Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-04-02 Thread bob944
of the devil. Real Men will use frequency-based. Real Men with purchasing authority will buy an external, industrial-strength, general-purpose scheduler for their enterprise. [...] IMHO, external, industrial strength, general purpose scheduler[s] are designed for general purpose use

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-04-02 Thread Jeff Lightner
: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule of the devil. Real Men will use frequency-based. Real Men with purchasing authority will buy an external, industrial-strength, general-purpose scheduler for their enterprise. [...] IMHO, external, industrial strength, general purpose

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-04-02 Thread ckstehman
] Curtis Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/2008 10:35 PM To [EMAIL PROTECTED], veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule [...] Schedule-based backups (SBB) would give Randy more than [...] uses

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-04-02 Thread Jeff Lightner
-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Curtis Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/2008 10:35 PM To [EMAIL PROTECTED], veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule [...] Schedule-based

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-04-01 Thread bob944
[...] Schedule-based backups (SBB) would give Randy more than [...] uses Frequency Based Backups (FBB), the first thing is he Is there some reason to introduce a new, content-free term and acronym here? _All_ NetBackup-scheduled backups are schedule-based. They can be frequency-based or

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-04-01 Thread Curtis Preston
[...] Schedule-based backups (SBB) would give Randy more than [...] uses Frequency Based Backups (FBB), the first thing is he Is there some reason to introduce a new, content-free term and acronym here? Wow, I was brain-farting while typing late at night. I meant CBB, not SBB. I just

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-04-01 Thread Dominik Pietrzykowski
Preston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2008 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule [...] Schedule-based backups (SBB) would give Randy more than [...] uses Frequency Based Backups (FBB

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-31 Thread Patrick
] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston Sent: 31 March 2008 22:49 To: Ed Wilts; Wayne T Smith Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule Ed, I'm going to agree and disagree with you here. The fact that we're saying that the jobs should run on the last

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-31 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 05:48:58PM -0400, Curtis Preston wrote: A 7 year old backup is a 7 year old backup. It's not an archive, and 7 years from now when you're trying to use that 7 year old backup as an archive and trying to retrieve something from it (you retrieve from archives. You

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-31 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Curtis Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, I'm going to agree and disagree with you here. Fair enough, so long as you'll let me point out an incorrect claim in your argument too :-) If he uses Frequency Based Backups (FBB), the first thing is he can't set

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-31 Thread Curtis Preston
Actually, you're wrong here.  NetBackup allows you to create a policy now but not set it to go active until some point in the future.  I've used this and it works well. I'm familiar with that and do it all the time, but I don't like it here. First, what if I want to do this to an existing

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-30 Thread Wayne T Smith
I disagree (never good to disagree with Ed ... he's always right ... here goes anyway)... IMHO, Calendar schedules are superior to Frequency based schedules in this case. First, NetBackup can do last Friday of the month, but not quarter. If you use NetBackup scheduling, you need to decide

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-30 Thread Ed Wilts
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Wayne T Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree (never good to disagree with Ed ... he's always right ... here goes anyway)... Now you've done it :-) IMHO, Calendar schedules are superior to Frequency based schedules in this case. First, NetBackup can

[Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-28 Thread Randy Samora
Does anyone know of an easier way to configure a Quarterly backup schedule to run on the last Friday of the Quarter other than going in and manually selecting those 4 dates in the year for each policy? I can do last Friday of the month but not last Friday of the Quarter. Just wondering if there

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-28 Thread Randy Samora
PROTECTED] 03/28/2008 10:00 AM To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule Does anyone know of an easier way to configure a Quarterly backup schedule to run on the last Friday of the Quarter other

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-28 Thread Jared . Seaton
PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/28/2008 10:28 AM To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule Well, it sounded good. You can?t use ?last Friday? (calendar based) with Frequency. You can have Calendar based

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule [NC]

2008-03-28 Thread misha . pavlov
Friday of the month Or I am missing smthng ? -- Misha Pavlov This message uses only 100% recycled electrons. Randy Samora [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/28/2008 10:00 AM To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-28 Thread Jeff Lightner
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule I'd think that last Friday of the month with an 89 or so day frequency would do it...if that can be configured, that is. Ken Zufall Technical Analyst D660C The Goodyear Tire Rubber Company GTN 446.0592 or 330.796.0592 Randy

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-28 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Samora Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:00 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule Does anyone know of an easier way to configure a Quarterly backup schedule

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule [NC]

2008-03-28 Thread Randy Samora
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule [NC] Define the easier way, please. Scripting ? What's the stubmling block - figuring out last friday of the quarter ? - wouldn't that be last Friday of the last month of the quarter, which is actually known

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-28 Thread Ed Wilts
Frankly, I would rethink your requirements - it's likely going to cause you problems in the future. What are your recovery options if the backup fails? If the backup only runs on the last Friday of the quarter, is it okay to skip this quarter completely and reschedule the job for the next

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-28 Thread Martin, Jonathan
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:44 AM To: Randy Samora; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule Rather than relying on NetBackup's schedule you

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-28 Thread Randy Samora
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:44 AM To: Randy Samora; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule Rather than

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule [NC]

2008-03-28 Thread Rosenkoetter, Gabriel
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule [NC]

2008-03-28 Thread Bryan Bahnmiller
, March 28, 2008 10:44 AM To: Randy Samora Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule [NC] Define the easier way, please. Scripting ? What's the stubmling block - figuring out last friday of the quarter