[Veritas-bu] Is the veritas-bu list still alive?

2017-05-28 Thread W. Curtis Preston
I know I've been gone for a while, but I was surprised to see the archives stopped in 2016. Did something happen I don't know about? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu

Re: [Veritas-bu] Synthetic Backups

2009-07-08 Thread W. Curtis Preston
Nope. You verified what I believed to be the case. Although the documentation suggests otherwise, and something that the original poster is experiencing does as well, it's nice to see that it works as I thought it should -- at least somewhere. ;) Thanks. -Original Message- From:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Synthetic Backups

2009-07-07 Thread W. Curtis Preston
And you're verifying that the original full does not need to be kept around? -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Crowey Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:55 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU

Re: [Veritas-bu] Policy types

2009-05-16 Thread W. Curtis Preston
To each his own, of course, but I believe the one client per policy setup is actually just as easy, if not easier to manage than the multiple clients per policy type. I laid out my reasoning for this a while back: http://www.backupcentral.com/content/view/51/47/ -Original Message-

Re: [Veritas-bu] Clean up disk space on Data Domain

2009-03-20 Thread W. Curtis Preston
If you're using the VTL, all you really have to do is re-label the tapes in NBU after they're expired. That tells DD that it can erase the rest of what's on the tape. That's the case with any VTL. If you're using the file interface, it deletes the files for you when they expire. _

Re: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication

2009-03-18 Thread W. Curtis Preston
Actually, TOP said he had backed up to an EDL/3DL (EMC Quantum box). Jeff (Kaplan), Is it possible to use tape shadowing on the replicated system, so that the backup to one virtual tape, replicate to another virtual tape, then eject that virtual tape to create a physical tape?

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to properly calculate the Catalog

2009-03-16 Thread W. Curtis Preston
You make some good points, Bob. -Original Message- From: bob944 [mailto:bob...@attglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 6:47 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Cc: wcplis...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] How to properly calculate the Catalog That formula in the manual

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to properly calculate the Catalog

2009-03-14 Thread W. Curtis Preston
Todd, That formula in the manual is completely worthless. I can't believe they still publish it. The SIZE of the data you're backing up has NOTHING to do with the size of the index. What matters is the number of files or objects. I could backup a 200 TB database with a smaller NBU

Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domaintotapew/netbackup 6.5

2009-03-09 Thread W. Curtis Preston
If you ask me, you should be considering the OST interface, not the VTL interface. It will give you a bigger boost in performance than the VTL interface will, from what they've been publishing lately. In addition, in a few months, OST will support copying to tape via OST. You'll get better

Re: [Veritas-bu] Special Tapes to policies

2009-02-27 Thread W. Curtis Preston
I guess my question is to question the requirement to do this. I've never been a fan of special backups going to special tapes. I'm relatively OK with segregating backups (e.g. Oracle on its own tapes, etc), but who cares what backups go to what tapes? Just let NBU put it on whatever tape it

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiple Master for Single Client

2009-02-09 Thread W. Curtis Preston
Good point. -Original Message- From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:mark.donald...@staples.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:28 AM To: W. Curtis Preston; Justin Piszcz; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Multiple Master for Single Client Note: Anything initiated

Re: [Veritas-bu] Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable

2009-01-18 Thread W. Curtis Preston
And IMHO, anyone with a retention policy should also have a relabeling policy. When a tape goes into scratch, you should have a script relabel it. If you do this on a regular basis, you're protected. If all you do is expire it without relabeling it, a savvy plaintiff could ask you to re-import

Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable

2009-01-18 Thread W. Curtis Preston
Agreed. Simply relabeling the tape puts a EOD (END OF DATA) mark after the label. Every expert I've ever talking to says that getting past that is impossible. Therefore, my TECHNICAL opinion is that relabeling a tape falls under the 'reasonable man' standard for making sure a tape is unreadable

Re: [Veritas-bu] Searching Forum Archives

2008-12-30 Thread W. Curtis Preston
I prefer the format of the search at http://www.backupcentral.com/phpBB2 , but I may biased. :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Nardello, John john.narde...@wamu.net Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:46:10 To: Randy Samorarandy.sam...@stewart.com;

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetApp vs. SAN Media Server

2008-12-13 Thread Curtis Preston
Ed Wilts said: Snapshots appear to be full copies of the file system, whether anything has changed or not. It doesn't matter if you're modifying files, deleting files, or completely overwriting them. It's a good thing you're a backup expert and not claiming to be a NetApp expert :-) I know

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread Curtis Preston
to blog about the same. (Of course, I may use my own opinions...) ;) Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   cpres...@glasshouse.com |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread Curtis Preston
I am a proponent of the one-client-per-policy design. I've blogged about it: http://www.backupcentral.com/content/blogsection/4/47/ Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   cpres...@glasshouse.com

Re: [Veritas-bu] Best exclude list for Windows, solaris, linux ?

2008-12-12 Thread Curtis Preston
You can also use bpgetconfig and bpsetconfig. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   cpres...@glasshouse.com |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread Curtis Preston
method. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 cpres...@glasshouse.com | www.glasshouse.com http://www.glasshouse.com/ Infrastructure :: Optimized

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread Curtis Preston
Hmmm... Looks like I've got some testing to do. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   cpres...@glasshouse.com |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From

Re: [Veritas-bu] Urgent: Help Needed Getting backup data without logfiles

2008-11-14 Thread Curtis Preston
bpimagelist will give you that for as far back as you have image history. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original

Re: [Veritas-bu] Urgent: Help Needed Getting backup data withoutlogfiles

2008-11-14 Thread Curtis Preston
bpmedialist Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: Peacock Dennis - dpeaco [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi

2008-11-10 Thread Curtis Preston
- I don't think it's really accurate to refer to OST as a protocol although I have seen DD do it, it's an API but this is really just semantics. You'll get no argument from me there. I think it fits the LOOSE definition of protocol, but I agree that it's better to call it an API. In its

Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi

2008-11-09 Thread Curtis Preston
NAS/CIFS sucks for any backup you actually care about throughput on IMHO. OST isn't NAS/CIFS. It's a completely different protocol. Tests on DD show it to be at least 100% faster than CIFS. (FWIW) Also, it can be done over Fibre Channel, as some other vendors are working on. --It's a

Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi

2008-11-07 Thread Curtis Preston
- Data Domain seemed to be pushing the NAS/CIFS side a lot more than their VTL. OpenStorage is great and all but you limit yourself to LAN speeds. Agreed, but wait til they release 10 Gb. Also, OST doesn't limit you to LAN speeds -- DD's implementation of it does. Ask Quantum about theirs.

Re: [Veritas-bu] Serious bug w/ 6.5.2 (and beyond?): perpetually requeueing j

2008-11-04 Thread Curtis Preston
Gabe, You can respond privately by sending a message to the email address listed at the bottom of the post. (it's automatically put there) Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers

2008-10-30 Thread Curtis Preston
I've actually done it in the lab. It's totally unsupported and the throughput is absolute crap. Don't bother. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com

Re: [Veritas-bu] Poll: How many times do you use a cleaning tape?

2008-10-25 Thread Curtis Preston
That would be every couple of days in a few shops. Where did you read that? My understanding was what the previous folks said, that it was an on-demand thing. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710

Re: [Veritas-bu] / + Cross All Mnt Pts Vs. ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES

2008-10-24 Thread Curtis Preston
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES policy that excludes everything else. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [Veritas-bu] / + Cross All Mnt Pts Vs. ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES

2008-10-24 Thread Curtis Preston
, the value provided by the method you're espousing is significantly outweighed by the risk created by manually maintaining include lists. I'm much more concerned that something will get missed than I am that I'm going to give the OS drive a little exercise for a few minutes per day. Curtis

Re: [Veritas-bu] / + Cross All Mnt Pts Vs. ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES

2008-10-21 Thread Curtis Preston
with one stream. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com http://www.glasshouse.com/ Infrastructure :: Optimized

Re: [Veritas-bu] Duplicating Image

2008-10-18 Thread Curtis Preston
Have you tested inline copy? My experience has been that it doesn't impact performance as much as you might think. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com

Re: [Veritas-bu] Legato vs. NetBackup

2008-10-03 Thread Curtis Preston
Hear, hear! What he said! Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

Re: [Veritas-bu] Avamar?

2008-09-26 Thread Curtis Preston
there. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com http://www.glasshouse.com/ Infrastructure :: Optimized

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Disk Staging Area Problem

2008-09-10 Thread Curtis Preston
Something's not right here. You say you have Fibre Channel arrays connected to a SAN, and then the media server connected to that SAN. Why would CIFS and UNC path names ever come into play? Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1

Re: [Veritas-bu] Okay now , this isn't funny---Sun T5140/CMT card

2008-09-07 Thread Curtis Preston
And how much did that set you back? Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup - restore Novell b/u to Windows server

2008-08-22 Thread Curtis Preston
That's definitely a question for support, especially given that it's Friday night. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized

[Veritas-bu] NetBackup Administrative Tasks

2008-08-21 Thread Curtis Preston
activities is complete. Thanks in advance for any help. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com http

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Administrative Tasks

2008-08-21 Thread Curtis Preston
It's currently untitled. As my last book focused on free/open-source backup, this book will go the opposite way. How to pick, install, and manage a commercial backup system, including all of its various flavors (CDP, near-CDP, dedupe, etc). It will be for O'Reilly. Curtis Preston  |  VP

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Administrative Tasks

2008-08-21 Thread Curtis Preston
Absolutely. I never forget my friends. :) Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: Conner, Neil

Re: [Veritas-bu] Shared Stroage Options (SSO) with Vitual TapeLibrary (VTL)

2008-08-08 Thread Curtis Preston
Not all dedupe vendors dedupe the way you're describing, but it is a common recommendation to turn off multiplexing. (Only one or two vendors claim not to care.) Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1

Re: [Veritas-bu] install_client_files over ssh using a different port

2008-08-07 Thread Curtis Preston
by obscurity. Any serious hacker would do a port scan and find it anyway. IMHO, all you're doing is making your job harder. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup

2008-08-04 Thread Curtis Preston
That is exactly what I'm saying -- even if they're multiplexed together. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original

Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup

2008-08-02 Thread Curtis Preston
No, if you kick off 5 restores within the period specified by MPX_RESTORE_DELAY, all five restores will run at the same time. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup

2008-08-01 Thread Curtis Preston
. That's why I always did my multi-filesystem restores as a loop for I in /a /b /c /d /e do bprestore $I done Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760

Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup

2008-08-01 Thread Curtis Preston
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup

2008-08-01 Thread Curtis Preston
Nope, that's the only way. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com http://www.glasshouse.com/ Infrastructure

Re: [Veritas-bu] Disable alternate client restores

2008-07-31 Thread Curtis Preston
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disable alternate client restores

2008-07-31 Thread Curtis Preston
. ;) (For those playing at home, that's coal or petroleum coke (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke_(fuel)), and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_coke) not Cocaine or Coca-Cola, OK?) Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup verify at write time

2008-07-31 Thread Curtis Preston
Jeff Lightner said: FDA Validation requirements make S-OX look like a walk in the park. What HE said! This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in

Re: [Veritas-bu] Exagrid

2008-07-30 Thread Curtis Preston
Jim Horalek said: I think were slamming one vendor prematurely. All these de-dup devices work. No they don't! I've tested some that flat out didn't work, or worked so poorly that I wouldn't give them to my worst enemy. But they are not all the same. They all have different features and

Re: [Veritas-bu] Exagrid

2008-07-30 Thread Curtis Preston
(if that's how it does it) decreases significantly as your retention period increases. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized

Re: [Veritas-bu] Exagrid

2008-07-30 Thread Curtis Preston
How do any of these devices compare in a large vaulting environment where you may have simultanious backups and duplications. Some do way better than others. ;) This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom

Re: [Veritas-bu] Exagrid

2008-07-30 Thread Curtis Preston
was significantly faster or bigger or less expensive than the other. Do you care how they pulled it off? As long as it doesn't change my ability to use it, I certainly don't care. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup verify at write time

2008-07-29 Thread Curtis Preston
Bpverify verifies far less than you think it does. The more I learned about it, the less interested I was in it. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Java GUI authentication on AIX

2008-07-14 Thread Curtis Preston
, then HP shortly after (often at the same time), then AIX (a distance third that often doesn't catch up). Now if you want to replace NBU with TSM, then AIX would be a great server! (Not that I'm recommending that, mind you.) ;) Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc

Re: [Veritas-bu] bpsetconfig in 6.5.2

2008-07-03 Thread Curtis Preston
Don't think it's in 6.5.2, but I could be wrong. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From

Re: [Veritas-bu] Non-root administration

2008-07-02 Thread Curtis Preston
realize the non-root-admin script was gone. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com http://www.glasshouse.com

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to get list of NBU Media Server by Commandline

2008-07-02 Thread Curtis Preston
I use bpstulist and grep/awk my way to happiness. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From

Re: [Veritas-bu] HP Data Protector Comparisons to Netbackup

2008-07-01 Thread Curtis Preston
Todd, I mistyped the URL to the Data Protector forum. It's here: http://tinyurl.com/4n67tt As you can see, it's significantly smaller than this forum, but it's only about a year old. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection

Re: [Veritas-bu] Linux

2008-07-01 Thread Curtis Preston
Since BMR is now in the base license, I completely concur. If we're talking about a non-NBU client, though, you can always use my free method: http://tinyurl.com/2l3cf5 Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies

Re: [Veritas-bu] FYI - Symantec made a change to their FTP(nolongerallows list)

2008-06-01 Thread Curtis Preston
Jonathan Martin said: I didn't say anything about hackers. I said pirates. I meant the same people you meant. I just used a different word. I was a bit drunk on jet lag after a 24 hour flight when I typed that response. ;) And if you don't think piracy is such a big deal how about

Re: [Veritas-bu] FYI - Symantec made a change to their FTP(nolongerallows list)

2008-05-29 Thread Curtis Preston
like DRM, all this does is make it harder for real people to do their job. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Veritas-bu] FYI - Symantec made a change to their FTP (no longerallows list)

2008-05-28 Thread Curtis Preston
Now THAT'S just ridiculous Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers

2008-05-24 Thread Curtis Preston
Because many people use their master server as a media server. Symantec's not going to support it as a master server unless it can also be a media server. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009

Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers

2008-05-23 Thread Curtis Preston
that? Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers

2008-05-23 Thread Curtis Preston
What's terrible about me running it in a lab? I'm just doing functionality testing of different backup products. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com

Re: [Veritas-bu] Command Line for Master Server Properties

2008-05-22 Thread Curtis Preston
Print out a bpclient -client client -L output on the client that's misbehaving. That's where the master server properties are being stored. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1

Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers

2008-05-22 Thread Curtis Preston
It works for me just fine, but I don't think it's supported. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message

Re: [Veritas-bu] Command Line for Master Server Properties

2008-05-21 Thread Curtis Preston
There are also client properties created using the bpclient command. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com

Re: [Veritas-bu] ndmp cross-platform restore compatibility

2008-05-21 Thread Curtis Preston
original format (e.g. dump/tar/cpio), each vendor hacked the format in their own way to be able to store windows data. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com

Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers

2008-05-21 Thread Curtis Preston
it to be too difficult or unreliable. BUT, I'm trying to figure out why anyone would do that in production. Performance SUCKS! Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Veritas-bu] Top 20 (or so) misunderstood things about NBU

2008-05-09 Thread Curtis Preston
Great additions to the list. Thanks! Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 |  F: F: +1 760 710 2009   [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Veritas-bu] Top 20 (or so) misunderstood things about NBU

2008-05-09 Thread Curtis Preston
If only I had that power. Believe it or not, I have to pay for my own book, albeit with a nice discount. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Manual Backup - can't see restore

2008-05-01 Thread Curtis Preston
After all these years, it still cracks me up that NetBackup calls Unix Standard, which makes Windows and all other platforms, non-standard. :) --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTLs

2008-05-01 Thread Curtis Preston
.) Therefore, multiplexing absolutely CAN remove all deduplication capability, depending on the vendor you're using and how the stars line up. With some vendors, it will make your dedupe ratio 1:1. With others, it will not affect it at all. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-05-01 Thread Curtis Preston
performance of a large restore. Multiplexing with VTLs usually hurt less, because usually the resulting slower speed is still faster than what the client can write at. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message

Re: [Veritas-bu] Deduping with Tape as a final destination

2008-04-27 Thread Curtis Preston
CommVault is doing file-level dedupe. Their point is that we already have the file on tape, why back it up again. What you're asking about is sub-file-level dedupe, which would be silly to copy to tape in it's deduped format, for all the reasons others have stated. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup

Re: [Veritas-bu] Deduping with Tape as a final destination

2008-04-24 Thread Curtis Preston
The VTL will redupe it when handing it to NBU to copy to tape, but that should happen at line speed and not affect the speed of your copy. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore reports

2008-04-17 Thread Curtis Preston
Have you tried running bperror and grepping for Successfully Completed Restore or something like that? (I'm doing this from memory, so the actual spelling and case may be different.) You will be able to go as far back as you keep bperror logs. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog

Re: [Veritas-bu] Sharing drive in multiple NB domains

2008-04-17 Thread Curtis Preston
Hello ! I am new to NB. I have two active NB 6.5 domains in one SAN. Is possible to share drives from tape libraries between two NB domains ( I have SSO option ) ? Not unless you partition the library to appear to NBU as two tape libraries. (Many libraries have that feature.) --- W. Curtis

Re: [Veritas-bu] VMotion - Supported for NBU 6.5 VCB Backups?

2008-04-15 Thread Curtis Preston
I'm gong to guess and say that NBU is not going to keep track of hosts moved by vmotion. Welcome to the land of virtualization. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Veritas-bu] Master Server on a SUN Thumper?

2008-04-15 Thread Curtis Preston
own head, that you can then put in front of your Cx array. (EMC will not, BTW. They will want you to buy the CDL/EDL, which is prepackaged.) --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies From: [EMAIL

Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

2008-04-15 Thread Curtis Preston
bpduplicate works. It will actually automatically figure out what hasn't been copied and copy it. If you are willing to pay for an extra-price product, Vault is very good and will automate everything and give you a bunch of options. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data

Re: [Veritas-bu] Mailing list replies before questions?

2008-04-11 Thread Curtis Preston
not SPAM, and accept or reject it appropriately. All it would take is one or two people who are a little more home-bodied than me (I travel constantly which often introduces very long delays on the approval process.) Anyone interested? --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 index size

2008-04-01 Thread Curtis Preston
Is it just the idea of a virtual volume that you don't like, or do you have another volume manager you like? Last time I looked, the dynamic disks functionality in Windows is based on a stripped down version of VxVM. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-04-01 Thread Curtis Preston
take the money I saved on that and buy a data protection management product. W. Curtis Preston ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu

Re: [Veritas-bu] Sizing experiences ?

2008-03-31 Thread Curtis Preston
or wrong for your management. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Graff Andersen Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:36 AM

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-31 Thread Curtis Preston
Actually, you're wrong here.  NetBackup allows you to create a policy now but not set it to go active until some point in the future.  I've used this and it works well. I'm familiar with that and do it all the time, but I don't like it here. First, what if I want to do this to an existing

Re: [Veritas-bu] Archiving vs Backups (a question for Mr. Backup andothers here)

2008-03-31 Thread Curtis Preston
. A good archive system does not unless you tell it to. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Small Sent: Monday, March 31

Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups

2008-03-28 Thread Curtis Preston
opinions like this to myself. The SPAM thing just made me feel like --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent

Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups

2008-03-25 Thread Curtis Preston
, and I see a few disadvantages. Riverbed, if you're listening, you haven't made a friend today by using my website to post SPAM, but I am willing to listen if you want to convince me otherwise. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ESX3

2008-03-24 Thread Curtis Preston
I actually think it was the filelist entry and not the shutting down that made it work. Did you try the changed filelist with the systems up? (You do need to snapshot them, though.) --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies

Re: [Veritas-bu] full DSUs in old NBU revs (was: something longer)

2008-03-24 Thread Curtis Preston
I'm almost positive that 6.5 supports DSU cascading in a single job, just like tape and virtual tape. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu- [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ESX3

2008-03-21 Thread Curtis Preston
isn't being auto-discovered. Anas, have you put the /volumes mount point in the file list? Also, make sure that you snapshot the vmdk files first. I found this preso that speaks to it: http://download3.vmware.com/vmworld/2006/tac9912.pdf --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog

Re: [Veritas-bu] Successful NDMP Backups Missing Data

2008-03-16 Thread Curtis Preston
bob944 said: Just FYI, there is no red in an ASCII mailing list. Just an FYI, it's not an ASCII mailing list, and I saw the red comments just fine. You are either using an ASCII-only email client, or have told your rich-text capable email client to display only plain text. That doesn't mean the

Re: [Veritas-bu] CommVault?

2008-03-16 Thread Curtis Preston
backup tapes you're retaining indefinitely? That's not what a backup product is for. That's what an archive product is for. IMHO, if you're keeping a backup tape longer than a year, you're asking for nothing but trouble. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data

Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL NetBackup Best Practice

2008-03-06 Thread Curtis Preston
around it if you need VTLs, such as for large clients that you want to use block disk for (and you also want dedupe). As I stated in my previous post, the only way to get both TODAY is to use VTLs. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse

Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL NetBackup Best Practice

2008-03-05 Thread Curtis Preston
Kevin Whittaker said: P.S. Actually I would say NOT to purchase a VTL. I believe with all the new great features in NB 6.5, make the Disk Staging Units to be the best options for most people. FWIW, I'm not even close to dumping VTLs. I hear this statement about twice a week, so I

Re: [Veritas-bu] NB Upgrade 3.4 to 6.5

2008-03-03 Thread Curtis Preston
professional services? Call it self serving if you want, but Jared had it right. Your upgrade falls into the WOW category. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

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