[Veritas-bu] Netbackup very slow

2007-07-19 Thread nizar motasim
Dear All really I appreiated your helping and support last time . I face some problem with my Netbackup 5.0 which is installed under HP UX 11i in my enviroment ,we have 3 server the details as fallows : svr1 svr2 contains database ,netbackup installed on svr3 ,last time all policy jobs completed

[Veritas-bu] URGENT HELP - Advice

2007-07-19 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Hi All Got a major outage - 1 Media Server lost 400GB Disk. New disk in place, trying to restore, but throughput is BAD BAD BAD! Backups were done using multiple streams (4 streams per tape drive). I kicked off one RESTORE job to restore ALL Data to this one drive. Is there a benefit to kicking

[Veritas-bu] Status 52 but scratch available

2007-07-19 Thread Dave Markham
Netbackup 5.0Mp7 on Solaris9 servers with Solaris clients and Windows clients. Connected to L25 unit. Can anyone explain why i am getting all my jobs fail with status 52 yet i have scratch available? I run ITC so 2 drives are used at the same time. Now looking in

Re: [Veritas-bu] URGENT HELP - Advice

2007-07-19 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Ive ended up leaving the job as is for now - It looks like its behaving as expected. Starting to think that the Multiplex settings may have something to do with this, so will keep an eye on this... Thanks anyhow Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator

Re: [Veritas-bu] URGENT HELP - Advice

2007-07-19 Thread Clem Kruger (C)
Hi Simon, This is unfortunately the trade off of using multiple streams, the backup are fast but recovery is ssllooww. Regards, Clem Kruger -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: 19 July 2007 11:11 AM

Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 52 but scratch available

2007-07-19 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Dave Just a quick shot, what does tpconfig -d show? Is it all jobs from this Server Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-

Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 52 but scratch available

2007-07-19 Thread Dave Markham
Yeah its just one master/media server with network based clients. There are no tapes stuck in the drives and tpconfig -d shows all up and using robtest shows no tapes in the drives either so i dont think its a stuck tape :( D WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote: Dave Just a quick shot, what does

Re: [Veritas-bu] URGENT HELP - Advice

2007-07-19 Thread smpt
No, If you select all data then netbackup will read the tape ones. There is another problem. Try to put NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS_RESTORE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:11 PM To:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup very slow

2007-07-19 Thread Jeff Lightner
The most common reasons I've seen for slow backups: 1) Networking - If you're using 100BaseT make sure the card in the HP server AND the associated switch port are hard set to 100 MB / Full Duplex - They do NOT handle autonegotiate well at all. 2) Make sure you're backing up where

Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 52 but scratch available

2007-07-19 Thread Jeff Lightner
Not sure why you think scratch has anything to do with it. If no tapes were available you'd get a completely different error. 52 to me usually makes me look at the tape or the drive that was trying to be used to mount it. If you're seeing this on every drive and tape then it suggests a more

Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Recycler Directory

2007-07-19 Thread Martin, Jonathan
We disable the recycle bin. If you hit delete and hit yes it's gone. -Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:22 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu]

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBWin - 5.1MP5 Veritas logo spins forever [C1]

2007-07-19 Thread Boris Kraizman
Hi Misha, Try to run Java based GUI from the master server directly using a XWindow client on your windows system. Also, if you run the console from the W2K, try to bounce nbu services on the server, bpps -f stop and then bpps -f start, or even bounce the server as Windows needs it on regular

[Veritas-bu] How do I backup thee, Let me count the ways .

2007-07-19 Thread briandiven
Here are some of the options that I thought of for starters ... can anyone add to the list? 1. Traditional direct to tape backup via media server 2. Direct to tape via SAN media server/client 3. Snapshot 4. Mirrored disk 5. Proprietary application backup to flat

Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 52 but scratch available

2007-07-19 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Based on Jeff's comments and this may sound daft, have you re-run device storage configuration wizard ? See if it is picking up the drives and robot? Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth,

Re: [Veritas-bu] How do I backup thee, Let me count the ways .

2007-07-19 Thread Jeff Lightner
EMC Symmetrix BCV (disk to disk within same frame) and SRDF (disk from one frame to disk in another). Standby Database - create duplicate of your DB on another server - automatically copy the archive logs from PROD to Standby server and run the logs there on a scheduled basis to keep that DB

Re: [Veritas-bu] URGENT HELP - Advice

2007-07-19 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Yes, they will learn from this! Still, at least I know it's a long wait :-) Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Clem

Re: [Veritas-bu] End of Life dates for 5.0 and 5.1

2007-07-19 Thread Paulo Prado
Just a warm warning: its related to Unix 5.x paltaform. Looking inside: Notice of Timelines for End of Life, End of Standard Support, and End of Support Life for NetBackup 5.x and Storage Migrator for UNIX 5.x Tanks, Paulo Prado - Original Message From: Ed Wilts [EMAIL

Re: [Veritas-bu] URGENT HELP - Advice

2007-07-19 Thread Jeff Lightner
Learning is fun - I remember when we first worked with DLT robots. Management couldn't believe that the tapes were so expensive so said there should be no retention longer than 6 months. At 7 months they were surprised when they found out they couldn't restore one of the first backups run. They

[Veritas-bu] Upgrading to 6.x - EMM Server Question

2007-07-19 Thread Kevin Whittaker
All, I am trying to understand the EMM server and why VERITAS keeps saying I need a different server? Do they own stock in SUN? Ok, seriously. I looked at the sizing documentation and EMM server is going to have almost nothing on it. What have you done? Different server or Master server for

Re: [Veritas-bu] End of Life dates for 5.0 and 5.1

2007-07-19 Thread Jeff Lightner
There is no UNIX 5.x - they're saying 5.x for UNIX. However it seems unlikely they'll end support on UNIX but keep it on Windows so I think its safe to assume timelines specified are for all platforms. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [Veritas-bu] End of Life dates for 5.0 and 5.1

2007-07-19 Thread Paulo Prado
Absolutely, sorry about the mistake. PP - Original Message From: Jeff Lightner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paulo Prado [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:15:16 PM Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] End of Life dates for 5.0 and 5.1 There is no “UNIX

Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrading to 6.x - EMM Server Question

2007-07-19 Thread rcarlisle
Most people put their emm server and master server on the same system. Although you could split them, I don't know anyone who actually is. Theoretically, you could have more than one master server pointed to the same EMM server. If that was something warranted in your environment, it might make

Re: [Veritas-bu] URGENT HELP - Advice

2007-07-19 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
I was going to, but I don't think its going to help with the restore running ? Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client Licenses in NetBackup

2007-07-19 Thread Austin Murphy
On 10/9/06, Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can have multiple virtual servers per physical servers (e.g. Windows cluster) that require 1 license per physical system, and you can have multiple operating systems on a VMware server that require one license per operating system type. Hi

Re: [Veritas-bu] How do I backup thee, Let me count the ways .

2007-07-19 Thread Austin Murphy
On 7/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are some of the options that I thought of for starters ... can anyone add to the list? Traditional direct to tape backup via media server Direct to tape via SAN media server/client Snapshot Mirrored disk Proprietary application

Re: [Veritas-bu] URGENT HELP - Advice

2007-07-19 Thread Paul Keating
Simon, how many streams do you mpx to a tape? If memory serves, you were writing 24 jobs or something to a single tape? -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: July 19, 2007 8:42 AM To: 'Clem Kruger

Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client Licensesin NetBackup

2007-07-19 Thread Paul Keating
I don't have a link at the moment, nor the time to search for it, but I'll back up what Ed says. For a Vmware physical server, you need one client license per OS. F'rinstance, a box running ESX, with Windows and Linux virtual servers on it, would require 1 windows and 1 linux license. Paul --

Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client LicensesinNetBackup

2007-07-19 Thread Preston, Douglas L
Unless you used something like esxranger to backup the vmware server instances to a physical machine then used the existing license to backup the images. Esxranger is licensed per cpu of the esx box. If it has 4 cpus you would need to license 4 to backup that esx box. Doug Preston Systems

Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrading to 6.x - EMM Server Question

2007-07-19 Thread Kevin Whittaker
Does anybody know why they are recommending to put it on a different server? From: rcarlisle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:43 AM To: Kevin Whittaker; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Upgrading to 6.x - EMM

Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrading to 6.x - EMM Server Question

2007-07-19 Thread Jeff Lightner
As noted below it might be based on your environment size. Here we have a master and about 20 media servers and did NOT put it on separate server when we did the upgrade from 5.1 to 6.0 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin

Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client LicensesinNetBackup

2007-07-19 Thread Austin Murphy
On 7/19/07, Preston, Douglas L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... then used the existing license to backup the images. Yes, but... If you have 10 linux virtuals and 10 windows virtuals running on a single VMware on linux system, how many NetBackup licenses do you need? The prevailing wisdom on

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBWin - 5.1MP5 Veritas logo spins forever [C1]

2007-07-19 Thread Boris Kraizman
Ops, my apology on Windows from command line bpdown -f bpup -f and check the status of running services bpps regards On 7/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Solaris master and 4 media servers plus 1 W2K serverdedicated for restores of Windows, Lotus Notes servers and NAS

Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client LicensesinNetBackup

2007-07-19 Thread Preston, Douglas L
You can not backup running vm virtual machines one a esx box by backing up the linux side of the esx box. The only way to backup them up via netbackup is to purchase a license for each vm virtual machine. In your example of 10 linux vm virtual machines and 10 windows vm virtual machines you

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1MP6 x86 Client Issues

2007-07-19 Thread ckstehman
Yes, I have seen this. It usually ends up being some sort of mis-match of NIC settings. Be sure that the NIC on the client (exchange) matches the port on the switch all the way from the client to the media server. For older systems we had to force 100MB no auto. The newer systems can go GigE

Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client LicensesinNetBackup

2007-07-19 Thread Paul Keating
From: http://eval.symantec.com/mktginfo/products/Sales_Docs/Data_Protection/nb u_51_plguide_final_060304.pdf I haven't seen an updated version of this lately MULTIPLE DOMAIN OR VIRTUAL MACHINE SYSTEMS NetBackup components (servers, clients, and database agents) for UNIX, Windows,

Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrading to 6.x - EMM Server Question

2007-07-19 Thread ckstehman
We are running Windows and Solaris Master servers, and the EMM database is on the same system in both cases. We have not had any problems. (Are you confusing EMM with NOM?) = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager

Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional Client LicensesinNetBackup

2007-07-19 Thread Austin Murphy
Thanks Paul, Searching for the title of that document yielded a slightly newer version (dated December 6, 2004): http://eval.symantec.com/mktginfo/products/White_Papers/Data_Protection/nbu_5x_plguide_update_final.pdf It definitively answers a lot of licensing questions that I have about 5.x.

Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining Number of Additional ClientLicensesinNetBackup

2007-07-19 Thread rcarlisle
Nothing changed between 5.x and 6.06.5 will have changes to the licensing structure. Nothing official until it is released. Reneé Carlisle ServerWare Corporation -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Austin Murphy Sent:

[Veritas-bu] retentions

2007-07-19 Thread Brandon Zermeno
We had an issue where was server was down for over 2 weeks and the last full backups expired. The retention for this environment is 2 weeks. After the tapes expired the App team decided they wanted to restore. Now management wants Veritas to extend the retention period automatically if a full is

Re: [Veritas-bu] retentions

2007-07-19 Thread Cornely, David
As far as I know once images expire they are deleted from the Netbackup catalog - as a result (and as you state) it is not possible to unexpire images within the catalog via bpexpdate. The only option is to manually import the images off the tapes, assuming you know what tapes have the images you

Re: [Veritas-bu] retentions

2007-07-19 Thread David Rock
* Brandon Zermeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-19 15:50]: We had an issue where was server was down for over 2 weeks and the last full backups expired. The retention for this environment is 2 weeks. After the tapes expired the App team decided they wanted to restore. Now management wants Veritas

Re: [Veritas-bu] retentions

2007-07-19 Thread Brandon Zermeno
This is what I am looking for. We have had nothing but useless junk from Command Central and Advanced Reporter and I have no faith in the latest version Backup Reporting. Does Aptare manage to show you when the last backup was run successfully? In this case we overwrote the tape so importing was

Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrading to 6.x - EMM Server Question

2007-07-19 Thread Ed Wilts
I am trying to understand the EMM server and why VERITAS keeps saying I need a different server? Do they own stock in SUN? Ask *them* why! Veritas as a company isn't telling you that you need a different server - one person at the company probably is. Ask him/her to explain why another server

Re: [Veritas-bu] retentions

2007-07-19 Thread Ed Wilts
This is what I am looking for. We have had nothing but useless junk from Command Central and Advanced Reporter and I have no faith in the latest version Backup Reporting. Does Aptare manage to show you when the last backup was run successfully? Aptare StorageConsole absolutely does this.

Re: [Veritas-bu] retentions

2007-07-19 Thread Martin, Jonathan
I've got an excel pivot table I use for a peek at this type of information, I'll send it your way. Basically it looks at amount of data backed up in jobs marked as fulls on a week by week basis. If your report looks something like Server 1 - 50GB, 50GB, 0GB Server 2 - 75GB, 75GB, 75GB Server

Re: [Veritas-bu] retentions

2007-07-19 Thread Curtis Preston
How about setting a longer retention period and _expiring_ backups if the conditions you're looking for have happened? As long as I'm at it, I think a two week retention period is crazy. You should always have AT LEAST three full cycles. (IOW, if you're doing a full backup every week, I