Has anyone seen similar to these and have any insight into what they
mean or what action they suggest if any?
We're running NBU 6.5.1 Master on HP-UX 11.11:
We had a drive down in NBU and it somehow came UP on the master around
the time of these messages. I'm assuming they relate to the
You didn't say what you used to compress the files or what Operating
System you're using.
I saw an issue recently where one of our DBAs had compressed and sent to
tar a file but was later unable to uncompress/untar it.
This was because the tar and gzip/gunzip commands on HP-UX 11.11 are
but a proprietary Sun version.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:10 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Post Restorastion issue
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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:48 AM
To: Jeff Lightner
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Post Restorastion issue.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Jeff Lightner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This was because the tar
We have a couple of old HP-UX 10.20 systems. We use a small master
running NBU 5.1 with a two drive unit to back those up. We were no
longer able to back them up to our main master after upgrade to NBU 6.0.
We do backup our HP-UX 11.0, 11.11 and 11.2x boxes to the NBU 6.x
master. You can
We typically segregate OS and basic install backups from Application and
Database backups so would never use the ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES. For any
given host we might have multiple policies depending on how many
different environments it is supporting. (For example we have one
server that has Oracle
You can just write a shell script that runs the bpduplicate. Not sure
why anyone would think this would require an Oracle backup.
Another option with that short a window is to simply do in line backup
copy where you actually write the backup twice as it is running. We do
that with our
I saw a similar stop of everything else once when a full catalog backup
was running. At the time I was pretty sure that was why nothing else
was going but it was maddening there was no way to positively confirm
this except by observation (that is to say everything else went to a
standstill at
Also check to see what sort of filesystem this is.
The last time I looked at archive solutions that left stub files (and it
has been a while) they often required you to use their own special
filesystem type. You'd hate to go through all the work only to find out
NBU doesn't recognize the
The difference in earlier delays was that some of the earlier 6.x
implementations were viewed as highly unstable by users.
Now though most users think it is at least stable even if not
optimal so there isn't really reason not to move forward. It seems
likely most of the folks that haven't
Typically when vendors say no support what they really mean is best
effort without guarantee. They'll often try to assist but once they
run into an issue they can't easily resolve they'll fall back on no
support to avoid spending a lot of time. The downside to waiting long
after no support to
Iron Mountain doesn't do their own pickup and delivery in your area?
They do here.
Also the problem with testing after return is that most people have the
tapes returned automatically only AFTER they expire. You'd end up
having to reimport the tape then restoring unless you made a special
return
that occurring to filling up /.
From: Rosenkoetter, Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:21 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; Kelly B Harris; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Can't access policies from Java GUI
Kelly,
We turned off NOM and that seemed to clear it up back then. The rest
of the thread form May including Ken Zufall who had suggested NOM was
the issue. I guess I forgot to post that it cleared the problem for us.
From: Jeff Lightner
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:04 AM
To: [EMAIL
Yeah I installed SP3 this morning and had no issues.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:04 AM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.x
Anyone have any information about this. One of my co-workers reports
the GUI won't close on an XP system he allowed to upgrade to Service
Pack 3.
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You might want to put in a loop after the stop that checks to see if all
processes are actually stopped (e.g. check bpps -a output) and run
installdir/ bin/goodies/bp.kill_all to kill any remaining if it finds
them and repeat until it does (with sleeps between to give all processes
time to die).
:41 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Process which runs while a job is running
Jeff,
When I tested the script on our master server it didn't send out the
notification that the services had been stopped until all the NBU
services had been brought
Are you doing raw device backups? I'm wondering why you'd be using
disk addresses on HP-UX. Even with raw devices if they're on LVM or
VxVM you'd be better off backing up the raw LV than the underlying
disks.
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[mailto:[EMAIL
Also remember the NBU installer is brain dead. If you did NOT already
have Xinetd or Inetd installed when you installed NBU it ASSUMES you
have inetd and creates an /etc/inetd.conf which has zero effect since
inetd itself isn't there to read it.
It appears you do have xinetd running. If you
Good point.
Firewall could be iptables on the host itself.
Try running service iptables stop then running the backup. If it
works then you know the issue is the iptables and you'll have to work on
opening the port for NBU to use. (You can turn iptables back on with
service iptables start.)
: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:45 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Need a command line command to change
theBackup Selection for Policies
We are mounting up disk to a Sun server, syncing and breaking the bcv's
and mounting them
The fact is based on this forum there ARE issues with 6.5.2. The tech you get
at Symantec may or may not be familiar with the specific problem you're having
and may or may not stumble across the binary patch that fixes it. There's been
at least one report on this list of an issue that
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Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 1:48 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: Jorge Fábregas; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgradering to NBU 6.5.2 soon because of Windows2008
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Lightner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
There is an Intel Linux (and I thought also RedHat Linux) for 2.6.x
kernels - that would be the correct one to install. We are backing up
RHEL5 from our HP-UX master without an issue.
If you don't have the 2.6.x client then you can install the 2.4.x kernel
client but you need to first
We've been using 6.5.1 on HP-UX and other than the error messages for
vaulting it seems relatively stable.
We've NOT upgraded to 6.5.2 or 6.5.2a mainly due to all the issues
reported on this list.
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Backups directed to /dev/null would be incredibly fast and just as
useful. :-)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:45 PM
To: Martin, Jonathan
Cc: Randy Samora; veritas-BU
Subject: Re:
I don't think so. NBU has to have root access to be able to read and
write all directories.
In the last S-OX environment I was in I don't believe we tried to do
this with NBU. Also in the FDA Validated environment (which makes
S-OX look like a walk in the park as far as regulations go) that
Hi,
We're running NBU 6.5.1 and have just rebooted everything (just as PM
thing - no issues were occurring).
Before boot I canceled all active jobs and waited for unmount.
After boot NBU seemed to start fine.
Activity monitor shows a Catalog backup occurring. Various commands I
issue
): Finished checkpoint
of NBDB (NBDB.db) at Fri Aug 15 2008 11:30
FYI: I did find a tech note regarding issues with DB that had similar
messages but not exactly the same. In that one the issue was lack of
space for NBEMM which isn't a problem here.
_
From: Jeff
A couple of times now when doing a long alternate server/alternate path
restore I've seen the speed of the restore drop dramatically (e.g. from
around 24 to 26 MB/s to around 600 KB/s) then speed up on occasion but
generally stay in that low range.
Normally we've seen the former range and we've
In general exclude lists work for directories as well as files so I'm
not sure why you stated they don't work for the former.
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Glazerman
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:53 AM
To: [EMAIL
My apologies.
You mentioned exclude lists multiple times so I guess my brain
interpreted the final sentence as exclude rather than include.
From: Mark Glazerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:53 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; [EMAIL
We've seen it here - just yesterday as a matter of fact.
See if nbemm is running. If not restart it. (I'd suggest restarting
from the Activity Monitor Daemons tab - when it dies it seems to dump
core in root for some reason.)
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In some places the System Admins are the NBU admins.
In others the NBU admins are a specialized team. In the 4 places I've
worked where NBU was installed only one of them had separate NBU Admins.
However, I frequently get inquiries from headhunters so it lets me know
there is a market for NBU
When I worked at a major pharmaceutical we had a procedure to do
periodic test restores and compare that to the data that should have
been there. This was always fun given things that don't backup such as
door files on Sun etc...
FDA Validation requirements make S-OX look like a walk in the
I've heard of Exagrid but have never used it - including the 4 jobs
where we used NBU as our backup solution.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin
Piszcz
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:37 AM
To: Fergus Donohue
Cc: veritas-BU
Subject:
DD doesn't pay me either but IMHO but the idea of inline dedupe made
more sense to us simply due to the fact we wouldn't have to find
rack/floor space for significantly increased storage required by post
dedupe.
FYI: EMC is pushing dedupe solutions as well. There is a also a
company called
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff
Lightner
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:15 AM
To: Andrew Stueve; veritas-BU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Exagrid
DD doesn't pay me either but IMHO but the idea of inline dedupe made
more
sense to us simply due to the fact we wouldn't have to find rack/floor
space
Once upon a time I worked on Andersen Consulting's Foundation CASE
software that used Informix for its repository. Whenever that DB
flaked out I had to use a mixed bag of Informix and AC steps to recreate
the DB. Simply recreating the schema and reloading dumped data never
worked which let me
i86pc and i386 both mean x86 to me...
The question is do they support Solaris 10 on x86 server to be the
master.
The binary for Solaris on SPARC would be incompatible with Solaris on
x86 so maybe they're just telling you they sent you the one for SPARC
rather than x86?
please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to
*From:* Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:51 AM
*To:* Mark Glazerman; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
*Subject:* RE: [Veritas-bu] Probably A Stupid Question
i86pc and i386 both mean x86 to me
Well - I'll agree with Curtis.
In large organizations unfortunately the backup tool isn't the only one
that will let you back door into root. However, one has to have
policies in place that make it clear that administrators of these tools
(if they are not also the System Admins) aren't
Fedora Core 2 is extremely old. You really might want to look at
upgrading to something more modern eventually.
If FC2 had a 2.4 kernel I'm guessing it will still work with NBU 6.x -
We had a RedHat 7.3 server (even older than Fedora Core 2) that we were
backing up until I retired it 2 weeks
For the second time I've noticed that a backup we created that had 3
simultaneous selections going to Data Domain (as it previously did to
tape) on restore is only doing a single selection. When we did this to
tape it would restore 3 different selections simultaneously just as it
had backed them
Glazerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:27 PM
To: Jeff Lightner; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Restore from Data Domain using 3 selections
Jeff,
The way that Data Domain restores is down to how you submit the restore
jobs from
You can backup your 5.x client with your 6.5.x master. We are doing it
here with RHEL 3.
Actually 6.5 still has a (Intel/Linux) RedHat 2.4 kernel client and that
will work since RHEL 3 is 2.4 kernel. We just haven't updated our
client yet. In fact you have to add compatibility libraries to
the
day.
From: Mark Glazerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:40 PM
To: Jeff Lightner; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Individual backup status emails
Jeff,
We've seen some strange stuff going on with our
Software export compliance != piracy
Software export compliance = Doing things the Government told you to do.
While its true there are many pirates outside U.S. it is also true there are
many in the U.S. He's just telling us the reasoning wasn't to make life hard
on customers but rather to
I've noticed since our upgrade to 6.5 that while we do get the
occasional individual non-zero status email for individual backups we're
obviously not getting them all.
We are getting the daily full status report and as noted do get some of
the individual ones but I don't see a pattern to what
Or get rid of the FTP and move onto something like SCP/SFTP or even
RSYNC that both requires users to login with assigned accounts AND
encrypts their precious software so they don't have the risk of download
stream being compromised.
However, I personally don't buy this argument. There are
mistakes so should never be
prompted to investigate the possibility if their experience with a given tool
seems atypical?
From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:10 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; Nick Anderson; Mike
I've seen issues with the Java GUI (installed on XP) because at one
point there were issues with a Java plugin that required me to add to
the directory. After upgrading to 6.0 I ended up needing to completely
remove the old Java GUI using the Add/Remove software and THEN had to go
manually
To see which media / backup IDs etc... were used for a given policy:
bpimmedia -L -policy policyname -d MM/DD/CCYY HH:MM:SS -e MM/DD/CCYY
HH:MM:SS
where -d = start time and -e = end time of the backup you're interested
in
Example: The backup IDs only pipe it to grep hostname_ as this is
Glad to see I'm not the only one that discovers unintended procedures.
:-)
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Kelley
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re:
Haven't played with FC drives yet but it isn't unusual in SAN
environments to create redundant connections to devices. Maybe they
come with two ports to allow for that?
Not sure how you'd get your OS to understand two paths to the same
drives though. Since NBU can distinguish busy drives on
I doubt you'll get much out of this proposal:
1) Some of the posts come from a on line forum.
2) You'll always have newbies who don't know the rules.
3) Sometimes the subject line is most relevant to the subject if a bit
lengthy and added details that could be put in the body in the subject
What kind of client?
On UNIX/Linux all the policy information is under
installpath/netbackup/db/class/policyname. The files there are
ascii text. He could send those to you.
Also not sure why you're saying he can only send text. Some mail
filters complain about things that don't have
What do you mean by x64. Linux x86_64? Itanium? Something else?
If it is Linux x86_64 bit you can install the 2.4 kernel client (32 bit)
and add compatibility libraries to make it work properly.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:44 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; WEAVER, Simon (external);
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] looking for x64 NBU 5.1 Client
Linux on x64 is referring to the AMD Opteron and Intel EM-64T
processors, so x86_64 would be correct
It doesn't since 6.0.
In fact in newer systems I've only opened the vnetd port in firewall and
NBU has figured out to only use that. You don't even have to tell it to
do that in the GUI any more.
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I'm not sure going from hpux to solaris is an upgrade. :p
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pekala,
Laura
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:04 PM
To: Justin Piszcz; Clooney, David
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu]
Actual raw capacities are published for the different media types. I
wouldn't waste NBU cycles attempting to determine it even if it could be
done which I doubt.
Also note that most tapes have both uncompressed (raw) and compressed
capacity numbers. Assuming your drive does hardware
Of WEAVER,
Simon (external)
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:46 AM
To: Dominik Pietrzykowski; Jeff Lightner;
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Best Practice: Location of the NetBackup
Catalog
Yes got that Dom. Yes, good thing about the SAN configuration is the way
the data
.
From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 6:11 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Best Practice: Location of the NetBackup Catalog
Jeff
I am struggling to find anything
We've stored our NBU on SAN attached storage since inception.
So long as you're doing catalog/database backups any failure whether on
internal drives or on SAN drives can be recovered from.
Since we also have our tape drives accesses via SAN from the master and
multiple media servers
To see which media / backup IDs etc... were used for a given policy:
bpimmedia -L -policy policy name -d MM/DD/CCYY HH:MM:SS -e
MM/DD/CCYY HH:MM:SS
where -d = start time and -e = end time of the backup you're interested
in (you might need -client flag if this is not on your master but on a
You can use bpexpdate to expire individual images or tapes.
You can expire ALL backups by doing the following:
!!!WARNING DON'T DO THIS UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT TO EXPIRE ALL DATA!!!
You can make NBU expire all images (other than those set to INFINITY
retention) simply by changing the date
Wow! 10 emails flogging already dead horses. Were you being held by the
police or something? :-)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon (external)
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:06 AM
To: Michael Schmarck
Cc:
41 errors are a bit nebulous at times. Often enough they don't really
indicate any problem with networking but rather with finishing the
job across the network which isn't quite the same thing.
We have one environment here that will give us a 41 error when we
attempt to backup the database on it
: Looking forward to the retort. ;)
From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:53 PM
To: Martin, Jonathan; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Manual Backup - can't see restore -
OFF TOPIC
We upgraded from 6.0 MP4 to 6.5 earlier this week.
This morning I'm attempting to view a policy from the Java GUI. This
is timing out and telling me that it can't connect to the master server
and says to check to be sure necessary daemons are running. It doesn't
say WHICH daemon
At a prior job I used Emulex on Solaris without any major issues (other
than being new to them).
Here we use Qlogic on the Linux servers that have fibre. In doing an
offsite test replicating one of my environments (RHEL3) last year they
provided me with Emulex cards but I wasn't able to get
Uh oh - you've dared to say something negative about Aptare - that
simply is NOT done in this forum. :-)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tharp,
Trey
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:49 PM
To: Sponsler, Michael;
The only way I could see to do this would be to use an external
scheduling tool like Tivoli Workload Scheduler (Maestro).
I don't see how this would maximize the tape useage however. It seems
it would be a bit inefficient overall as you'd be arbitrarily preventing
a job from kicking off when it
.
From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:43 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: Tharp, Trey; Sponsler, Michael; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpdbm acting wacky -- NB 6.0 MP5
On 4/29/08, Jeff Lightner [EMAIL PROTECTED
Actually - EMC just gave a presentation here of their BURA
(BackUP/Recovery/Archive) stuff. I gather the deduplication device they
sell will allow you to backup to tape if you want but not with NBU
unfortunately. To use NBU you'd still have to do standard
duplication/vaulting.
We're doing
If you're more comfortable with UNIX style OSes why not use the hardware
to create a Linux master instead of a Windoze master?
I gather there are several on the list using Linux for master servers.
(We use HP-UX for our master.)
I'm not sure the hardware below would be sufficient for a master
Multiplexing is great for backup speeds but not so great for restore speeds as
we found out at our first DR test years ago.
A proper backup strategy needs to include backup AND recovery time. It
doesn't do you any good to backup everything in 10 minutes if it takes you 10
months to
By default your restores are logged in
installpath/netbackup/logs/user_ops/root/logs
However, it only holds these logs for the length of time you've
configured to hold all logs.
Presumably you could go back and do an alternate restore of files from
this directory for past periods if it were
.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:13 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: Curtis Preston; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore reports
You mentioned you where using NBU 6.0 MP4. Did you also setup a NOM
On our 6.0 MP4 master we have the following under
/usr/openv/netbackup/client:
./HP9000-800/HP-UX11.11/install_client.ssh
./Linux/RedHat2.4/install_client.ssh
./INTEL/FreeBSD/install_client.ssh
./INTEL/FreeBSD4.5/install_client.ssh
./INTEL/FreeBSD5.3/install_client.ssh
Don't see one for
Just to clarify on what Curtis wrote. Vault costs extra but is a
Symantec/Veritas product intended to be used with NBU.
As he noted you can do it yourself with a script using the bpduplicate
command if you don't want to pay for Vault to automate things.
For our large Production DB we do an
and doing the install from that rather than pushing from the
master.
From: Amado Gramajo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:53 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] install
Actually we have some quite large (2TB+) Oracle Test/Trng databases
using ATA drives in a Clariion CX700 arrays and get decent performance
out of those. Of course that is hardware RAID. Not sure what the SUN
Thumper uses.
The database on NBU is relatively small by comparison though at the
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:01 AM
To: A Darren Dunham; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Mailing list replies before questions?
Just to be clear.
I wasn't talking about
Sybase may have improved over the years but about 8 years ago I worked
for a Fortune 500 that had been a Sybase shop. We dumped Sybase for
many reasons including the fact that it didn't scale very well. I doubt
scalability at the level I'm speaking of is going to be an issue for NBU
EMM but I
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:05 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: Michaels, Keith R; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Measuring redundant backup data
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Jeff Lightner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I don't know a way to measure
the unnecessary
copies that were created as a result of multiple backups of the same
data.
From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 7:05 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: Michaels, Keith R; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re
now judged it as monopolistic twice.
By the way - I'm pretty sure it was us old farts that were joking about
old farts.
From: Clem Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:58 AM
To: Haskins, Steve; Ed Wilts; Jeff Lightner
Cc: [EMAIL
I'd like to have instant message at the moment I had a problem but would
hate it the rest of the time.
Using a mailing list to me is a good between instant messaging and
forums. That is with forums you have to login where with email you can
set a rule to get things to a different folder. If
Just to be clear.
I wasn't talking about messages I'd sent and wanted replies on but
rather messages others had sent. Often I see replies to the emails
others have sent long before I see the original message.
Interestingly enough the message that started this thread did not fall
into that
Is it my imagination or is this problem getting worse?
In the past on occasion I would receive the email reply to a question
before receiving the email to the question.
Now it seems to have become the norm for this list. Is there a reason
why this is occurring?
This term is not politically correct.
We now prefer to be called Chronologically Mature Methane Producers or ChMMPs
(NOT to be pronounced as Chimps so as not offend the Evolutinarilly Challenged…)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
I don't know a way to measure how much is redundant easily. Maybe the
much vaunted Aptare would have that - I'll wait for their fan club to
comment on that. :-)
However, the fact that deduplication devices (block level) seem to be
providing reported compressions from 40 to 1 to 80 to 1 on this
then it should work this time (assuming he
doesn't again change something in mid-stream).
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:23 AM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Question
I'll have to disagree with Curtis for once. I'm on the side of
commercial schedulers though I wouldn't say NBU (or backups in general)
is the main or even a good reason to buy one. The main reason to buy
one is that there are typically many things you want to do in automated
fashion and across
Early on here we got 6 errors for RMAN jobs but were NOT using a
scheduling tool.
In almost every case the issue with RMAN seems to be a misunderstanding
by the DBAs how to use RMAN. Sometimes it is obvious (e.g. they don't
use right policy name, schedule or host name) and you'll see it in
Your pattern shouldn't have matched the old path or the new path
/vmfs/volumes/ on both and explicit in your selection so matches the
literal.
QAVOL4/DCTZIQPVIEW02/ (old) and QAVOL3/DCTZIQPVIEW02/ (new) would match
your [a-zA-Z]*/
The DCTZIQPVIEW02.vmx at end would be matched by the *
My apologies.
It has been pointed out that I missed the first / after QAVOL3 or
QAVOL4. Your selection was correct.
Apparently I need new glasses - looked at it multiple times before
sending.
From: Jeff Lightner
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:50
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