Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-22 Thread Haskins, Steve
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dbergen Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:10 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups Thanks for all the feedback, see some more replies below. We disagree on what a true synthetic backup is and how

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-22 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:10:21PM -0800, dbergen wrote: If all you are looking for is another copy of the full backup you have, then just run bpduplicate -dp destination_pool_name -backupid backup_id Yes, I can do that easily enough but how do I automatically schedule such an

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-21 Thread Paul Keating
: February 20, 2008 4:04 PM To: Haskins, Steve; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups As to TOP's question, have you tried running a full, then a series of incrementals, THEN a syn full or cumulative incremental? That's what it's designed

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-21 Thread bob944
You need to run a differential Or a synthetic cumulative, a cumulative or any combination that makes sense, cumulatives obviating the need for any earlier cumulatives or differentials. It's all in the Veritas NetBackup System Administrator's Guide | Policies | More about synthetic backups.

[Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-21 Thread dbergen
Thanks for all the feedback, see some more replies below. We disagree on what a true synthetic backup is and how it is implemented. No, we don't disagree at all, I wasn't stating opinion, I was just saying how Netbackup handles a synthetic. If all you are looking for is another copy of

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-20 Thread Jared . Seaton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/19/2008 09:52 PM Please respond to VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups When I attempt a synthetic backup and the most recent backup of the client

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-20 Thread Martin, Jonathan
@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups When I attempt a synthetic backup and the most recent backup of the client is a full backup nothing happens. Nothing happens because Netbackup says there was no incremental backup to analyze. My question is: So What? I want

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-20 Thread Jon Bousselot
Of dbergen Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:20 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups When I attempt a synthetic backup and the most recent backup of the client is a full backup nothing happens. Nothing happens because Netbackup says

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-20 Thread Jon Bousselot
@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups The synthetic full keeps track of moved and deleted files that occur between incrementals. When the incrementals are assembled, the changes are reflected in the new synthetic full. I just tested this to see

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-20 Thread Curtis Preston
: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups CBergen, You're not the only one that would like some enlightenment...I mean, on synthetics backups. I don't understand why incrementals have to be continuously run at all. As I understand it, that is the point of synthetic backups as to have

[Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-19 Thread dbergen
When I attempt a synthetic backup and the most recent backup of the client is a full backup nothing happens. Nothing happens because Netbackup says there was no incremental backup to analyze. My question is: So What? I want another full backup, to a completely different volume pool, shouldn't

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-19 Thread Haskins, Steve
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dbergen Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:20 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups When I attempt a synthetic backup and the most recent backup of the client is a full backup nothing happens. Nothing

[Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-19 Thread dbergen
I might be able to enlighten you some. I'm not sure the differences between synthetics in 5.1 and 6.5 as I am only using them in 6.5. You're close but not quite on the mark about synthetics. The point of the synthetic is to reduce server down time, shorten the backup window and reduce network

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups

2008-02-19 Thread Haskins, Steve
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dbergen Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:27 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question about synthetic backups I might be able to enlighten you some. I'm not sure the differences