@t-online.de wrote: Hi List and Klaus, It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in vdr. I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is difficult for endusers. Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands. A simple interface for creating a diseqc.conf can improove the usability of vdr! Personally I think adding support for multiple diseqc switches is a more important feature as I've noticed several users asking how to do this in VDR -- which it unfortunately doesn't support. I think this is actually one of the reasons some guys fumble around trying to cascade their diseqc switches. However, not all switches can be cascaded and so they're left stuck. Can't cascade, and no support for multiple switches. hey guys i agree multi cards should be able to use mutli diseqc configs... or at least be able to assign them to different switches that could be used... would be nice to add more dishes and lnbs to my setup... would like to do c and ku band dvb as well as have at least 2 to 3 fixed dishes with lnbs on them now im limited to 4 max or use a very costly switch... abby Dear all, I have a diseqc-patch I that hacked together a couple of years ago relating to multi-cards/multi-switches that has served my purpose well. It may not be the best way, it may even be the wrong way. I will drag it out of the VDR box for all to see but that will not be for a couple of days. MOTIVATION I have three LNBs (28.2/5, 19.2, 13.0) and two cards, each card attached to a 4-way diseqc switch. Despite the switches being the same model and bought at the same time each one responds to a different set of diseqc commands to change LNB. IIRC one seemed to behave as a cascade of 2-way switches, the other responded to the more usual commands for a 4-way switch. DESCRIPTION Enter my hack. It allows diseqc commands to be defined on a per-card basis (numbered 1, 2, ...). How you determine which number corresponds to which card is left as an exercise for the reader (hint: the margin may not be big enough). These defines are placed in 'diseqc-multi.conf' and start with the card number but are otherwise the same format as those found in 'diseqc.conf'. CONFIGURATION Configuration options within VDR are: - use only the diseqc.conf defines, - use only the diseqc-multi.conf, - use the disqc-multi.conf if a card definition appears otherwise use the diseqc.conf defines. I don't like the introduction of a separate diseqc-multi.conf file, and also those additional setup options in VDR. What about simply extending the existing diseqc.conf file to accept device numbers, as in: 1 2 4: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T 3 5: S13.0E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 B W15 T S13.0E 11700 H 9750
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
On 07.02.2010 19:26, Timothy D. Lenz wrote: On the card side, Say you have a standard s1 and a s2. The s2 can do both s1 and s2, but the standard only card can only do s1. There is also turbo mode in NA and cards that do turbo can also do standard but they can't do s2. We have all 3 types in use though most of the turbo mode requires a propriatory receiver. There are also problems on the dish side. Two dishes, One fixed, one on a rotor. If each goes to a separate card, clearly, the fixed dish can only see what is on one sat while the rotor can see that sat plus many others. If the lnb on the rotor is of the dual mode type, circular/linear, or covers a greater range as some do, then even while pointing to the same sat as the fixed, it will cover stuff the fixed can't. There could also be ways using dual output lnbs, where the fixed and rotor have signals going to two cards. only one card can move the dish, but ether card can see ether dish. When recording 2 channels at the same time, vdr needs a way to know if both are on the same sat, then it can use the rotor for both. For recording on different sats, it needs to plan ahead by putting the recording that is on a sat not viewable by the fixed dish, on the card that can move the dish so that a second recordind on the sat viewable by the fixed dish goes to the other card. Sounds confusing, but with multi-dish setups, that happens. I guess now you know why I never even touched that motor topic ;-) I just wanted to add a simple way by which people who don't have a setup where every DVB-S card can receive every sat position (by means of (cascaded) multiswitches) can fine tune their diseqc.conf. There was absolutely no intention to even think about this whole motor complexity. That's way too complicated for my taste. Klaus On 2/6/2010 5:05 PM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 07.02.2010 00:31, Timothy D. Lenz wrote: This would cause duplicate lines for devices that overlap, such has where there are both fixed and rotor dish. Better to include the supporting devices in the entries. I don't see what you mean. Can you be more specific? Klaus On 2/6/2010 4:57 AM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02.02.2010 07:35, Ian Bates wrote: On 1 Feb 2010, at 22:24, abbe normal wrote: On 2/1/10, VDR Useruser@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Halim Sahinhalim.sa...@t-online.de wrote: Hi List and Klaus, It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in vdr. I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is difficult for endusers. Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands. A simple interface for creating a diseqc.conf can improove the usability of vdr! Personally I think adding support for multiple diseqc switches is a more important feature as I've noticed several users asking how to do this in VDR -- which it unfortunately doesn't support. I think this is actually one of the reasons some guys fumble around trying to cascade their diseqc switches. However, not all switches can be cascaded and so they're left stuck. Can't cascade, and no support for multiple switches. hey guys i agree multi cards should be able to use mutli diseqc configs... or at least be able to assign them to different switches that could be used... would be nice to add more dishes and lnbs to my setup... would like to do c and ku band dvb as well as have at least 2 to 3 fixed dishes with lnbs on them now im limited to 4 max or use a very costly switch... abby Dear all, I have a diseqc-patch I that hacked together a couple of years ago relating to multi-cards/multi-switches that has served my purpose well. It may not be the best way, it may even be the wrong way. I will drag it out of the VDR box for all to see but that will not be for a couple of days. MOTIVATION I have three LNBs (28.2/5, 19.2, 13.0) and two cards, each card attached to a 4-way diseqc switch. Despite the switches being the same model and bought at the same time each one responds to a different set of diseqc commands to change LNB. IIRC one seemed to behave as a cascade of 2-way switches, the other responded to the more usual commands for a 4-way switch. DESCRIPTION Enter my hack. It allows diseqc commands to be defined on a per-card basis (numbered 1, 2, ...). How you determine which number corresponds to which card is left as an exercise for the reader (hint: the margin may not be big enough). These defines are placed in 'diseqc-multi.conf' and start with the card number but are otherwise the same format as those found in 'diseqc.conf'. CONFIGURATION Configuration options within VDR are: - use only the diseqc.conf defines, - use only the diseqc-multi.conf, - use the disqc-multi.conf if a card definition appears otherwise use the diseqc.conf defines. I don't like the introduction of a separate diseqc-multi.conf file, and also those
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
Hi Klaus, On So, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:53:14 +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: I guess now you know why I never even touched that motor topic ;-) Sorry Klaus for touching this topic :-(. My intension was to have an easy way for configuring (simple) diseqc setups directly in vdr. Br. Halim ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
On 07.02.2010 22:27, Halim Sahin wrote: Hi Klaus, On So, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:53:14 +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: I guess now you know why I never even touched that motor topic ;-) Sorry Klaus for touching this topic :-(. My intension was to have an easy way for configuring (simple) diseqc setups directly in vdr. I'm sure somebody can write a plugin that offers such a configuration dialog and writes out a diseqc.conf. The capability to add device numbers to diseqc.conf will be in version 1.7.13. Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
Hi, On 06.02.2010 16:05, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 06.02.2010 13:55, Halim Sahin wrote: I'd suggest to add a (plugin or settingsmenü) for vdr which alows easy configuration of the diseqc stuff without touching diseqc.conf. Doing this by implementing a plugin is ok for me but it should be shipped with vdr because I think it's a core feature of a video disk recorder! I suggest somebody writes a plugin that does this. In September last year I started a little patch for VDR 1.6.0 with the intention to add OneCable support to VDR. Due to lack of time I did not continue the project. If someone is interested in the code, they can take a look at it here: http://ilpss8.dyndns.org/hg/vdr-1.6.0-diseqc/. I am not a skilled programmer, so I'm sure this code has some flaws. The setup option for OneCable is there, but there is no code behind it, yet. The other DiSecQ setup options should work. André ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
On 02.02.2010 07:35, Ian Bates wrote: On 1 Feb 2010, at 22:24, abbe normal wrote: On 2/1/10, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Halim Sahin halim.sa...@t-online.de wrote: Hi List and Klaus, It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in vdr. I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is difficult for endusers. Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands. A simple interface for creating a diseqc.conf can improove the usability of vdr! Personally I think adding support for multiple diseqc switches is a more important feature as I've noticed several users asking how to do this in VDR -- which it unfortunately doesn't support. I think this is actually one of the reasons some guys fumble around trying to cascade their diseqc switches. However, not all switches can be cascaded and so they're left stuck. Can't cascade, and no support for multiple switches. hey guys i agree multi cards should be able to use mutli diseqc configs... or at least be able to assign them to different switches that could be used... would be nice to add more dishes and lnbs to my setup... would like to do c and ku band dvb as well as have at least 2 to 3 fixed dishes with lnbs on them now im limited to 4 max or use a very costly switch... abby Dear all, I have a diseqc-patch I that hacked together a couple of years ago relating to multi-cards/multi-switches that has served my purpose well. It may not be the best way, it may even be the wrong way. I will drag it out of the VDR box for all to see but that will not be for a couple of days. MOTIVATION I have three LNBs (28.2/5, 19.2, 13.0) and two cards, each card attached to a 4-way diseqc switch. Despite the switches being the same model and bought at the same time each one responds to a different set of diseqc commands to change LNB. IIRC one seemed to behave as a cascade of 2-way switches, the other responded to the more usual commands for a 4-way switch. DESCRIPTION Enter my hack. It allows diseqc commands to be defined on a per-card basis (numbered 1, 2, ...). How you determine which number corresponds to which card is left as an exercise for the reader (hint: the margin may not be big enough). These defines are placed in 'diseqc-multi.conf' and start with the card number but are otherwise the same format as those found in 'diseqc.conf'. CONFIGURATION Configuration options within VDR are: - use only the diseqc.conf defines, - use only the diseqc-multi.conf, - use the disqc-multi.conf if a card definition appears otherwise use the diseqc.conf defines. I don't like the introduction of a separate diseqc-multi.conf file, and also those additional setup options in VDR. What about simply extending the existing diseqc.conf file to accept device numbers, as in: 1 2 4: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T 3 5: S13.0E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 B W15 T S13.0E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 B W15 T This could mean that devices 1, 2 and 4 can receive S19.2E, while devices 3 and 5 can receive S13.0E. If no device numbers (followed by a ':') are given, a setup where every device can receive every satellite is assumed. Once a line with device numbers (followed by a ':') appears, these apply to all following diseqc lines, until the next line with device numbers is seen. If a diseqc line is parsed without a previous device line, that diseqc line applies to all devices. Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
On 6 Feb 2010, at 11:57, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02.02.2010 07:35, Ian Bates wrote: On 1 Feb 2010, at 22:24, abbe normal wrote: On 2/1/10, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Halim Sahin halim.sa...@t-online.de wrote: Hi List and Klaus, It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in vdr. I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is difficult for endusers. Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands. A simple interface for creating a diseqc.conf can improove the usability of vdr! Personally I think adding support for multiple diseqc switches is a more important feature as I've noticed several users asking how to do this in VDR -- which it unfortunately doesn't support. I think this is actually one of the reasons some guys fumble around trying to cascade their diseqc switches. However, not all switches can be cascaded and so they're left stuck. Can't cascade, and no support for multiple switches. hey guys i agree multi cards should be able to use mutli diseqc configs... or at least be able to assign them to different switches that could be used... would be nice to add more dishes and lnbs to my setup... would like to do c and ku band dvb as well as have at least 2 to 3 fixed dishes with lnbs on them now im limited to 4 max or use a very costly switch... abby Dear all, I have a diseqc-patch I that hacked together a couple of years ago relating to multi-cards/multi-switches that has served my purpose well. It may not be the best way, it may even be the wrong way. I will drag it out of the VDR box for all to see but that will not be for a couple of days. MOTIVATION I have three LNBs (28.2/5, 19.2, 13.0) and two cards, each card attached to a 4-way diseqc switch. Despite the switches being the same model and bought at the same time each one responds to a different set of diseqc commands to change LNB. IIRC one seemed to behave as a cascade of 2-way switches, the other responded to the more usual commands for a 4-way switch. DESCRIPTION Enter my hack. It allows diseqc commands to be defined on a per-card basis (numbered 1, 2, ...). How you determine which number corresponds to which card is left as an exercise for the reader (hint: the margin may not be big enough). These defines are placed in 'diseqc-multi.conf' and start with the card number but are otherwise the same format as those found in 'diseqc.conf'. CONFIGURATION Configuration options within VDR are: - use only the diseqc.conf defines, - use only the diseqc-multi.conf, - use the disqc-multi.conf if a card definition appears otherwise use the diseqc.conf defines. I don't like the introduction of a separate diseqc-multi.conf file, and also those additional setup options in VDR. What about simply extending the existing diseqc.conf file to accept device numbers, as in: 1 2 4: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T 3 5: S13.0E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 B W15 T S13.0E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 B W15 T This could mean that devices 1, 2 and 4 can receive S19.2E, while devices 3 and 5 can receive S13.0E. If no device numbers (followed by a ':') are given, a setup where every device can receive every satellite is assumed. Once a line with device numbers (followed by a ':') appears, these apply to all following diseqc lines, until the next line with device numbers is seen. If a diseqc line is parsed without a previous device line, that diseqc line applies to all devices. Klaus Dear Klaus, all, That sounds good. Using this proposal I would configure my system with the following diseqc.conf: # diseqc.conf S28.2E a1... S28.2E a2... S28.2E a3... S28.2E a4... S19.2E b1... S19.2E b2... S19.2E b3... S19.2E b4... S13.0E c1... S13.0E c2... S13.0E c3... S13.0E c4... 2: S28.2E A1... S28.2E A2... S28.2E A3... S28.2E A4... S19.2E B1... S19.2E B2... S19.2E B3... S19.2E B4... S13.0E B1... S13.0E B2... S13.0E B3... S13.0E B4... # EOF where [a-cA-C][1-4]... are diseqc command sequences. If I understand correctly, with Klaus' proposal my 'normal' switch (card 1) would use the [a-c][1-4]... commands, and my problem switch (attached to card 2) would use the [A-C][1-4]... commands. Any additional cards would also use the [a-c][1-4]... commands. Unless I have understood incorrectly this gets my vote, if someone implements! Ian. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
On 06.02.2010 13:26, Ian Bates wrote: On 6 Feb 2010, at 11:57, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02.02.2010 07:35, Ian Bates wrote: On 1 Feb 2010, at 22:24, abbe normal wrote: On 2/1/10, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Halim Sahin halim.sa...@t-online.de wrote: Hi List and Klaus, It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in vdr. I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is difficult for endusers. Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands. A simple interface for creating a diseqc.conf can improove the usability of vdr! Personally I think adding support for multiple diseqc switches is a more important feature as I've noticed several users asking how to do this in VDR -- which it unfortunately doesn't support. I think this is actually one of the reasons some guys fumble around trying to cascade their diseqc switches. However, not all switches can be cascaded and so they're left stuck. Can't cascade, and no support for multiple switches. hey guys i agree multi cards should be able to use mutli diseqc configs... or at least be able to assign them to different switches that could be used... would be nice to add more dishes and lnbs to my setup... would like to do c and ku band dvb as well as have at least 2 to 3 fixed dishes with lnbs on them now im limited to 4 max or use a very costly switch... abby Dear all, I have a diseqc-patch I that hacked together a couple of years ago relating to multi-cards/multi-switches that has served my purpose well. It may not be the best way, it may even be the wrong way. I will drag it out of the VDR box for all to see but that will not be for a couple of days. MOTIVATION I have three LNBs (28.2/5, 19.2, 13.0) and two cards, each card attached to a 4-way diseqc switch. Despite the switches being the same model and bought at the same time each one responds to a different set of diseqc commands to change LNB. IIRC one seemed to behave as a cascade of 2-way switches, the other responded to the more usual commands for a 4-way switch. DESCRIPTION Enter my hack. It allows diseqc commands to be defined on a per-card basis (numbered 1, 2, ...). How you determine which number corresponds to which card is left as an exercise for the reader (hint: the margin may not be big enough). These defines are placed in 'diseqc-multi.conf' and start with the card number but are otherwise the same format as those found in 'diseqc.conf'. CONFIGURATION Configuration options within VDR are: - use only the diseqc.conf defines, - use only the diseqc-multi.conf, - use the disqc-multi.conf if a card definition appears otherwise use the diseqc.conf defines. I don't like the introduction of a separate diseqc-multi.conf file, and also those additional setup options in VDR. What about simply extending the existing diseqc.conf file to accept device numbers, as in: 1 2 4: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T 3 5: S13.0E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 B W15 T S13.0E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 B W15 T This could mean that devices 1, 2 and 4 can receive S19.2E, while devices 3 and 5 can receive S13.0E. If no device numbers (followed by a ':') are given, a setup where every device can receive every satellite is assumed. Once a line with device numbers (followed by a ':') appears, these apply to all following diseqc lines, until the next line with device numbers is seen. If a diseqc line is parsed without a previous device line, that diseqc line applies to all devices. Klaus Dear Klaus, all, That sounds good. Using this proposal I would configure my system with the following diseqc.conf: # diseqc.conf S28.2E a1... S28.2E a2... S28.2E a3... S28.2E a4... S19.2E b1... S19.2E b2... S19.2E b3... S19.2E b4... S13.0E c1... S13.0E c2... S13.0E c3... S13.0E c4... 2: S28.2E A1... S28.2E A2... S28.2E A3... S28.2E A4... S19.2E B1... S19.2E B2... S19.2E B3... S19.2E B4... S13.0E B1... S13.0E B2... S13.0E B3... S13.0E B4... # EOF where [a-cA-C][1-4]... are diseqc command sequences. If I understand correctly, with Klaus' proposal my 'normal' switch (card 1) would use the [a-c][1-4]... commands, and my problem switch (attached to card 2) would use the [A-C][1-4]... commands. Any additional cards would also use the [a-c][1-4]... commands. You would have to put 1: at the beginning of that file, because otherwise everything before the 2: would be applicable to *all* devices, including #2. The first entry
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
Hi Klaus, Thx for your response for this request :-). My initial intension was a bit different than the later diskusion went on. I'd suggest to add a (plugin or settingsmenü) for vdr which alows easy configuration of the diseqc stuff without touching diseqc.conf. Doing this by implementing a plugin is ok for me but it should be shipped with vdr because I think it's a core feature of a video disk recorder! BR. Halim ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
On 06.02.2010 13:55, Halim Sahin wrote: Hi Klaus, Thx for your response for this request :-). My initial intension was a bit different than the later diskusion went on. I'd suggest to add a (plugin or settingsmenü) for vdr which alows easy configuration of the diseqc stuff without touching diseqc.conf. Doing this by implementing a plugin is ok for me but it should be shipped with vdr because I think it's a core feature of a video disk recorder! I suggest somebody writes a plugin that does this. Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
On 06.02.2010 13:38, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 06.02.2010 13:26, Ian Bates wrote: On 6 Feb 2010, at 11:57, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02.02.2010 07:35, Ian Bates wrote: On 1 Feb 2010, at 22:24, abbe normal wrote: On 2/1/10, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Halim Sahin halim.sa...@t-online.de wrote: Hi List and Klaus, It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in vdr. I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is difficult for endusers. Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands. A simple interface for creating a diseqc.conf can improove the usability of vdr! Personally I think adding support for multiple diseqc switches is a more important feature as I've noticed several users asking how to do this in VDR -- which it unfortunately doesn't support. I think this is actually one of the reasons some guys fumble around trying to cascade their diseqc switches. However, not all switches can be cascaded and so they're left stuck. Can't cascade, and no support for multiple switches. hey guys i agree multi cards should be able to use mutli diseqc configs... or at least be able to assign them to different switches that could be used... would be nice to add more dishes and lnbs to my setup... would like to do c and ku band dvb as well as have at least 2 to 3 fixed dishes with lnbs on them now im limited to 4 max or use a very costly switch... abby Dear all, I have a diseqc-patch I that hacked together a couple of years ago relating to multi-cards/multi-switches that has served my purpose well. It may not be the best way, it may even be the wrong way. I will drag it out of the VDR box for all to see but that will not be for a couple of days. MOTIVATION I have three LNBs (28.2/5, 19.2, 13.0) and two cards, each card attached to a 4-way diseqc switch. Despite the switches being the same model and bought at the same time each one responds to a different set of diseqc commands to change LNB. IIRC one seemed to behave as a cascade of 2-way switches, the other responded to the more usual commands for a 4-way switch. DESCRIPTION Enter my hack. It allows diseqc commands to be defined on a per-card basis (numbered 1, 2, ...). How you determine which number corresponds to which card is left as an exercise for the reader (hint: the margin may not be big enough). These defines are placed in 'diseqc-multi.conf' and start with the card number but are otherwise the same format as those found in 'diseqc.conf'. CONFIGURATION Configuration options within VDR are: - use only the diseqc.conf defines, - use only the diseqc-multi.conf, - use the disqc-multi.conf if a card definition appears otherwise use the diseqc.conf defines. I don't like the introduction of a separate diseqc-multi.conf file, and also those additional setup options in VDR. What about simply extending the existing diseqc.conf file to accept device numbers, as in: 1 2 4: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T 3 5: S13.0E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 B W15 T S13.0E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 B W15 T This could mean that devices 1, 2 and 4 can receive S19.2E, while devices 3 and 5 can receive S13.0E. If no device numbers (followed by a ':') are given, a setup where every device can receive every satellite is assumed. Once a line with device numbers (followed by a ':') appears, these apply to all following diseqc lines, until the next line with device numbers is seen. If a diseqc line is parsed without a previous device line, that diseqc line applies to all devices. Klaus Dear Klaus, all, That sounds good. Using this proposal I would configure my system with the following diseqc.conf: # diseqc.conf S28.2E a1... S28.2E a2... S28.2E a3... S28.2E a4... S19.2E b1... S19.2E b2... S19.2E b3... S19.2E b4... S13.0E c1... S13.0E c2... S13.0E c3... S13.0E c4... 2: S28.2E A1... S28.2E A2... S28.2E A3... S28.2E A4... S19.2E B1... S19.2E B2... S19.2E B3... S19.2E B4... S13.0E B1... S13.0E B2... S13.0E B3... S13.0E B4... # EOF where [a-cA-C][1-4]... are diseqc command sequences. If I understand correctly, with Klaus' proposal my 'normal' switch (card 1) would use the [a-c][1-4]... commands, and my problem switch (attached to card 2) would use the [A-C][1-4]... commands. Any additional cards would also use the [a-c][1-4]... commands. You would have to put 1: at the beginning of that file, because otherwise everything before the 2: would be applicable to
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
This would cause duplicate lines for devices that overlap, such has where there are both fixed and rotor dish. Better to include the supporting devices in the entries. On 2/6/2010 4:57 AM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02.02.2010 07:35, Ian Bates wrote: On 1 Feb 2010, at 22:24, abbe normal wrote: On 2/1/10, VDR Useruser@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Halim Sahinhalim.sa...@t-online.de wrote: Hi List and Klaus, It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in vdr. I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is difficult for endusers. Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands. A simple interface for creating a diseqc.conf can improove the usability of vdr! Personally I think adding support for multiple diseqc switches is a more important feature as I've noticed several users asking how to do this in VDR -- which it unfortunately doesn't support. I think this is actually one of the reasons some guys fumble around trying to cascade their diseqc switches. However, not all switches can be cascaded and so they're left stuck. Can't cascade, and no support for multiple switches. hey guys i agree multi cards should be able to use mutli diseqc configs... or at least be able to assign them to different switches that could be used... would be nice to add more dishes and lnbs to my setup... would like to do c and ku band dvb as well as have at least 2 to 3 fixed dishes with lnbs on them now im limited to 4 max or use a very costly switch... abby Dear all, I have a diseqc-patch I that hacked together a couple of years ago relating to multi-cards/multi-switches that has served my purpose well. It may not be the best way, it may even be the wrong way. I will drag it out of the VDR box for all to see but that will not be for a couple of days. MOTIVATION I have three LNBs (28.2/5, 19.2, 13.0) and two cards, each card attached to a 4-way diseqc switch. Despite the switches being the same model and bought at the same time each one responds to a different set of diseqc commands to change LNB. IIRC one seemed to behave as a cascade of 2-way switches, the other responded to the more usual commands for a 4-way switch. DESCRIPTION Enter my hack. It allows diseqc commands to be defined on a per-card basis (numbered 1, 2, ...). How you determine which number corresponds to which card is left as an exercise for the reader (hint: the margin may not be big enough). These defines are placed in 'diseqc-multi.conf' and start with the card number but are otherwise the same format as those found in 'diseqc.conf'. CONFIGURATION Configuration options within VDR are: - use only the diseqc.conf defines, - use only the diseqc-multi.conf, - use the disqc-multi.conf if a card definition appears otherwise use the diseqc.conf defines. I don't like the introduction of a separate diseqc-multi.conf file, and also those additional setup options in VDR. What about simply extending the existing diseqc.conf file to accept device numbers, as in: 1 2 4: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T 3 5: S13.0E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 B W15 T S13.0E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 B W15 T This could mean that devices 1, 2 and 4 can receive S19.2E, while devices 3 and 5 can receive S13.0E. If no device numbers (followed by a ':') are given, a setup where every device can receive every satellite is assumed. Once a line with device numbers (followed by a ':') appears, these apply to all following diseqc lines, until the next line with device numbers is seen. If a diseqc line is parsed without a previous device line, that diseqc line applies to all devices. Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
On 07.02.2010 00:31, Timothy D. Lenz wrote: This would cause duplicate lines for devices that overlap, such has where there are both fixed and rotor dish. Better to include the supporting devices in the entries. I don't see what you mean. Can you be more specific? Klaus On 2/6/2010 4:57 AM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 02.02.2010 07:35, Ian Bates wrote: On 1 Feb 2010, at 22:24, abbe normal wrote: On 2/1/10, VDR Useruser@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Halim Sahinhalim.sa...@t-online.de wrote: Hi List and Klaus, It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in vdr. I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is difficult for endusers. Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands. A simple interface for creating a diseqc.conf can improove the usability of vdr! Personally I think adding support for multiple diseqc switches is a more important feature as I've noticed several users asking how to do this in VDR -- which it unfortunately doesn't support. I think this is actually one of the reasons some guys fumble around trying to cascade their diseqc switches. However, not all switches can be cascaded and so they're left stuck. Can't cascade, and no support for multiple switches. hey guys i agree multi cards should be able to use mutli diseqc configs... or at least be able to assign them to different switches that could be used... would be nice to add more dishes and lnbs to my setup... would like to do c and ku band dvb as well as have at least 2 to 3 fixed dishes with lnbs on them now im limited to 4 max or use a very costly switch... abby Dear all, I have a diseqc-patch I that hacked together a couple of years ago relating to multi-cards/multi-switches that has served my purpose well. It may not be the best way, it may even be the wrong way. I will drag it out of the VDR box for all to see but that will not be for a couple of days. MOTIVATION I have three LNBs (28.2/5, 19.2, 13.0) and two cards, each card attached to a 4-way diseqc switch. Despite the switches being the same model and bought at the same time each one responds to a different set of diseqc commands to change LNB. IIRC one seemed to behave as a cascade of 2-way switches, the other responded to the more usual commands for a 4-way switch. DESCRIPTION Enter my hack. It allows diseqc commands to be defined on a per-card basis (numbered 1, 2, ...). How you determine which number corresponds to which card is left as an exercise for the reader (hint: the margin may not be big enough). These defines are placed in 'diseqc-multi.conf' and start with the card number but are otherwise the same format as those found in 'diseqc.conf'. CONFIGURATION Configuration options within VDR are: - use only the diseqc.conf defines, - use only the diseqc-multi.conf, - use the disqc-multi.conf if a card definition appears otherwise use the diseqc.conf defines. I don't like the introduction of a separate diseqc-multi.conf file, and also those additional setup options in VDR. What about simply extending the existing diseqc.conf file to accept device numbers, as in: 1 2 4: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T 3 5: S13.0E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 B W15 T S13.0E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 B W15 T This could mean that devices 1, 2 and 4 can receive S19.2E, while devices 3 and 5 can receive S13.0E. If no device numbers (followed by a ':') are given, a setup where every device can receive every satellite is assumed. Once a line with device numbers (followed by a ':') appears, these apply to all following diseqc lines, until the next line with device numbers is seen. If a diseqc line is parsed without a previous device line, that diseqc line applies to all devices. Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
Ich glaube, dass GotoX und Go to Position auch sehr wichtig ist. Kann es sein, dass vielleicht alle Patches die hier bis jetzt veröffentlicht wurden unserem Klaus nicht gefallen haben? Ist es vielleicht sinnvoller, dass Klaus einfach mal sagt wie er es sich vorstellt, damit solche Patches mehr Chancen haben in VDR intergriert zu werden. Sorry für mein English. 2010/2/2 Ian Bates ian_and_joa...@talktalk.net On 1 Feb 2010, at 22:24, abbe normal wrote: On 2/1/10, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Halim Sahin halim.sa...@t-online.de wrote: Hi List and Klaus, It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in vdr. I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is difficult for endusers. Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands. A simple interface for creating a diseqc.conf can improove the usability of vdr! Personally I think adding support for multiple diseqc switches is a more important feature as I've noticed several users asking how to do this in VDR -- which it unfortunately doesn't support. I think this is actually one of the reasons some guys fumble around trying to cascade their diseqc switches. However, not all switches can be cascaded and so they're left stuck. Can't cascade, and no support for multiple switches. hey guys i agree multi cards should be able to use mutli diseqc configs... or at least be able to assign them to different switches that could be used... would be nice to add more dishes and lnbs to my setup... would like to do c and ku band dvb as well as have at least 2 to 3 fixed dishes with lnbs on them now im limited to 4 max or use a very costly switch... abby Dear all, I have a diseqc-patch I that hacked together a couple of years ago relating to multi-cards/multi-switches that has served my purpose well. It may not be the best way, it may even be the wrong way. I will drag it out of the VDR box for all to see but that will not be for a couple of days. MOTIVATION I have three LNBs (28.2/5, 19.2, 13.0) and two cards, each card attached to a 4-way diseqc switch. Despite the switches being the same model and bought at the same time each one responds to a different set of diseqc commands to change LNB. IIRC one seemed to behave as a cascade of 2-way switches, the other responded to the more usual commands for a 4-way switch. DESCRIPTION Enter my hack. It allows diseqc commands to be defined on a per-card basis (numbered 1, 2, ...). How you determine which number corresponds to which card is left as an exercise for the reader (hint: the margin may not be big enough). These defines are placed in 'diseqc-multi.conf' and start with the card number but are otherwise the same format as those found in 'diseqc.conf'. CONFIGURATION Configuration options within VDR are: - use only the diseqc.conf defines, - use only the diseqc-multi.conf, - use the disqc-multi.conf if a card definition appears otherwise use the diseqc.conf defines. CAVEATS For my purpose this patch works well. I am aware there exist other multi-satellite/multi-card patches that may address a similar problem but I haven't used them. You'll have to wait a couple of days before I can pull it off my vdr box. Current version works with vdr-1.7.11. This patch has survived with minimal/no changes from at least the first vdr-1.6 releases. Sorry to whet your appetites without satiating them. Ian. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
I believe that GoToX and go to position is also very important. Could it be that maybe all the patches that have been published here so far we do not have Klaus fallen? Is it perhaps better to say that Klaus just once as he imagines that such patches have more opportunities to become integrated into VDR. Sorry for my English. 2010/2/2 Bikalexander bikalexan...@gmail.com Ich glaube, dass GotoX und Go to Position auch sehr wichtig ist. Kann es sein, dass vielleicht alle Patches die hier bis jetzt veröffentlicht wurden unserem Klaus nicht gefallen haben? Ist es vielleicht sinnvoller, dass Klaus einfach mal sagt wie er es sich vorstellt, damit solche Patches mehr Chancen haben in VDR intergriert zu werden. Sorry für mein English. 2010/2/2 Ian Bates ian_and_joa...@talktalk.net On 1 Feb 2010, at 22:24, abbe normal wrote: On 2/1/10, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Halim Sahin halim.sa...@t-online.de wrote: Hi List and Klaus, It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in vdr. I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is difficult for endusers. Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands. A simple interface for creating a diseqc.conf can improove the usability of vdr! Personally I think adding support for multiple diseqc switches is a more important feature as I've noticed several users asking how to do this in VDR -- which it unfortunately doesn't support. I think this is actually one of the reasons some guys fumble around trying to cascade their diseqc switches. However, not all switches can be cascaded and so they're left stuck. Can't cascade, and no support for multiple switches. hey guys i agree multi cards should be able to use mutli diseqc configs... or at least be able to assign them to different switches that could be used... would be nice to add more dishes and lnbs to my setup... would like to do c and ku band dvb as well as have at least 2 to 3 fixed dishes with lnbs on them now im limited to 4 max or use a very costly switch... abby Dear all, I have a diseqc-patch I that hacked together a couple of years ago relating to multi-cards/multi-switches that has served my purpose well. It may not be the best way, it may even be the wrong way. I will drag it out of the VDR box for all to see but that will not be for a couple of days. MOTIVATION I have three LNBs (28.2/5, 19.2, 13.0) and two cards, each card attached to a 4-way diseqc switch. Despite the switches being the same model and bought at the same time each one responds to a different set of diseqc commands to change LNB. IIRC one seemed to behave as a cascade of 2-way switches, the other responded to the more usual commands for a 4-way switch. DESCRIPTION Enter my hack. It allows diseqc commands to be defined on a per-card basis (numbered 1, 2, ...). How you determine which number corresponds to which card is left as an exercise for the reader (hint: the margin may not be big enough). These defines are placed in 'diseqc-multi.conf' and start with the card number but are otherwise the same format as those found in 'diseqc.conf'. CONFIGURATION Configuration options within VDR are: - use only the diseqc.conf defines, - use only the diseqc-multi.conf, - use the disqc-multi.conf if a card definition appears otherwise use the diseqc.conf defines. CAVEATS For my purpose this patch works well. I am aware there exist other multi-satellite/multi-card patches that may address a similar problem but I haven't used them. You'll have to wait a couple of days before I can pull it off my vdr box. Current version works with vdr-1.7.11. This patch has survived with minimal/no changes from at least the first vdr-1.6 releases. Sorry to whet your appetites without satiating them. Ian. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Bikalexander bikalexan...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that GoToX and go to position is also very important. Could it be that maybe all the patches that have been published here so far we do not have Klaus fallen? Is it perhaps better to say that Klaus just once as he imagines that such patches have more opportunities to become integrated into VDR. I think Klaus sometimes underestimates the number of VDR users (especially North American), their setups, and possibly not aware of their/our needs. In all honestly the number of users I see on the forums this mailing list don't even come close to accurately representing the real number of users. It can be hard sometimes to imagine different setup needs when your sample pool is relatively small by comparison. That's why I'm _constantly_ asking people to at least join the mailing list and participate. Now to figure out how to actually make them do it! ;) Cheers ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Halim Sahin halim.sa...@t-online.de wrote: Hi List and Klaus, It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in vdr. I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is difficult for endusers. Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands. A simple interface for creating a diseqc.conf can improove the usability of vdr! Personally I think adding support for multiple diseqc switches is a more important feature as I've noticed several users asking how to do this in VDR -- which it unfortunately doesn't support. I think this is actually one of the reasons some guys fumble around trying to cascade their diseqc switches. However, not all switches can be cascaded and so they're left stuck. Can't cascade, and no support for multiple switches. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
hey guys i agree multi cards should be able to use mutli diseqc configs... or at least be able to assign them to different switches that could be used... would be nice to add more dishes and lnbs to my setup... would like to do c and ku band dvb as well as have at least 2 to 3 fixed dishes with lnbs on them now im limited to 4 max or use a very costly switch... abby On 2/1/10, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Halim Sahin halim.sa...@t-online.de wrote: Hi List and Klaus, It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in vdr. I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is difficult for endusers. Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands. A simple interface for creating a diseqc.conf can improove the usability of vdr! Personally I think adding support for multiple diseqc switches is a more important feature as I've noticed several users asking how to do this in VDR -- which it unfortunately doesn't support. I think this is actually one of the reasons some guys fumble around trying to cascade their diseqc switches. However, not all switches can be cascaded and so they're left stuck. Can't cascade, and no support for multiple switches. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] feature request easy diseqc setup and channelscan for vdr
On 1 Feb 2010, at 22:24, abbe normal wrote: On 2/1/10, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Halim Sahin halim.sa...@t-online.de wrote: Hi List and Klaus, It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in vdr. I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is difficult for endusers. Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands. A simple interface for creating a diseqc.conf can improove the usability of vdr! Personally I think adding support for multiple diseqc switches is a more important feature as I've noticed several users asking how to do this in VDR -- which it unfortunately doesn't support. I think this is actually one of the reasons some guys fumble around trying to cascade their diseqc switches. However, not all switches can be cascaded and so they're left stuck. Can't cascade, and no support for multiple switches. hey guys i agree multi cards should be able to use mutli diseqc configs... or at least be able to assign them to different switches that could be used... would be nice to add more dishes and lnbs to my setup... would like to do c and ku band dvb as well as have at least 2 to 3 fixed dishes with lnbs on them now im limited to 4 max or use a very costly switch... abby Dear all, I have a diseqc-patch I that hacked together a couple of years ago relating to multi-cards/multi-switches that has served my purpose well. It may not be the best way, it may even be the wrong way. I will drag it out of the VDR box for all to see but that will not be for a couple of days. MOTIVATION I have three LNBs (28.2/5, 19.2, 13.0) and two cards, each card attached to a 4-way diseqc switch. Despite the switches being the same model and bought at the same time each one responds to a different set of diseqc commands to change LNB. IIRC one seemed to behave as a cascade of 2-way switches, the other responded to the more usual commands for a 4-way switch. DESCRIPTION Enter my hack. It allows diseqc commands to be defined on a per-card basis (numbered 1, 2, ...). How you determine which number corresponds to which card is left as an exercise for the reader (hint: the margin may not be big enough). These defines are placed in 'diseqc-multi.conf' and start with the card number but are otherwise the same format as those found in 'diseqc.conf'. CONFIGURATION Configuration options within VDR are: - use only the diseqc.conf defines, - use only the diseqc-multi.conf, - use the disqc-multi.conf if a card definition appears otherwise use the diseqc.conf defines. CAVEATS For my purpose this patch works well. I am aware there exist other multi-satellite/multi-card patches that may address a similar problem but I haven't used them. You'll have to wait a couple of days before I can pull it off my vdr box. Current version works with vdr-1.7.11. This patch has survived with minimal/no changes from at least the first vdr-1.6 releases. Sorry to whet your appetites without satiating them. Ian. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
