Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread Curtis Preston
If you have a policy naming convention (and you'd better for that many policies), configuring things like exclude lists is no more difficult with 70 than with 7. I'd actually argue that it's the other way around. I blogged about this a while back, and was surprised at the positive support

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread briandiven
For those of you that are seriously interested, here is the actual format taking advantage of policy and schedule names that made our life easier. I should also state that we stood up extremely well to 5 audits over the past 4 years (BCP/vaulting audit, internal audit regarding records

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread briandiven
We get around 6-8 restore requests/day. And yes, I take advantage of Inline Tape Copy and have a copy available across dark fiber at a separate campus and the other copy vaulted 90 miles away. If we have time, I rerun (or dupe) any status 84's we get. I'm using IBM for tape - 3590's and 3592's

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We get around 6-8 restore requests/day. And yes, I take advantage of Inline Tape Copy and have a copy available across dark fiber at a separate campus and the other copy vaulted 90 miles away. If we have time, I rerun (or dupe) any status 84's

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread briandiven
I have experience with StorageTek, but never used HP. For the IBM library, you turn off NBU cleaning mgmt and let the library handle it. I'm not sure of their current alogrhytm - it used to be the number of feet of tape that passed the heads or if the drive reports errors. When a cleaning tape

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread Clem Kruger (C)
We have 8 Clariion VTL's and have a retention period of a week for everything. We use In Line Tape copy for weekly and monthly backups for offside storage. We are looking to use SRDF to replicate these VTL's, but this may just take too long. Brian, what replication software are you using to

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread briandiven
We have fiber DWDM in place, so the drives appear as if they are locally attached fiber drives. I'm in the process of doing some BCP work which has different RPO/RTO than most things, so we are currently looking at options for replication. We are already replicating the mainframe environment,

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread Chuck Tipton
Having worked with Brian and crew a few years back, when it was just 3000 policies, I must say it worked great then. It was just as easy to manageas the 50 or so policies I inherited where I am working now, perhaps even easier because all the policies I have now were created with no plan in

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread Paul Keating
Takes a couple seconds with a little ad hoc command line scripting. At a previous job, we had 3000+ policies. One client per.Sometimes several policies per client. The scheduler realy didn't like it (this was in the 3.4 days), so we had a custom scripted scheduler that was called from cron.

[Veritas-bu] NetBackup Policy Design for large Oracle environments

2007-07-24 Thread Shekel, Tal
Hi All I was wondering what policy design some of you have followed for large Oracle environments I am busy doing a redesign of an Netbackup environment which backs up about 70 DB's spread across about 30 servers (some of which are cross sites) I am doing my best not to end up with a solution

[Veritas-bu] What is minmum version of NB to support LTO4 with encryption

2007-07-24 Thread bobbyrjw
Can 5.0 or 5.1 support LTO-4 in the LTO-4 mode to utilize encryption? It is not a choic in the definitions of tape drives, so how could it be supported? Anyone using LTO-4 with encryption yet? How would you transfer the encryption keys to NetBackup as a DR or altenate site? Bobby.

Re: [Veritas-bu] What is minmum version of NB to support LTO4 withencryption

2007-07-24 Thread Rajmund Siwik
I don't think LTO4 encryption is depended on Netbackup as encryption is happening at the drive, not at NBU. I have talked to local Symantec reps and they projected support for LTO4 drives from NBU within 6 months. In order to manage keys you need IBM EKM software which is in its infancy stages.

[Veritas-bu] NDMP backup and restore question

2007-07-24 Thread Mase, Vince
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backup and restore question

2007-07-24 Thread Justin Piszcz
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[Veritas-bu] Re: Upgrading to 6.x - EMM Server Question

2007-07-24 Thread John Hink
Pre 6.0 the device config for each media server and some media information was stored on the media server, post 6.0 this is all in one place, the EMM database. The database uses a real server engine and since it's handling requests from all other servers there's a bit higher load on the

[Veritas-bu] Re: Error bptm(pid=3956) SCSI RESERVE failed (reserve unit scsi

2007-07-24 Thread Cloonster
Hi Doug I would be interested to find out whether you had come to some resolution on this as we have a similar issue whereas our bptm logs indicate that it waits agaes to issue the SCSI reserve, the tape gets mounted however the RESERVE only happens sometimes up to 30 mins later. Any ideas ?

[Veritas-bu] Re: Upgrade from 4.5 to 6.1

2007-07-24 Thread John Hink
Basically, the answer is you have to go from 4.5-5.x-6.0. and there is no NetBackup 6.1. (there's Puredisk 6.1 but that's something different) There are consulting services available to help you out with this. +-- |This was

[Veritas-bu] Re: bpdbjobs -all_columns

2007-07-24 Thread rmg
Coincidentally, I wrote this just last week: #!/usr/bin/perl use Data#58;#58;Dumper; # Each line of bpdbjobs output has a fairly long, complicated format # described in the PDF#58; NetBackup Commands for UNIX and Linux. my $lineformat = nbsp; #91; nbsp; nbsp;'jobid', 'jobtype', 'state',

[Veritas-bu] Re: Upgrading to 6.x - EMM Server Question

2007-07-24 Thread John Hink
Pre 6.0 the device config for each media server and some media information was stored on the media server, post 6.0 this is all in one place, the EMM database. The database uses a real server engine and since it's handling requests from all other servers there's a bit higher load on the

[Veritas-bu] Lotus Domino Restores Using Trans Logging

2007-07-24 Thread marcymarc24
Hi, Does anyone out there have a standard procedure that is used for NetBackup restores of Lotus Domino Databases using the agent? I can't seem to apply the transaction logs correctly, I always get the error 'Invalid Notes Path'. I'm guessing there is something you need to do with the

Re: [Veritas-bu] retentions

2007-07-24 Thread Dyck, Jonathan
Just to chime in on the Aptare reports... They have an automated report (out of the box, but not really) you can cron/windows schedule to run that will give you the following details on full backups... (hope your screens large enough to make out the headings...). Great way to stop sys admins

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 MP4 on RHEL5 Client:Installation problem

2007-07-24 Thread ckstehman
It looks like a problem with the inetd deamon. Some Linux systems have xinetd.conf Not sure how you check. It is trying to add the netbackup deamons to your inetd configuration and can't find it. I would start there = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 MP4 on RHEL5 Client:Installation problem

2007-07-24 Thread Shekel, Tal
Until you have an [x]inetd process running the system wont be able to listen for bpcd connections You can start bpcd in standalone mode (bpcd -standalone) on the client for the time being -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rizalman_almasi

[Veritas-bu] client reinstalation problem

2007-07-24 Thread Daniel Sigrist
Hello all, I’m trying to reinstall an unix client on a solaris 9 box and netbackup 4.5_FP6. I followed the procedure described on VERITAS NetBackup™ 5.1 Installation Guide for UNIX (Uninstalling UNIX NetBackup Client Software). When I tried to reinstall the client, I received:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Error bptm(pid=3956) SCSI RESERVE failed (reserveunit scsi

2007-07-24 Thread Preston, Douglas L
Dave, I ended up doing the following steps 1 - Down the library and powering it off 2 - Removed all drives and robots from master server and all media servers. 3 - Stopped ALL NBU services on master and all media servers. 4 - On master server and all media servers I Deleted all files under the

[Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?

2007-07-24 Thread Jared . Seaton
You could completely disable the Volume Shadow Copy service on the Windows client if you don't want Shadow Copy Components:\ On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Justin Piszcz wrote: On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Justin Piszcz wrote: Hello, We set ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES for all of our Windows hosts and let the

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread Liddle, Stuart
Yeswe have a policy naming convention: SiteCode-BusinessUnit-ServiceTier-Dataset-Component For example, we might have a policy called: usto-core-std-exchange-app Which is a backup policy for the Exchange servers. It's a Standard tier backup, meaning it get's daily backups retained

Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?

2007-07-24 Thread Justin Piszcz
Will that fail backups or will it skip the Shadow Copy Components? On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could completely disable the Volume Shadow Copy service on the Windows client if you don't want Shadow Copy Components:\ On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Justin Piszcz wrote: On

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread Kohli, Vidit
In 5.0/5.1 MP5 there is a bug The major issue we saw with one policy for one client specially Windows FS that When a stream/drive backup fails for a Win client, it tend to pickup all the multi streams drives irrespective few were done successfully earlier Which tends to backup duplicate

Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?

2007-07-24 Thread Jared . Seaton
There will be no errors for the backup job, but in the Event Viewer you will see an error that Volume Shadow Copy service was trying to start but that it is disabled and cannot start. Jared M. Seaton Recovery Administrator Mylan Laboratories Inc. 304-554-5926 Justin Piszcz [EMAIL

Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?

2007-07-24 Thread Jared . Seaton
Shadow Copy Components:\ will not be backed up if Volume Shadow Copy service is disabled. With ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES as backup selection, NetBackup calls the VSC service to create the Shadow Copy Components:\. When the service is disabled, Shadow Copy Components:\ cannot be created therefore it is

Re: [Veritas-bu] retentions

2007-07-24 Thread Ed Wilts
This doesn't really address all of the issues. In order for this to work, you have to know what the schedule of the jobs are supposed to be. We've got a ton of backups that only run monthly and another ton that only run semi-annually. Unless I sit down with a calendar, telling when the last

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread Curtis Preston
Wow, you've gone the opposite way (one policy per drive). Ouch! I've had the scenario you describe work just fine with multistreaming --without doing what you're doing. For example, if A, B, C, D were supposed to do a full, and then one of them failed, it would only re-run the one that

Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?

2007-07-24 Thread Curtis Preston
But don't you WANT shadow copy to run? It's now the official way to get a stable image of a running drive, right? What extra stuff is getting backed up that you want to exclude, Justin? --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse

Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?

2007-07-24 Thread Justin Piszcz
I want to exclude the registry backup for all Windows Backups. Justin. On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Curtis Preston wrote: But don't you WANT shadow copy to run? It's now the official way to get a stable image of a running drive, right? What extra stuff is getting backed up that you want to

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread briandiven
That's true, but it won't work if it's outside of the backup window ... It will then fail with a status 196. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 4:54 PM To: Kohli, Vidit;

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread Curtis Preston
You're saying if you manually re-run a backup via the activity monitor during the daytime, it will fail with a 196? I didn't realize that. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?

2007-07-24 Thread Justin Piszcz
Already tried to exclude Shadow Copy Components:\ and System_State:\ no go for either, its not needed in my environment, is 1-3GB and sometimes causes failures with various clients, its a waste of time/resources and it will never be needed. I have never had any luck excluding it though. On

Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?

2007-07-24 Thread Conner, Neil
Don't use ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES then. Specify C: D: E: ... instead. List all the drives possibly in use for all the clients in the policy - clients with fewer drives configured won't complain. Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread David Rock
* Curtis Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-24 18:21]: You're saying if you manually re-run a backup via the activity monitor during the daytime, it will fail with a 196? I didn't realize that. That would make sense because re-running is functionally similar to rescheduling a job, which takes

Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?

2007-07-24 Thread Justin Piszcz
Yeah but the Windows guys usually handle their own backups and we use ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES and they set the include/exclude-- otherwise, I would do that. On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Conner, Neil wrote: Don't use ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES then. Specify C: D: E: ... instead. List all the drives possibly in use

[Veritas-bu] Index restore from offsite tapes

2007-07-24 Thread Raghava Karumanchi
For restoring data from recycled tapes and non browsable .. can we do it while restoring indexes from offsite catalog tapes ? if so please could someone share on how we can do this without affecting browsable images. Env : NBU 6.0 MP4, Solaris 10 Thanks in advance Raghava

Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-24 Thread Curtis Preston
I learned something today! --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Rock Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:44 PM To:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components fromALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?

2007-07-24 Thread Curtis Preston
That hasn't been my experience. If you configure a drive F: and there isn't an F:, you get a job that fails with no such drive. I don't like failures. My opinion is that ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES is a good thing, and backing up an extra GB or too is a small price to pay. The risk of what happens when

Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy ComponentsfromA LL_LOCAL_DRIVES?

2007-07-24 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Status 71 - None of the Files exist Curtis :-) ! Reading this thread, there seems to be either a lack of understand on the imporantance of Shadow Copy Components. My recommendation is that you leave well alone. If you do A_L_Drives, then a Win2k3 box WILL include this by default. If your policy