Re: [vdr] vdr-xine breakage with Freeview HD
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Darren Salt lists...@moreofthesa.me.uk wrote: I demand that Daniel Harris may or may not have written... I had lots of problems specifically with BBC freeview HD using vdr-xine-plugin. I use debian wheezy with the e-tobi source. I had a feeling it had something to do with the deinterlacing plugin but i could never get it to work however i have recently changed the deinterlacing plugin to bob in the ~/.xine/config-xineliboutput (or something like that) and every thing has worked perfectly ever since. Well... reporting on http://bugs.xine-project.org/ when it fails will help a lot with fixing these things. You'll need to be able to show how to cause it and/or provide a backtrace (and, 99.999% of the time, you will need a debuggable build for that; also best to be using xine-lib-1.2 hg). Just for the record when I said Lots of problems:- It can be problematic (for non experts) to setup vdr and all the relevant plugins, gui addons etc. I was informed on this mailing list that other people were viewing bbc HD with no problems so I thought i had not configured everything correctly. And this seems to be the case, as I indicated, once I set interlacing to bob all worked correctly. Actually now i think about it it was i am using xineliboutput-sxfe which i think might be different to the vdr-xine-plugin. That is why i didnt report a bug. Dan because quite frankly i am not exactly sure what I am doing except trying to watch and record tv. I've recently fixed one deinterlacing-related segfault which would occur at the end of an HD recording... [snip] -- | _ | Darren Salt, using Debian GNU/Linux (and Android) | ( ) | | X | ASCII Ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail | / \ | http://www.asciiribbon.org/ CAD: Can't Anybody Draw? ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] vdr-xine breakage with Freeview HD
I demand that Daniel Harris may or may not have written... I had lots of problems specifically with BBC freeview HD using vdr-xine-plugin. I use debian wheezy with the e-tobi source. I had a feeling it had something to do with the deinterlacing plugin but i could never get it to work however i have recently changed the deinterlacing plugin to bob in the ~/.xine/config-xineliboutput (or something like that) and every thing has worked perfectly ever since. Well... reporting on http://bugs.xine-project.org/ when it fails will help a lot with fixing these things. You'll need to be able to show how to cause it and/or provide a backtrace (and, 99.999% of the time, you will need a debuggable build for that; also best to be using xine-lib-1.2 hg). I've recently fixed one deinterlacing-related segfault which would occur at the end of an HD recording... [snip] -- | _ | Darren Salt, using Debian GNU/Linux (and Android) | ( ) | | X | ASCII Ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail | / \ | http://www.asciiribbon.org/ CAD: Can't Anybody Draw? ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] vdr-xine breakage with Freeview HD
On Monday 10 September 2012 - 17:35:15, Darren Salt wrote: CAD: Can't Anybody Draw? You made my day :D cheers Gero ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] vdr-xine breakage with Freeview HD
I had lots of problems specifically with BBC freeview HD using vdr-xine-plugin. I use debian wheezy with the e-tobi source. I had a feeling it had something to do with the deinterlacing plugin but i could never get it to work however i have recently changed the deinterlacing plugin to bob in the ~/.xine/config-xineliboutput (or something like that) and every thing has worked perfectly ever since. HTH Dan On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Laurence Abbott l...@club-burniston.co.uk wrote: On 7 September 2012 02:28, Darren Salt lists...@moreofthesa.me.uk wrote: I've noticed audio brokenness with vdr-xine 0.9.4 and (at least) the BBC channels on Freeview HD. Recordings are fine and are played back without problem if played directly rather than via vdr. There's a sample recording (tarball, with b0rked filename due to the lack of decoding in stock Debian vdr) at http://tartarus.org/ds/bbchdvdr.tar (file size is 84172800 bytes; still being uploaded when I sent this). I've never really had that much success with HD channels on Freeview, although it seemed more stable with live TV rather than HD recordings. For me (I think! I tend not to bother trying most of the time!), I get both video and audio but after a while the video will freeze but the audio carries on. If I play back an HD recording, this will probably happen after a couple of minutes or so. Due to this, I didn't really both trying again until recently! I gave it another go when the olympics was on and BBC 1 HD played live fairly happily for hours on end. Every now and then the video would freeze but this could be fixed by switching to another channel and back (audio carries on quite happily otherwise!). The time between video freezes seems to be random so could be caused by an error in the stream that cannot be corrected, or something like that?! Every now and then, I update xineliboutput + libxine + ffmpeg to the latest cvs / hg / git source (and I can never remember which is which version control system!). I'm currently on all of those from near the end of July. I keep hoping it will suddenly just work but it hasn't really changed much in this respect that I can see. Also with vdr-1.7.29. For SD recordings it is much more stable although skipping multiple times in quick succession usually locks it up and requires vdr-sxfe to be restarted! It's a bit of a pain but I've (nearly?!) learned to live with that! Laz ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] vdr-xine breakage with Freeview HD
On 2012-09-07 03:28, Darren Salt wrote: I've noticed audio brokenness with vdr-xine 0.9.4 and (at least) the BBC channels on Freeview HD. Recordings are fine and are played back without problem if played directly rather than via vdr. There's a sample recording (tarball, with b0rked filename due to the lack of decoding in stock Debian vdr) at http://tartarus.org/ds/bbchdvdr.tar (file size is 84172800 bytes; still being uploaded when I sent this). By 'played back ... directly' do you mean played back with xine, too, or with another player? I used to have loads of problems with xine and AAC LATM encoded audio on my VDR rig, and mplayer tells me that your BBC recordings uses exactly that format: ... Playing 2012-09-07.02.07.54-0.rec/1.ts. libavformat version 54.1.100 (internal) TS file format detected. VIDEO H264(pid=101) AUDIO AAC LATM(pid=102) SUB DVB(pid=105) PROGRAM N. 132 AFAICT support for LATM audio was only added in xinelib-1.1.19 and later: http://old.nabble.com/-PATCH--Add-AAC-LATM-support-from-FFmpeg-0.7%2B-td32355161.html The LATM channels finally started working here when I upgraded to VDR+xineliboutput from the yavdr unstable packages. My install is a bit dated but I suppose it works with more recent versions than these, too: ii libavcodec534:0.7.6-0ubuntu0.11.10. Libav codec library ii libxine21.2.1.hg20120511.1541-0 the xine video/media player library, binary files ii vdr 1.7.22-2yavdr1~oneiric Video Disk Recorder for DVB cards ii vdr-plugin-xineliboutpu 1.0.7+cvs20120511.1602- VDR plugin for Xine based sofdevice frontends ii xine-ui 0.99.7~hg20120217-0yavd the xine video player, user interface Additionally I just tested that your recording plays with audio when played directly in xine on my LMDE (Debian Testing based) laptop with the following packages: ii libavcodec53 5:0.10-0.1 Library to encode decode multimedia streams - runtime files. ii libxine2 1:1.2.1-0.1 Xine media player library, meta-package (development branch). ii xine-ui 0.99.7~hg20120125-1 the xine video player, user interface So perhaps you need a more recent xine/libav combo. Cheers, Jonas ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] vdr-xine breakage with Freeview HD
I demand that Jonas Bardino may or may not have written... On 2012-09-07 03:28, Darren Salt wrote: I've noticed audio brokenness with vdr-xine 0.9.4 and (at least) the BBC channels on Freeview HD. Recordings are fine and are played back without problem if played directly rather than via vdr. There's a sample recording (tarball, with b0rked filename due to the lack of decoding in stock Debian vdr) at http://tartarus.org/ds/bbchdvdr.tar (file size is 84172800 bytes; still being uploaded when I sent this). By 'played back ... directly' do you mean played back with xine, too, or with another player? Anything using xine-lib. I used to have loads of problems with xine and AAC LATM encoded audio on my VDR rig, and mplayer tells me that your BBC recordings uses exactly that format: ... Playing 2012-09-07.02.07.54-0.rec/1.ts. libavformat version 54.1.100 (internal) TS file format detected. VIDEO H264(pid=101) AUDIO AAC LATM(pid=102) SUB DVB(pid=105) PROGRAM N. 132 That's equivalent to what I got from ffplay when doing some other testing. (I'm fairly sure that xine-lib's DVB plugin is a little broken wrt Freeview HD.) AFAICT support for LATM audio was only added in xinelib-1.1.19 and later: Well... it's safe to assume that I'll have at least the current 1.2 release installed ;-) The LATM channels finally started working here when I upgraded to VDR+xineliboutput from the yavdr unstable packages. My install is a bit dated but I suppose it works with more recent versions than these, too: [snip; what I have is mostly current wheezy] Given that the file could be played back without problem without vdr-plugin-xine, I'm fairly sure that that's where the problem lies. I'll have to give the other output method a test soonish. -- | _ | Darren Salt, using Debian GNU/Linux (and Android) | ( ) | | X | ASCII Ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail | / \ | http://www.asciiribbon.org/ Have *you* exported a crypto system today? ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] vdr-xine breakage with Freeview HD
I demand that I definitely did write... [snip] I'll have to give the other output method a test soonish. vdr-plugin-xineliboutput libxine2-xvdr work fine, in as much as the recording which I made earlier is played back fine (if a little quietly). gxine needed a small patch to enable the existing vdr support to work with xvdr. This change is now present in the (upstream) repository; I doubt that I'll be able to get it into wheezy. -- | _ | Darren Salt, using Debian GNU/Linux (and Android) | ( ) | | X | ASCII Ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail | / \ | http://www.asciiribbon.org/ The descent to Hades is the same from every place. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] vdr-xine breakage with Freeview HD
On 7 September 2012 02:28, Darren Salt lists...@moreofthesa.me.uk wrote: I've noticed audio brokenness with vdr-xine 0.9.4 and (at least) the BBC channels on Freeview HD. Recordings are fine and are played back without problem if played directly rather than via vdr. There's a sample recording (tarball, with b0rked filename due to the lack of decoding in stock Debian vdr) at http://tartarus.org/ds/bbchdvdr.tar (file size is 84172800 bytes; still being uploaded when I sent this). I've never really had that much success with HD channels on Freeview, although it seemed more stable with live TV rather than HD recordings. For me (I think! I tend not to bother trying most of the time!), I get both video and audio but after a while the video will freeze but the audio carries on. If I play back an HD recording, this will probably happen after a couple of minutes or so. Due to this, I didn't really both trying again until recently! I gave it another go when the olympics was on and BBC 1 HD played live fairly happily for hours on end. Every now and then the video would freeze but this could be fixed by switching to another channel and back (audio carries on quite happily otherwise!). The time between video freezes seems to be random so could be caused by an error in the stream that cannot be corrected, or something like that?! Every now and then, I update xineliboutput + libxine + ffmpeg to the latest cvs / hg / git source (and I can never remember which is which version control system!). I'm currently on all of those from near the end of July. I keep hoping it will suddenly just work but it hasn't really changed much in this respect that I can see. Also with vdr-1.7.29. For SD recordings it is much more stable although skipping multiple times in quick succession usually locks it up and requires vdr-sxfe to be restarted! It's a bit of a pain but I've (nearly?!) learned to live with that! Laz ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
