Re: [Veritas-bu] Mac OS-X client install - how?

2007-03-08 Thread Dave Brown
Use the CD - All Unix Clients in the MAC itself and run
Vrts_pack.install

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Netbackup 5.1 MP4 with the server running under Windows.

I need to install a client on an Intel based Macintosh running OS 10.4
Support have said that I need to install a unix server (Solaris in my 
case) and push the client to the Mac. I don't have a Solaris server 
licence and the Windows licence (unsurprisingly) doesn't work. I am 
also told that there is only one Mac client which is used for all 
versions of the Macintosh. I have been referred to my sales rep for a 
unix licence key, but it seems a bit extreme to have to use a server 
just to distribute client software.

I find all of this hard to believe. Can anyone confirm this, or give 
me some ideas of a better way of doing things.

thanks
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Mac OS-X client install - how?

2007-03-08 Thread ida3248b
Hi Chris

Normally you don't need to push the client, it can usually be installed 
directly from a CD or from a file-image, at least this have been possible on 
all the unix/linux machines I have worked with.

The license is another issue, but you should just need a unix client license 
and not a server license 

Regards
Michael

On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:38:59 +, Chris Freemantle wrote
 Netbackup 5.1 MP4 with the server running under Windows.
 
 I need to install a client on an Intel based Macintosh running OS 
 10.4 Support have said that I need to install a unix server (Solaris 
 in my case) and push the client to the Mac. I don't have a Solaris 
 server licence and the Windows licence (unsurprisingly) doesn't 
 work. I am also told that there is only one Mac client which is used 
 for all versions of the Macintosh. I have been referred to my sales 
 rep for a unix licence key, but it seems a bit extreme to have to 
 use a server just to distribute client software.
 
 I find all of this hard to believe. Can anyone confirm this, or give 
 me some ideas of a better way of doing things.
 
 thanks
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 *will* fail !
 This includes backup and archiving systems.
 If you want to be paranoid, make your own backups as well.
 
 For FIL computer support issues, please email
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 rather than individual team members
 
 Chris Freemantle
 Data Manager
 Wellcome Trust Centre for Neuroimaging
 
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 Tel. +44 (0)20 7833 7496 direct
 Fax  +44 (0)20 7813 1420
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Virus Scanning and NBU

2007-03-08 Thread Trotman, Kevin [CCC-OT_IT]

This is rediculous. Re-read the knowledgebase article. It specifically says:

The C2 crash has been found to be caused by Veritas BackupExec or NetBackup 
VSP.SYS version 1.2 or earlier

VSP.SYS is the same anyway, no matter which product its in. And trust me, I'm 
very well aware that this issue does apply since we could reproduce it at will. 

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But Kevin, the technote refers to VSP for Backup Exec !!

Also, look at the date of the Technote 

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/264490.htm

Regards

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In spite of your success, there is a knowledgebase article. ;)

https://knowledge.mcafee.com/SupportSite/search.do?cmd=displayKCdocType=kc;
externalId=KB40024sliceId=SAL_PublicdialogID=1057330stateId=0%200%2010559
15

The article deals with a bluescreen issue prevalent in v.8.0i/8.5i with
VSP.sys versions through 1.2.0. Version 1.3 of vsp.sys was first shipped in
Netbackup 5.1MP4.

And, of course, you don't *have* to exclude anything from scan. Like
everything else in the IT world, the original question was just a matter of
managing risk factors.

Kevin


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We run 8.5 and we don't exclude any of the files! During the backup window
however, the services are turned off the Windows boxes!

I have never seen a problem with 8,5 and NBU 5.1 MP2 and MP5 yet

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You don't mention the NB version, but 8.5 has some issues with client
versions below 5.1MP4, so be aware. For windows platform, you should exclude
bpinetd.exe. Just to be safe, I would also avoid tar32.exe, tracker.exe,
vopied.exe, and vnetd.exe on client platforms. bprd.exe, bpjobd.exe,
bptm.exe, oprd.exe, rdevmi.exe, avrd.exe, acsd.exe, and tl*.exe for server
platforms. Depending on your robot type, any of then can be open at any
given time.
 
Been to LW for a summer program. Very nice. Many, many, many...years ago. ;)

Kevin

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We are preparing to push McAfee 8.5 to our servers and in conjunction with
that, I'm compiling a list of NBU processes that McAfee should avoid
scanning.  What I have so far is as follows:

bpcd.exe
bpbkar32.exe
bpbrm.exe
bmrdb.exe
bpdbm.exe

Others that I've missed?

Thanks,
Jason Brooks


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade/Migrate master server from 5.0/Linux to6.0/Solaris

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Keating
Catalog format from linux to solaris is compatible, but from 5.x to 6.x
is not.

Migrate from linux to Solaris maintaining V5.x, then upgrade to 6.x

Paul

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 Some said that the catalog format was compatible between 5.x and 6.0, 
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[Veritas-bu] Backing up ZFS snapshots

2007-03-08 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hello.

On one of the servers which are backed up with NBU 6.0 MP4,
we're using Solaris 10 and also ZFS. To keep the backup window
as short as possible, I'm creating ZFS snapshots just before
the backup policy gets run. I do that manually with a script,
eg. like this: zfs snapshot pool/[EMAIL PROTECTED]. This
creates a snapshot, which is accessible over 
/pool/Teamcenter/.zfs/snapshot/backup.
The .zfs directory is completely invisible:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ sudo zfs snapshot pool/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ ls -la /pool/Teamcenter/
total 116
drwxr-xr-x  22 root root  22 Feb 27 14:33 .
drwxr-xr-x   5 root sys5 Mar  8 17:15 ..
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  12 Nov 14 15:51 TT_DB
drwxrwxr-x  21 dev1 pdmusers  62 Jan 11 20:11 dev1
[...]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ ls -la /pool/Teamcenter/.zfs
total 3
dr-xr-xr-x   3 root root   3 Jan 12 18:50 .
drwxr-xr-x  22 root root  22 Feb 27 14:33 ..
dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root   2 Jan 12 18:50 snapshot

How do you guys actually backup ZFS snapshots? I don't really
want to go the route of having to add /pool/Teamcenter/.zfs/snapshot/backup
to the Backup Selections of a policy, as this would mean, that
the Backup Selections would have to be updated, when a new
zfs is created. I don't like this.

How do you do that?

Alexander Skwar

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ZFS snapshots

2007-03-08 Thread Karl . Rossing
Have you tried a symlink into the snapshot dir?

Karl

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/08/2007 10:27:42 AM:

 Hello.
 
 On one of the servers which are backed up with NBU 6.0 MP4,
 we're using Solaris 10 and also ZFS. To keep the backup window
 as short as possible, I'm creating ZFS snapshots just before
 the backup policy gets run. I do that manually with a script,
 eg. like this: zfs snapshot pool/[EMAIL PROTECTED]. This
 creates a snapshot, which is accessible over /pool/Teamcenter/.
 zfs/snapshot/backup.
 The .zfs directory is completely invisible:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ sudo zfs snapshot pool/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ ls -la /pool/Teamcenter/
 total 116
 drwxr-xr-x  22 root root  22 Feb 27 14:33 .
 drwxr-xr-x   5 root sys5 Mar  8 17:15 ..
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  12 Nov 14 15:51 TT_DB
 drwxrwxr-x  21 dev1 pdmusers  62 Jan 11 20:11 dev1
 [...]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ ls -la /pool/Teamcenter/.zfs
 total 3
 dr-xr-xr-x   3 root root   3 Jan 12 18:50 .
 drwxr-xr-x  22 root root  22 Feb 27 14:33 ..
 dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root   2 Jan 12 18:50 snapshot
 
 How do you guys actually backup ZFS snapshots? I don't really
 want to go the route of having to add 
/pool/Teamcenter/.zfs/snapshot/backup
 to the Backup Selections of a policy, as this would mean, that
 the Backup Selections would have to be updated, when a new
 zfs is created. I don't like this.
 
 How do you do that?
 
 Alexander Skwar
 
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[Veritas-bu] Log User Activities in NBU GUI?

2007-03-08 Thread Ellis, Jason
Is there a way to log user activities in the NBU Windows Admin GUI? Can
you also log commands that are run from the command line? Thanks!

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade/Migrate master server from 5.0/Linux to6.0/Solaris

2007-03-08 Thread Rongsheng Fang
Thank you Paul! That's good news. Do you know if the databases (like the 
ones under /usr/openv/netbackup/db and /usr/openv/volmgr/database) are 
compatible between Linux and Solaris if they both run NBU 5.x?

Thanks,

Rongsheng

Paul Keating wrote:
 Catalog format from linux to solaris is compatible, but from 5.x to 6.x
 is not.
 
 Migrate from linux to Solaris maintaining V5.x, then upgrade to 6.x
 
 Paul
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ZFS snapshots

2007-03-08 Thread Johnson, Eric
You can control whether the .zfs directory for snapshots is visible or
not woth the zfs set snapdir=visible filesyste option. From the zfs
manpage:

 snapdir=hidden | visible

 Controls whether the .zfs directory is hidden or visi-
 ble  in  the root of the file system as discussed in the
 Snapshots section. The default value is hidden.

Eric

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From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ZFS snapshots

Hello.

On one of the servers which are backed up with NBU 6.0 MP4,
we're using Solaris 10 and also ZFS. To keep the backup window
as short as possible, I'm creating ZFS snapshots just before
the backup policy gets run. I do that manually with a script,
eg. like this: zfs snapshot pool/[EMAIL PROTECTED]. This
creates a snapshot, which is accessible over
/pool/Teamcenter/.zfs/snapshot/backup.
The .zfs directory is completely invisible:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ sudo zfs snapshot pool/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ ls -la /pool/Teamcenter/
total 116
drwxr-xr-x  22 root root  22 Feb 27 14:33 .
drwxr-xr-x   5 root sys5 Mar  8 17:15 ..
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  12 Nov 14 15:51 TT_DB
drwxrwxr-x  21 dev1 pdmusers  62 Jan 11 20:11 dev1
[...]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ ls -la /pool/Teamcenter/.zfs
total 3
dr-xr-xr-x   3 root root   3 Jan 12 18:50 .
drwxr-xr-x  22 root root  22 Feb 27 14:33 ..
dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root   2 Jan 12 18:50 snapshot

How do you guys actually backup ZFS snapshots? I don't really
want to go the route of having to add
/pool/Teamcenter/.zfs/snapshot/backup
to the Backup Selections of a policy, as this would mean, that
the Backup Selections would have to be updated, when a new
zfs is created. I don't like this.

How do you do that?

Alexander Skwar



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[Veritas-bu] 5.1 DST Job Scheduling Bug

2007-03-08 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
Did this just come out yesterday?  I could swear when I looked into this
last month this wasn't an issue?  The document says updated March 7th.

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/286772.htm

-J


Known scheduling issues for NetBackup 5.x and prior releases:
There is a known scheduling issue with daylight Savings Time with
NetBackup 5.x and prior releases.  This scheduling issue has been
confirmed for the NetBackup 4.5 release.  No official testing has been
done for any prior releases.  This occurs only with the spring forward
transition from DST.  

To be affected by this issue, all of the following conditions must apply
to a backup policy:


The NetBackup master server must be running a version previous to
NetBackup 6.0 
*AND* the policy must be configured with a schedule that is
frequency-based 
*AND* the schedule must be configured with a frequency value that is an
exact multiple of 24 hours 
*AND* the schedule must be configured with a backup window that must
start between 00:00 and 01:00 on the spring forward day 
*AND* the schedule must become due to run within its window at some time
after 01:59 on the spring forward day

If all of the above conditions are met, then this policy/schedule
combination will erroneously be considered not due for the duration of
the backup window.  The next time this backup window opens, this
policy/schedule combination will run.  

This issue is scheduled to be fixed in the NetBackup 5.0 Maintenance
Pack 8 (MP8) and the NetBackup 5.1 Maintenance Pack 7 (MP7) releases.
These fixes were originally scheduled for the NetBackup 5.0 MP7 and the
NetBackup 5.1 MP6 releases.  However issues found while testing
prevented them from being released as scheduled.  A workaround for the
scheduling issue is listed below and can be used until these fixes are
available.  

To download these NetBackup 5.x releases, once they become available,
visit the Support Web site at:
 http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/support/downloads.jsp?pid=15143 

Symantec Corporation has acknowledged that the above-mentioned issue is
present in the NetBackup 4.5 release. Symantec Corporation is committed
to product quality and satisfied customers.  The NetBackup 4.5 release
has reached End Of Life (EOL).  There are currently no plans to address
this issue by way of a patch or hotfix in the NetBackup 4.5 release at
the present time.  The workaround listed below can be used until the
NetBackup environment can be upgraded to a supported release.

To work around the known scheduling issue perform the following steps:
1. Identify any backup schedules with a backup window that begins
between 00:00 and 01:00 on a Sunday. This can be done by running the
bppllist -allpolicies -U command from the master server and redirecting
the output to a file. The resulting file can be scanned for any policies
that contain an entry for Sunday under the Daily Windows: section of the
policy. 
2. Write down the names of any policies and schedules that are affected
by this issue.
3. Change the backup window to open at 01:10 or later. This should
prevent any scheduling issues from appearing on the spring forward day
of daylight savings time.
4. On March 12th, the backup window can be changed back.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ZFS snapshots

2007-03-08 Thread Alexander Skwar
Mike L. Varney schrieb:
 
 NetBackup would happily backup the symlink as if it were an individual 
 file.  It would not follow the link.

Exactly.

 What if you started the backup as a User Backup from the client at the 
 end of your script which created the snapshot?

Hm, interesting idea. What should the client then specify to backup?
I mean, which directory?

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ZFS snapshots

2007-03-08 Thread Alexander Skwar
Johnson, Eric schrieb:
 You can control whether the .zfs directory for snapshots is visible or
 not woth the zfs set snapdir=visible filesyste option. 

I know - but how does that solve the problem? If .zfs were
visible, wouldn't this make even more problems? Suppose
I'd backup /pool, this would cause the original /pool/Teamcenter
and also the snapshot underneath /pool/Teamcenter/.zfs/snapshot/backup
to be stored on tape. That's absolutely not what I want -
I do not want to store the (more or less) same content
twice - I don't work at Imation, or any other tape vendor,
you know ;)

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ZFS snapshots

2007-03-08 Thread Mike L. Varney
I would think you could specify the hidden directory on the command line 
to back up the snapshot directory.  It wouldnt be the matter of the backup 
client not getting access to the directory; the hidden directory just 
doesn't show up when the client is iterating thru the filesystem.

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Mike L. Varney schrieb:
 
 NetBackup would happily backup the symlink as if it were an individual 
 file.  It would not follow the link.

Exactly.

 What if you started the backup as a User Backup from the client at the 
 end of your script which created the snapshot?

Hm, interesting idea. What should the client then specify to backup?
I mean, which directory?

Alexander Skwar
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installing delayed bugs, whereas with this feature, you're installing an
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ZFS snapshots

2007-03-08 Thread Darren Dunham
  What if you started the backup as a User Backup from the client at the 
  end of your script which created the snapshot?
 
 Hm, interesting idea. What should the client then specify to backup?
 I mean, which directory?

Since the client knows the snapshot involved, it could give the correct
name to the process (/fs/.zfs/snapshot/name).

Also, you can rename snapshots.  A script could make sure that the most
recent snaphot is always called 'current' or something.  You place that
name on the backup list of the profile.  Then when it's time to rotate,
the script could rename 'current' to a timestamp and create a new
'current'.

Or maybe rotate like netapp 'daily.0' - 'daily.1' etc...

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[Veritas-bu] Bprecover

2007-03-08 Thread Fernandes, Eustace

Target master server name is the same as the restore server name 
Solaris 9

This is what I get using the GUI to recover from a HOT backup 
Images seem to have recovered successfully and then 
Starts to restore the database and I get ...

6:09:59 (36.001) INF - Beginning restore from server calmp1 to client
calmp1.
16:10:00 (36.001) /mp1_data/staging/EMM_DATA.db
16:10:02 (36.001) /mp1_data/staging/EMM_INDEX.db
16:10:04 (36.001) /mp1_data/staging/NBDB.db
16:10:04 (36.001) /mp1_data/staging/NBDB.log.1
16:10:04 (36.001) /mp1_data/staging/databases.conf
16:10:04 (36.001) /mp1_data/staging/server.conf
16:10:04 (36.001) /mp1_data/staging/vxdbms.conf
16:10:04 (36.001) INF - TAR EXITING WITH STATUS = 0
16:10:04 (36.001) INF - TAR RESTORED 7 OF 7 FILES SUCCESSFULLY
16:10:04 (36.001) INF - TAR KEPT 0 EXISTING FILES
16:10:04 (36.001) INF - TAR PARTIALLY RESTORED 0 FILES

16:10:05 (36.001) Status of restore from image created Thu Mar 08
09:59:35 2007 = the requested operation was successfully completed

16:10:07 INF - Server status = 0
16:10:09 (36.xxx) INF - Status = the requested operation was
successfully completed.

16:10:11 INF - Database recovery started
16:10:11 INF - Recovery not successfully completed
16:10:11 ERR - Failed to recover NBDB on calmp1 (13)
16:10:16 INF - attempting to freeze media used in recovery
Any ideas .how to fix seems like it has restored the 
 Eustace Fernandes
Technical Support
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ZFS snapshots

2007-03-08 Thread Ed Wilts
On 3/8/2007 10:27 AM, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Hello.
 
 On one of the servers which are backed up with NBU 6.0 MP4,
 we're using Solaris 10 and also ZFS. To keep the backup window
 as short as possible, I'm creating ZFS snapshots just before
 the backup policy gets run. I do that manually with a script,
 eg. like this: zfs snapshot pool/[EMAIL PROTECTED]. This
 creates a snapshot, which is accessible over 
 /pool/Teamcenter/.zfs/snapshot/backup.
 The .zfs directory is completely invisible:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ sudo zfs snapshot pool/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ ls -la /pool/Teamcenter/
 total 116
 drwxr-xr-x  22 root root  22 Feb 27 14:33 .
 drwxr-xr-x   5 root sys5 Mar  8 17:15 ..
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  12 Nov 14 15:51 TT_DB
 drwxrwxr-x  21 dev1 pdmusers  62 Jan 11 20:11 dev1
 [...]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt $ ls -la /pool/Teamcenter/.zfs
 total 3
 dr-xr-xr-x   3 root root   3 Jan 12 18:50 .
 drwxr-xr-x  22 root root  22 Feb 27 14:33 ..
 dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root   2 Jan 12 18:50 snapshot
 
 How do you guys actually backup ZFS snapshots? I don't really
 want to go the route of having to add /pool/Teamcenter/.zfs/snapshot/backup
 to the Backup Selections of a policy, as this would mean, that
 the Backup Selections would have to be updated, when a new
 zfs is created. I don't like this.

I haven't used zfs, but what happens if the policy specifies 
/pool/*/.zfs ?  Enable cross mount-points and does the right thing 
happen?  Try a bpdir from the master using that directory spec and see 
if your files are listed.

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 DST Job Scheduling Bug

2007-03-08 Thread rob worman
Just as an FYI...

It's my understanding that this scheduling problem is NOT a result of 
the DST changes that start this year.   This risk of a missed backup job 
existed last spring, and the spring before that, and the spring before 
that... 

So it's nice that it's finally going to be fixed.  (even if it's not in 
time for this sunday night...)

HTH
rob

On Mar 8, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Martin, Jonathan ((Contractor)) wrote:

Did this just come out yesterday?  I could swear when I looked into this
last month this wasn't an issue?  The document says updated March 7th.

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/286772.htm

-J


Known scheduling issues for NetBackup 5.x and prior releases:
There is a known scheduling issue with daylight Savings Time with
NetBackup 5.x and prior releases.  This scheduling issue has been
confirmed for the NetBackup 4.5 release.  No official testing has been
done for any prior releases.  This occurs only with the spring forward
transition from DST.

To be affected by this issue, all of the following conditions must apply
to a backup policy:


The NetBackup master server must be running a version previous to
NetBackup 6.0
*AND* the policy must be configured with a schedule that is
frequency-based
*AND* the schedule must be configured with a frequency value that is an
exact multiple of 24 hours
*AND* the schedule must be configured with a backup window that must
start between 00:00 and 01:00 on the spring forward day
*AND* the schedule must become due to run within its window at some time
after 01:59 on the spring forward day

If all of the above conditions are met, then this policy/schedule
combination will erroneously be considered not due for the duration of
the backup window.  The next time this backup window opens, this
policy/schedule combination will run.

This issue is scheduled to be fixed in the NetBackup 5.0 Maintenance
Pack 8 (MP8) and the NetBackup 5.1 Maintenance Pack 7 (MP7) releases.
These fixes were originally scheduled for the NetBackup 5.0 MP7 and the
NetBackup 5.1 MP6 releases.  However issues found while testing
prevented them from being released as scheduled.  A workaround for the
scheduling issue is listed below and can be used until these fixes are
available.

To download these NetBackup 5.x releases, once they become available,
visit the Support Web site at:
 http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/support/downloads.jsp?pid=15143

Symantec Corporation has acknowledged that the above-mentioned issue is
present in the NetBackup 4.5 release. Symantec Corporation is committed
to product quality and satisfied customers.  The NetBackup 4.5 release
has reached End Of Life (EOL).  There are currently no plans to address
this issue by way of a patch or hotfix in the NetBackup 4.5 release at
the present time.  The workaround listed below can be used until the
NetBackup environment can be upgraded to a supported release.

To work around the known scheduling issue perform the following steps:
1. Identify any backup schedules with a backup window that begins
between 00:00 and 01:00 on a Sunday. This can be done by running the
bppllist -allpolicies -U command from the master server and redirecting
the output to a file. The resulting file can be scanned for any policies
that contain an entry for Sunday under the Daily Windows: section of the
policy.
2. Write down the names of any policies and schedules that are affected
by this issue.
3. Change the backup window to open at 01:10 or later. This should
prevent any scheduling issues from appearing on the spring forward day
of daylight savings time.
4. On March 12th, the backup window can be changed back.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Virus Scanning and NBU

2007-03-08 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Well its not re-produced here :-)

And that's good for us ... Bad for you :-)

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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-Original Message-
From: Trotman, Kevin [CCC-OT_IT] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 March 2007 15:57
To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Virus Scanning and NBU



This is rediculous. Re-read the knowledgebase article. It specifically says:

The C2 crash has been found to be caused by Veritas BackupExec or NetBackup
VSP.SYS version 1.2 or earlier

VSP.SYS is the same anyway, no matter which product its in. And trust me,
I'm very well aware that this issue does apply since we could reproduce it
at will. 

-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:06 AM
To: Trotman, Kevin [CCC-OT_IT]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Virus Scanning and NBU



But Kevin, the technote refers to VSP for Backup Exec !!

Also, look at the date of the Technote 

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/264490.htm

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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-Original Message-
From: Trotman, Kevin [CCC-OT_IT] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 March 2007 16:14
To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Virus Scanning and NBU



In spite of your success, there is a knowledgebase article. ;)

https://knowledge.mcafee.com/SupportSite/search.do?cmd=displayKCdocType=kc;
externalId=KB40024sliceId=SAL_PublicdialogID=1057330stateId=0%200%2010559
15

The article deals with a bluescreen issue prevalent in v.8.0i/8.5i with
VSP.sys versions through 1.2.0. Version 1.3 of vsp.sys was first shipped in
Netbackup 5.1MP4.

And, of course, you don't *have* to exclude anything from scan. Like
everything else in the IT world, the original question was just a matter of
managing risk factors.

Kevin


-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:48 AM
To: Trotman, Kevin [CCC-OT_IT]; Brooks, Jason;
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Virus Scanning and NBU



We run 8.5 and we don't exclude any of the files! During the backup window
however, the services are turned off the Windows boxes!

I have never seen a problem with 8,5 and NBU 5.1 MP2 and MP5 yet

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Trotman, Kevin [CCC-OT_IT] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 March 2007 22:13
To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Virus Scanning and NBU



You don't mention the NB version, but 8.5 has some issues with client
versions below 5.1MP4, so be aware. For windows platform, you should exclude
bpinetd.exe. Just to be safe, I would also avoid tar32.exe, tracker.exe,
vopied.exe, and vnetd.exe on client platforms. bprd.exe, bpjobd.exe,
bptm.exe, oprd.exe, rdevmi.exe, avrd.exe, acsd.exe, and tl*.exe for server
platforms. Depending on your robot type, any of then can be open at any
given time.
 
Been to LW for a summer program. Very nice. Many, many, many...years ago. ;)

Kevin

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brooks, Jason
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:00 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Virus Scanning and NBU


We are preparing to push McAfee 8.5 to our servers and in conjunction with
that, I'm compiling a list of NBU processes that McAfee should avoid
scanning.  What I have so far is as follows:

bpcd.exe
bpbkar32.exe
bpbrm.exe
bmrdb.exe
bpdbm.exe

Others that I've missed?

Thanks,
Jason Brooks


Jason Brooks
Computer Systems Engineer
IITS - Longwood University
voice - (434) 395-2034
fax - (434) 395-2035
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[Veritas-bu] Alternative Media Manager restore

2007-03-08 Thread Julio Duarte de Assis Dezan
Hi all,
 
I have here in my backup infra one master server and 6 media managers.
 
If I have a situation when I backed up a server in a robot that is attached to 
one media manager and I need to restore some files but all the tapes in this 
robot are busy. What is the steps that I need to follow to put the required 
tape or tapes in another robot, of the same infra, and inform Netbackup to use 
it for this restore?
 
Thanks,
 
Julio
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ZFS snapshots

2007-03-08 Thread Alexander Skwar
Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 What if you started the backup as a User Backup from the client at the 
 end of your script which created the snapshot?
 
 Hm, interesting idea. What should the client then specify to backup?
 I mean, which directory?
 
 Since the client knows the snapshot involved, it could give the correct
 name to the process (/fs/.zfs/snapshot/name).

Okay. But what would I have to add to the Backup Selections
properties of the Policy?

 Also, you can rename snapshots.  A script could make sure that the most
 recent snaphot is always called 'current' or something.

The snapshot currently is called backup. So, that's already a
static name.

  You place that
 name on the backup list of the profile.

Nah, that's exactly the route, that I do NOT want to go. To quote
my OP:

| I don't really
| want to go the route of having to add /pool/Teamcenter/.zfs/snapshot/backup
| to the Backup Selections of a policy, as this would mean, that
| the Backup Selections would have to be updated, when a new
| zfs is created. I don't like this.

Or did I misunderstand you?

Thanks,
Alexander Skwar

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