[Veritas-bu] ghost mediaDB entries

2007-12-19 Thread Marianne Van Den Berg
Hi 

 

Hope someone out there can help - I have a media server (NBU 5.1) with 3
ghost entries:

 

# bpmedialist -l

 *NULL* 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

 *NULL* 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

 *NULL* 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

SS *NULL* 1 6 1175362587 1175456239 1206992239 0 92369117 47 47 8 9
0 512 1024 0 1443364 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

SS0008 *NULL* 1 6 1196512629 1196518394 1228054394 0 273012374 143 143 8
9 0 513 1024 0 4266357 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

 

These 3 lines only have 24 fields in stead of 25.

 

We want to upgrade to NBU 6, but nbcc bombs when bpmedialist gets to
this media server.

 

Any idea how to fix it?

 

Regards

 

Marianne 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate Issue

2007-12-19 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Jimenez, Daniel wrote:

 Hey guys



 I have a tape that no longer has valid images but shows up as a daily
 tape with an assigned date in Netbackup. I attempted to bpexpdate the
 tape but it comes back with requested media id was not found in NB
 media database and/or MM volume database. I attempted to change the
 volume pool but it comes back with change pool of xx failed: cannot
 change volume pool for assigned volumes (91). There is a command that I
 found online bpexpdate -ev medai id -d 0 -force -host media server
 and would like to know if this command would work on Netbackup 5.1 MP?
 Any assistance would be appreciated, thanks.

 Daniel Jimenez
 Data Protection Team







Try  bpexpdate -deassignempty - note though this should only be used as a 
last resort as it can make the images/catalog out of sync for the images 
on that tape ID.

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide

2007-12-19 Thread Bobby R Windle
Yes! Welcome to the lovely world of Veritas/Symantec. Show me something 
that has been made easier for the end user ( person paying the piper ).

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
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Jeff Cleverley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
12/18/2007 08:00 PM

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide






Greetings,

I was wondering if you would send me a copy of the 6.x pricing guide. I've 
been trying to get one from our sales reps for over a month.  They claim 
to have never seen anything like it even though I sent them a copy of my 
5.x version as a reference.  Trying to figure out what licenses you need 
shouldn't be this hard :-)

Thanks,

Jeff

smpt wrote: 
I have 6.0. If you want it, I can send it to you
 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide
 

Anyone have a link to or recent copy of Veritas Netbackup Pricing and 
Licensing Guide? 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide

2007-12-19 Thread Patrick
The nice thing about the VERITAS pricing structure, it makes Tax forms look
easy. J

 

Regards,

 

Patrick Whelan

Whelan Consulting Limited

 

VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX.

VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Microsoft Windows.

 

 

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Windle
Sent: 19 December 2007 12:23
To: Jeff Cleverley
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide

 


Yes! Welcome to the lovely world of Veritas/Symantec. Show me something that
has been made easier for the end user ( person paying the piper ). 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com





Jeff Cleverley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

12/18/2007 08:00 PM 


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Subject

Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide

 






Greetings,

I was wondering if you would send me a copy of the 6.x pricing guide.  I've
been trying to get one from our sales reps for over a month.  They claim to
have never seen anything like it even though I sent them a copy of my 5.x
version as a reference.  Trying to figure out what licenses you need
shouldn't be this hard :-)

Thanks,

Jeff

smpt wrote: 
I have 6.0. If you want it, I can send it to you 
  

 

  _  


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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby R
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:43 PM
To:  mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide 
  

Anyone have a link to or recent copy of Veritas Netbackup Pricing and
Licensing Guide? 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] |  http://www.gore.com/
http://www.gore.com 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate Issue

2007-12-19 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Justin Piszcz wrote:



 On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Jimenez, Daniel wrote:

 Hey guys
 
 
 
 I have a tape that no longer has valid images but shows up as a daily
 tape with an assigned date in Netbackup. I attempted to bpexpdate the
 tape but it comes back with requested media id was not found in NB
 media database and/or MM volume database. I attempted to change the
 volume pool but it comes back with change pool of xx failed: cannot
 change volume pool for assigned volumes (91). There is a command that I
 found online bpexpdate -ev medai id -d 0 -force -host media server
 and would like to know if this command would work on Netbackup 5.1 MP?
 Any assistance would be appreciated, thanks.
 
 Daniel Jimenez
 Data Protection Team
 
 
 
 
 
 

 Try  bpexpdate -deassignempty - note though this should only be used as a 
 last resort as it can make the images/catalog out of sync for the images on 
 that tape ID.

 Justin.


Correct, vmquery -deassignbyid is what you want :)

Check the manual for the syntax.

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide

2007-12-19 Thread Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
Could you please send a copy to me also.

Thank you,
Aleksandr

On 12/18/07, Jeff Cleverley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings,

 I was wondering if you would send me a copy of the 6.x pricing guide.  I've
 been trying to get one from our sales reps for over a month.  They claim to
 have never seen anything like it even though I sent them a copy of my 5.x
 version as a reference.  Trying to figure out what licenses you need
 shouldn't be this hard :-)

 Thanks,

 Jeff

 smpt wrote:


 I have 6.0. If you want it, I can send it to you


 


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 Behalf Of Bobby R Windle
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:43 PM
 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide




 Anyone have a link to or recent copy of Veritas Netbackup Pricing and
 Licensing Guide?

 Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
 Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
 work: 302 292 4026
 cell  : 302 588 7374
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com

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[Veritas-bu] Errno 18 on restores from Solaris 8 to Solaris 8 via Windows 2003 Standard

2007-12-19 Thread Dep, Khushil (GE Money)
Hi All,
 
In testing the setup I backed up a Solaris 8 client via a Windows 2003
Standard server which completed without error. Now to test restore I
tried to restore to another location on the client but it was only
partialy successfull. I get a lot of the following:
 
14:11:32 (26.001) Changed /etc/rc0.d/k41nfs.client to
/opt/NBU_RESTORES/rc0.d/k41nfs.client
14:11:32 (26.001) Could not link /opt/NBU_RESTORES/rc0.d/k41nfs.client
- /etc/init.d/nfs.client. Errno = 18: Cross-device link
 
Obviously it's having problems restoring these symlinks but any ideas
why or how to resolve?
 
Khush.
 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Errno 18 on restores from Solaris 8 to Solaris 8 via Windows 2003 Standard

2007-12-19 Thread Jared . Seaton
I use 6.0 mp4, but when i click restore and the restore window comes up, 
it is under the options block, next to overwrite existing files.

Jared M. Seaton
Recovery Administrator
Mylan Inc.
304-554-5926
304-685-1389 (Cell)




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Sounds like what I need - where in BAR (6.5) do I find these options? I am 
looking but nothing resembling this option is showing up

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when i do restores of a backup to another location on the same client, I 
check 'rename hard links' uncheck 'rename soft links' 

works every time. 



Jared M. Seaton
Recovery Administrator
Mylan Inc.
304-554-5926
304-685-1389 (Cell)



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2003 Standard








Hi All,

In testing the setup I backed up a Solaris 8 client via a Windows 2003
Standard server which completed without error. Now to test restore I
tried to restore to another location on the client but it was only
partialy successfull. I get a lot of the following:

14:11:32 (26.001) Changed /etc/rc0.d/k41nfs.client to
/opt/NBU_RESTORES/rc0.d/k41nfs.client
14:11:32 (26.001) Could not link /opt/NBU_RESTORES/rc0.d/k41nfs.client
- /etc/init.d/nfs.client. Errno = 18: Cross-device link

Obviously it's having problems restoring these symlinks but any ideas
why or how to resolve?

Khush.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Errno 18 on restores from Solaris 8 to Solaris 8 via Windows 2003 Standard

2007-12-19 Thread Jared . Seaton
when i do restores of a backup to another location on the same client, I 
check 'rename hard links' uncheck 'rename soft links'

works every time.



Jared M. Seaton
Recovery Administrator
Mylan Inc.
304-554-5926
304-685-1389 (Cell)




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[Veritas-bu] Errno 18 on restores from Solaris 8 to Solaris 8 via Windows 
2003 Standard






Hi All,
 
In testing the setup I backed up a Solaris 8 client via a Windows 2003
Standard server which completed without error. Now to test restore I
tried to restore to another location on the client but it was only
partialy successfull. I get a lot of the following:
 
14:11:32 (26.001) Changed /etc/rc0.d/k41nfs.client to
/opt/NBU_RESTORES/rc0.d/k41nfs.client
14:11:32 (26.001) Could not link /opt/NBU_RESTORES/rc0.d/k41nfs.client
- /etc/init.d/nfs.client. Errno = 18: Cross-device link
 
Obviously it's having problems restoring these symlinks but any ideas
why or how to resolve?
 
Khush.
 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide

2007-12-19 Thread Mike Andres
Could I get a copy as well?
 
Thanks,
-mike



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide


Greetings,

I was wondering if you would send me a copy of the 6.x pricing guide.  I've 
been trying to get one from our sales reps for over a month.  They claim to 
have never seen anything like it even though I sent them a copy of my 5.x 
version as a reference.  Trying to figure out what licenses you need shouldn't 
be this hard :-)

Thanks,

Jeff

smpt wrote: 

I have 6.0. If you want it, I can send it to you

 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby R 
Windle
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:43 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide

 


Anyone have a link to or recent copy of Veritas Netbackup Pricing and 
Licensing Guide? 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com http://www.gore.com/ 





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Re: [Veritas-bu] Errno 18 on restores from Solaris 8 to Solaris 8 via Windows 2003 Standard

2007-12-19 Thread Dep, Khushil (GE Money)
Sounds like what I need - where in BAR (6.5) do I find these options? I
am looking but nothing resembling this option is showing up



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when i do restores of a backup to another location on the same client, I
check 'rename hard links' uncheck 'rename soft links' 

works every time. 



Jared M. Seaton
Recovery Administrator
Mylan Inc.
304-554-5926
304-685-1389 (Cell)




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Hi All,

In testing the setup I backed up a Solaris 8 client via a Windows 2003
Standard server which completed without error. Now to test restore I
tried to restore to another location on the client but it was only
partialy successfull. I get a lot of the following:

14:11:32 (26.001) Changed /etc/rc0.d/k41nfs.client to
/opt/NBU_RESTORES/rc0.d/k41nfs.client
14:11:32 (26.001) Could not link /opt/NBU_RESTORES/rc0.d/k41nfs.client
- /etc/init.d/nfs.client. Errno = 18: Cross-device link

Obviously it's having problems restoring these symlinks but any ideas
why or how to resolve?

Khush.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Errno 18 on restores from Solaris 8 to Solaris 8 viaWindows 2003 Standard

2007-12-19 Thread Preston, Douglas L
Not sure where it is set at but there is an option to backup the files
that the symlinks point to instead of the symlink.  Then on restores the
actual files will be in your alternate restore path instead of symlinks
that can't link.  

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Errno 18 on restores from Solaris 8 to Solaris 8
viaWindows 2003 Standard

Hi All,
 
In testing the setup I backed up a Solaris 8 client via a Windows 2003
Standard server which completed without error. Now to test restore I
tried to restore to another location on the client but it was only
partialy successfull. I get a lot of the following:
 
14:11:32 (26.001) Changed /etc/rc0.d/k41nfs.client to
/opt/NBU_RESTORES/rc0.d/k41nfs.client
14:11:32 (26.001) Could not link /opt/NBU_RESTORES/rc0.d/k41nfs.client
- /etc/init.d/nfs.client. Errno = 18: Cross-device link
 
Obviously it's having problems restoring these symlinks but any ideas
why or how to resolve?
 
Khush.
 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate Issue

2007-12-19 Thread Eagle, Kent
Daniel/Justin,

I know in 6.x all the databases are supposed to be on the master, but...
Be sure to run the command(s) from the media server that wrote the tape.
That should do the trick.


Let us know how you fare,

Kent Eagle
MTS Infrastructure Engineer II, MCP, MCSE
Tech Services / SMSS


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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:27:41 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate Issue
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Jimenez, Daniel wrote:

 Hey guys



 I have a tape that no longer has valid images but shows up as a daily 
 tape with an assigned date in Netbackup. I attempted to bpexpdate the 
 tape but it comes back with requested media id was not found in NB 
 media database and/or MM volume database. I attempted to change the 
 volume pool but it comes back with change pool of xx failed: 
 cannot change volume pool for assigned volumes (91). There is a 
 command that I found online bpexpdate -ev medai id -d 0 -force 
 -host media server and would like to know if this command would 
 work on Netbackup 5.1 MP? Any assistance would be appreciated, thanks.

 Daniel Jimenez
 Data Protection Team







Try  bpexpdate -deassignempty - note though this should only be used as
a 
last resort as it can make the images/catalog out of sync for the images

on that tape ID.

Justin.






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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5.1 Client Installation

2007-12-19 Thread Rajmund Siwik
You have to install 6.5 first.
6.5.1 is just a patch.

--Rajmund

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I have some windows and unix clients running a mix of
4.5FP6, 5.1, 6.0MP3 and 6.0MP4. When I upgrade my
clients to 6.5.1, can I directly install 6.5.1, or do
I have to install 6.5 first then apply 6.5.1?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] New Installation: 6.0 MP4 or 6.5 MPx ?

2007-12-19 Thread Ed Wilts
We have a great relationship with NetBackup support folks and engineers.
Much of this was built on the fact that when we upgraded from 5.1 to
6.0MP3we had a disaster on our hands.  We're currently at
6.0MP5 today and relatively stable.  We have conversations with them
multiple times per week and they've been at our site a few times (their
offices are only a few miles up the road).  We're not a small site although
we're far from their biggest customer and we have enough complexities thrown
in regularly that make the engineers earn their pay.

If I was starting fresh today, I'd go straight to 6.5.1.  In fact, this is
what we're going to on January 1, and we're basing this on our discussions
with Symantec and what they know about our environment and their product
(they obviously know about bugs that we don't since they may never have been
seen by a customer even though they're present in the code base).  This
decision was not taken lightly, and the Symantec folks know they'll be
onsite again if NBU doesn't perform as advertised.

One of your requirements is a large RHEL environment so remember that NBU
6.5 is the *first* release to support ACLs on RHEL and also the *first* to
support FlashBackup on Linux.  The SAN Media Server license doesn't exist
with 6.5 - it's now the Enterprise Client license and includes both the SAN
Media Server and FlashBackup functionality.  Since you're licensing this
piece anyway, you may as well see if FlashBackups will speed up your
backups.

BTW, Aptare reporting would not have been an issue even if you had it
installed - they support 6.5 today (and have for quite a while).

Something to think about...
   .../Ed

On 12/18/07, Jeff Cleverley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Greetings,

 I'm coming into an unique opportunity with regards to NetBackup.  I'm
 going to get to start from scratch.  No upgrades, imports, migrations,
 etc.   This environment is currently running NB5.0 and I also manage a
 5.1 backing up 70 TB of SAN storage.  We want to stay with NetBackup and
 not switch to another vendor.

 The old environment we inherited is old (hardware and software), been
 managed by at least 4 different groups of administrators and
 transitioned between at least 2 companies.  We know the database is not
 clean.  We've decided we are going to set up everything new and when
 everything on the old one expires, we're going to just shut it all off :-)

 I've seen a number of threads about which versions to go to (6.0 MP4 vs
 6.5 seemed the most common).  Almost all of these dealt with upgrades.
 I don't want to start any of the which is better threads but would like
 to see what people would choose if they had the start from scratch
 option.  From what I'm seeing, I'm leaning towards 6.0 MP4.

 Below is what we are going to be using and backing up:

 Master server - Dell 2950 RHEL4 (final details like release level still
 pending).
 Current SAN media servers - hpux 11.00 (L3000 x 2) and 1 hpux 11.11
 (rp3440), all fibre attached to the tape library.
 Network clients - 1 RH3 client.
 Tape library - Dell MS6000 with 4 fibre Gen 3 Ultrium drives.
 SAN switches - Brocade 4100 x 2 ( We will also run the EMC SAN
 connections through the switches).

 The plan is to start replacing the hpux servers with Dell servers.  They
 will also do SAN backups.  Everything else listed above will be new.
 There will be ~ 20 TB of SAN based data on the 4 servers.  Licensing may
 be an issue as it seems to have changed.  We currently have tier 1 hpux
 licenses for the master and SAN media servers, along with some unix
 network client licenses.  We're trying to figure out the tier changes
 but I can't get my hands on a licensing guide.  We have enough drive and
 SSO licenses for the new library.

 We don't do any database backups like Oracle, no Windows at all, no
 vaulting or remote replication, and don't currently have any reporting
 software like Aptare to deal with the latest revisions.  It sounds so
 easy and simple it scares me :-)

 Thanks,

 Jeff

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 4380 Ziegler Road
 Fort Collins, Colorado 80525
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Re: [Veritas-bu] New Installation: 6.0 MP4 or 6.5 MPx ?

2007-12-19 Thread Rajmund Siwik
Jeff,

I would choose 6.5.1. 
Eventually in the future you will have to switch to higher rev of
NetBackup.
Why don't start right from the start? It will spare you time and
headache of upgrading when to 6.5 and beyond eventually will hit EOL.
I have 3 servers running 6.5 and one, since yesterday, 6.5.1.
I upgraded from 6MP4 about 4 weeks ago. 
So far I have seen any problems other than usual error here or there.

--Rajmund

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Greetings,

I'm coming into an unique opportunity with regards to NetBackup.  I'm 
going to get to start from scratch.  No upgrades, imports, migrations, 
etc.   This environment is currently running NB5.0 and I also manage a 
5.1 backing up 70 TB of SAN storage.  We want to stay with NetBackup and

not switch to another vendor.

The old environment we inherited is old (hardware and software), been 
managed by at least 4 different groups of administrators and 
transitioned between at least 2 companies.  We know the database is not 
clean.  We've decided we are going to set up everything new and when 
everything on the old one expires, we're going to just shut it all off
:-)

I've seen a number of threads about which versions to go to (6.0 MP4 vs 
6.5 seemed the most common).  Almost all of these dealt with upgrades.  
I don't want to start any of the which is better threads but would like 
to see what people would choose if they had the start from scratch 
option.  From what I'm seeing, I'm leaning towards 6.0 MP4.

Below is what we are going to be using and backing up:

Master server - Dell 2950 RHEL4 (final details like release level still 
pending).
Current SAN media servers - hpux 11.00 (L3000 x 2) and 1 hpux 11.11 
(rp3440), all fibre attached to the tape library.
Network clients - 1 RH3 client.
Tape library - Dell MS6000 with 4 fibre Gen 3 Ultrium drives.
SAN switches - Brocade 4100 x 2 ( We will also run the EMC SAN 
connections through the switches).

The plan is to start replacing the hpux servers with Dell servers.  They

will also do SAN backups.  Everything else listed above will be new.  
There will be ~ 20 TB of SAN based data on the 4 servers.  Licensing may

be an issue as it seems to have changed.  We currently have tier 1 hpux 
licenses for the master and SAN media servers, along with some unix 
network client licenses.  We're trying to figure out the tier changes 
but I can't get my hands on a licensing guide.  We have enough drive and

SSO licenses for the new library.

We don't do any database backups like Oracle, no Windows at all, no 
vaulting or remote replication, and don't currently have any reporting 
software like Aptare to deal with the latest revisions.  It sounds so 
easy and simple it scares me :-)

Thanks,

Jeff

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970-288-4611
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide

2007-12-19 Thread Jeff Cleverley

Greetings,

I've received several requests for the guide.  I went looking for where 
I found it and it is on Symantec's web page at this address:


http://eval.symantec.com/mktginfo/products/Sales_Docs/Data_Protection/nbu_51_plguide_final_060304.pdf

I noticed that at least  how drives for virtual tape libraries seemed to 
have changed from previous versions.  This could have swayed my decision 
of purchasing a NearStore towards a VTL.  Other things may have changed 
also.


Since it is on their web page and available to the public, I don't think 
they can complain about who gets it.  I found this from google because I 
couldn't find it using the search engine on their web page :-)


Jeff

Mike Andres wrote:

Could I get a copy as well?
 
Thanks,

-mike


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Greetings,

I was wondering if you would send me a copy of the 6.x pricing guide.  
I've been trying to get one from our sales reps for over a month.  
They claim to have never seen anything like it even though I sent them 
a copy of my 5.x version as a reference.  Trying to figure out what 
licenses you need shouldn't be this hard :-)


Thanks,

Jeff

smpt wrote:


I have 6.0. If you want it, I can send it to you

 




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Anyone have a link to or recent copy of Veritas Netbackup Pricing and 
Licensing Guide?


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Errno 18 on restores from Solaris 8 to Solaris 8 via Windows 2003 Standard

2007-12-19 Thread Dep, Khushil (GE Money)
Thanks Jared. All working fine now! :-)
 
Can anyone point me to any BMR resources - how it works, etc too please?
Just doing some research.
 
Khush



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I use 6.0 mp4, but when i click restore and the restore window comes up,
it is under the options block, next to overwrite existing files. 

Jared M. Seaton
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Mylan Inc.
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304-685-1389 (Cell)




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Sounds like what I need - where in BAR (6.5) do I find these options? I
am looking but nothing resembling this option is showing up 




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when i do restores of a backup to another location on the same client, I
check 'rename hard links' uncheck 'rename soft links' 

works every time. 



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Hi All,

In testing the setup I backed up a Solaris 8 client via a Windows 2003
Standard server which completed without error. Now to test restore I
tried to restore to another location on the client but it was only
partialy successfull. I get a lot of the following:

14:11:32 (26.001) Changed /etc/rc0.d/k41nfs.client to
/opt/NBU_RESTORES/rc0.d/k41nfs.client
14:11:32 (26.001) Could not link /opt/NBU_RESTORES/rc0.d/k41nfs.client
- /etc/init.d/nfs.client. Errno = 18: Cross-device link

Obviously it's having problems restoring these symlinks but any ideas
why or how to resolve?

Khush.


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[Veritas-bu] Tapes not staying in Volume pools (NBU6.5)

2007-12-19 Thread Keating, John
Hello all;
 
I'm currently having an issue with tapes that aren't staying in their
assigned volume pools.
 
We have 4 weekly pools with 14 tapes in each. Each week it seems I have
re-assign tapes to their pools from the scratch pool.
 
Does anyone know of a way to stop or lock them into the pools that
they're assigned to?
 
Thanks for the help.
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tapes not staying in Volume pools (NBU6.5)

2007-12-19 Thread Paul Keating
if a tape is assigned to a pool from scratch, then when the backup
images on that tape expire, the tape goes back to scratch.
 
if you do not have a scratch pool defined, this will not happen, if I
understand correctly.
 
Paul
 
 
 
 
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Hello all;
 
I'm currently having an issue with tapes that aren't staying in
their assigned volume pools.
 
We have 4 weekly pools with 14 tapes in each. Each week it seems
I have re-assign tapes to their pools from the scratch pool.
 
Does anyone know of a way to stop or lock them into the pools
that they're assigned to?
 
Thanks for the help.
 
John



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tapes not staying in Volume pools (NBU6.5)

2007-12-19 Thread Jared . Seaton
delete your scratch pool, it wont have anything to go to.

Is there a reason you need to have specific media in certain pools? 
NetBackup will just grab tapes out of the Scratch pool when it needs them.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tapes not staying in Volume pools (NBU6.5)

2007-12-19 Thread Jared . Seaton
or bettter yet, just uncheck the 'scratch pool' box from the volume pool 
properties.


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[Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 all jobs hanging

2007-12-19 Thread Hudson, Steve
We have seen at least 4 times in the last week where all Jobs Hang and
it looks like BPSCHED goes away. We must then use the Kill -9 command on
the Solaris 8 host to kill everything as the bp.kill_all and netbackup
stop commands are ineffective. Anyone else seen this behavior in 5.1 MP5
??? 

 

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Iron Mountain

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tapes not staying in Volume pools (NBU6.5)

2007-12-19 Thread Bobby Williams
If you start the tapes in a pool other than scratch, they will not go back
to scratch when they expire.
 



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or bettter yet, just uncheck the 'scratch pool' box from the volume pool
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Does anyone know of a way to stop or lock them into the pools that they're
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tapes not staying in Volume pools (NBU6.5)

2007-12-19 Thread Tim Hoke
You may want to investigate the RETURN_UNASSIGNED_MEDIA_TO_SCRATCH_POOL
parameter (vm.conf in pre-6.x and set via nbemmcmd on 6.x).

It's a yes/no thing and will NOT return media to scratch if that's not where
they came from.  But this (along with having or not having a scratch pool)
is an all or nothing proposition (it can't be set for a particular pool or
set of tapes or fill in the blank for you you'd like to slice and dice).

-Tim

On 12/19/07, Paul Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  if a tape is assigned to a pool from scratch, then when the backup images
 on that tape expire, the tape goes back to scratch.

 if you do not have a scratch pool defined, this will not happen, if I
 understand correctly.

 Paul




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 Hello all;

 I'm currently having an issue with tapes that aren't staying in their
 assigned volume pools.

 We have 4 weekly pools with 14 tapes in each. Each week it seems I have
 re-assign tapes to their pools from the scratch pool.

 Does anyone know of a way to stop or lock them into the pools that they're
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 all jobs hanging

2007-12-19 Thread Justin Piszcz
I have not seen that before but I have only used 5.1MP4 and 5.1MP6 in 
production, not 5.1MP5.  If you open a case with Symantec one of the first 
things they may ask you to do is upgrade to 5.1MP6, is that possible?

Justin.

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Hudson, Steve wrote:

 We have seen at least 4 times in the last week where all Jobs Hang and
 it looks like BPSCHED goes away. We must then use the Kill -9 command on
 the Solaris 8 host to kill everything as the bp.kill_all and netbackup
 stop commands are ineffective. Anyone else seen this behavior in 5.1 MP5
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide

2007-12-19 Thread Bobby R Windle
That is 2004.NBU51 etc...

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 all jobs hanging

2007-12-19 Thread Hudson, Steve
No probably not as we are looking to go to 6.5.1 right after the first
of the year...

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 all jobs hanging

I have not seen that before but I have only used 5.1MP4 and 5.1MP6 in 
production, not 5.1MP5.  If you open a case with Symantec one of the
first 
things they may ask you to do is upgrade to 5.1MP6, is that possible?

Justin.

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Hudson, Steve wrote:

 We have seen at least 4 times in the last week where all Jobs Hang and
 it looks like BPSCHED goes away. We must then use the Kill -9 command
on
 the Solaris 8 host to kill everything as the bp.kill_all and netbackup
 stop commands are ineffective. Anyone else seen this behavior in 5.1
MP5
 ???



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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 all jobs hanging

2007-12-19 Thread Paul Keating
There used to be a technote that no logner exists.

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/268122.htm :

Message Queue parameters: On some UNIX platforms with NetBackup
configurations, it can be necessary to increase the system's message
queue resources to avoid bpsched hangs.

For example, the following changes may need to be made to the
/etc/system file:
set msgsys:msginfo_msgmap=500
set msgsys:msginfo_msgmnb=65536
set msgsys:msginfo_msgssz=16
set msgsys:msginfo_msgseg=8192
set msgsys:msginfo_msgtql=500


Also, the below technote may be of interest.
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/274544.htm



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 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 all jobs hanging
 
 
 I have not seen that before but I have only used 5.1MP4 and 5.1MP6 in 
 production, not 5.1MP5.  If you open a case with Symantec one 
 of the first 
 things they may ask you to do is upgrade to 5.1MP6, is that possible?
 
 Justin.
 
 On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Hudson, Steve wrote:
 
  We have seen at least 4 times in the last week where all 
 Jobs Hang and
  it looks like BPSCHED goes away. We must then use the Kill 
 -9 command on
  the Solaris 8 host to kill everything as the bp.kill_all 
 and netbackup
  stop commands are ineffective. Anyone else seen this 
 behavior in 5.1 MP5
  ???
 
 
 
  Steven R. Hudson
 
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  Iron Mountain
 
  745 Atlantic Avenue
 
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  Phone: (617) 535-2849
 
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide

2007-12-19 Thread Bobby R Windle
If anyone has a copy of a NBU6.0 pricing guide, I would love it. Is this 
with the new Symantec SKU numbers.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate Issue

2007-12-19 Thread Justin Piszcz
Only works up to 5.x, after you go to 6.0 its a little more work.

Justin.

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Jimenez, Daniel wrote:

 Hey guys

 Thanks for all your help guys. Vmquery -deassignbyid worked and the tape
 is now in the scratch pool. I am not sure why the bpexpdate command did
 not work but glad there is an alternative command when tapes freak out
 like this. Thanks again.

 Daniel Jimenez
 Data Protection Team


 -Original Message-
 From: Eagle, Kent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:41 AM
 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Cc: Jimenez, Daniel; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate Issue

 Daniel/Justin,

 I know in 6.x all the databases are supposed to be on the master, but...
 Be sure to run the command(s) from the media server that wrote the tape.
 That should do the trick.


 Let us know how you fare,

 Kent Eagle
 MTS Infrastructure Engineer II, MCP, MCSE
 Tech Services / SMSS

 
 Message: 5
 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:27:41 -0500 (EST)
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 On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Jimenez, Daniel wrote:

 Hey guys



 I have a tape that no longer has valid images but shows up as a daily
 tape with an assigned date in Netbackup. I attempted to bpexpdate the
 tape but it comes back with requested media id was not found in NB
 media database and/or MM volume database. I attempted to change the
 volume pool but it comes back with change pool of xx failed:
 cannot change volume pool for assigned volumes (91). There is a
 command that I found online bpexpdate -ev medai id -d 0 -force
 -host media server and would like to know if this command would
 work on Netbackup 5.1 MP? Any assistance would be appreciated, thanks.

 Daniel Jimenez
 Data Protection Team







 Try  bpexpdate -deassignempty - note though this should only be used as
 a
 last resort as it can make the images/catalog out of sync for the images

 on that tape ID.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 all jobs hanging

2007-12-19 Thread Justin Piszcz
Ahh yes he is using Solaris 8--definitely make sure you tune 
appropriately, with 10, most of the parameters are not needed.


Justin.

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Paul Keating wrote:


There used to be a technote that no logner exists.


http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/268122.htm :

Message Queue parameters: On some UNIX platforms with NetBackup
configurations, it can be necessary to increase the system's message
queue resources to avoid bpsched hangs.

For example, the following changes may need to be made to the
/etc/system file:
set msgsys:msginfo_msgmap=500
set msgsys:msginfo_msgmnb=65536
set msgsys:msginfo_msgssz=16
set msgsys:msginfo_msgseg=8192
set msgsys:msginfo_msgtql=500


Also, the below technote may be of interest.
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/274544.htm



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Justin Piszcz

Sent: December 19, 2007 12:50 PM
To: Hudson, Steve
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 all jobs hanging


I have not seen that before but I have only used 5.1MP4 and 5.1MP6 in 
production, not 5.1MP5.  If you open a case with Symantec one 
of the first 
things they may ask you to do is upgrade to 5.1MP6, is that possible?


Justin.

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Hudson, Steve wrote:

 We have seen at least 4 times in the last week where all 
Jobs Hang and
 it looks like BPSCHED goes away. We must then use the Kill 
-9 command on
 the Solaris 8 host to kill everything as the bp.kill_all 
and netbackup
 stop commands are ineffective. Anyone else seen this 
behavior in 5.1 MP5

 ???



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 Iron Mountain

 745 Atlantic Avenue

 Boston MA 02111

 Phone: (617) 535-2849



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate Issue

2007-12-19 Thread Jimenez, Daniel
Hey guys

Thanks for all your help guys. Vmquery -deassignbyid worked and the tape
is now in the scratch pool. I am not sure why the bpexpdate command did
not work but glad there is an alternative command when tapes freak out
like this. Thanks again.  

Daniel Jimenez 
Data Protection Team 


-Original Message-
From: Eagle, Kent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:41 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Cc: Jimenez, Daniel; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate Issue

Daniel/Justin,

I know in 6.x all the databases are supposed to be on the master, but...
Be sure to run the command(s) from the media server that wrote the tape.
That should do the trick.


Let us know how you fare,

Kent Eagle
MTS Infrastructure Engineer II, MCP, MCSE
Tech Services / SMSS


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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:27:41 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpexpdate Issue
To: Jimenez, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed



On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Jimenez, Daniel wrote:

 Hey guys



 I have a tape that no longer has valid images but shows up as a daily 
 tape with an assigned date in Netbackup. I attempted to bpexpdate the 
 tape but it comes back with requested media id was not found in NB 
 media database and/or MM volume database. I attempted to change the 
 volume pool but it comes back with change pool of xx failed: 
 cannot change volume pool for assigned volumes (91). There is a 
 command that I found online bpexpdate -ev medai id -d 0 -force 
 -host media server and would like to know if this command would 
 work on Netbackup 5.1 MP? Any assistance would be appreciated, thanks.

 Daniel Jimenez
 Data Protection Team







Try  bpexpdate -deassignempty - note though this should only be used as
a 
last resort as it can make the images/catalog out of sync for the images

on that tape ID.

Justin.






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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tapes not staying in Volume pools (NBU6.5)

2007-12-19 Thread Kevin Whittaker
Actually that is not true.  I have 7 robots (6 VTL and 1 physical).  I
like to keep all the VTL robot tapes out of the scratch pool and it
worked fine in NB 5.1.
 
But since, I have went to 6.5, all unassigned tapes have ended in the
scratch pool.  Even when I assign the tape to the other pool, it will
put an empty tape into the scratch pool.  I was considering opening an
ticket with Symantec about it, but it actually has turned out to be no
big to have them all in the scratch pool so I have not said anything.
 
I will even say that during the day, a unassigned tape within a pool has
been sent back to the scratch pool WITHOUT actually ever being used.
So, I think so cleanup program is actually doing it.  Just a thought.
 
Kevin



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If you start the tapes in a pool other than scratch, they will not go
back to scratch when they expire.
 



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or bettter yet, just uncheck the 'scratch pool' box from the volume pool
properties. 


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Hello all; 
  
I'm currently having an issue with tapes that aren't staying in their
assigned volume pools. 
  
We have 4 weekly pools with 14 tapes in each. Each week it seems I have
re-assign tapes to their pools from the scratch pool. 
  
Does anyone know of a way to stop or lock them into the pools that
they're assigned to? 
  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tapes not staying in Volume pools (NBU6.5)

2007-12-19 Thread Paul Keating
 
 
 
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Actually that is not true.  I have 7 robots (6 VTL and 1
physical).  I like to keep all the VTL robot tapes out of the scratch
pool and it worked fine in NB 5.1. 
 
whyzat?
you can see each VTL's scratch easily by selecting the
appropriate robot. 
I keep my vtl media and physical media categorized as different
types with different barcode seeds, so the two shall never clash. 



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[Veritas-bu] Any BMR with Linux clients success ?

2007-12-19 Thread ldrolez

Hi!

I'm trying a NBU6.0 MP5 + BMR backup of a linux system and the BMR collect 
phase always fails: 

12/19/07 12:27:58 - transferring BMR information to the master server
12/19/07 12:27:58 - connecting
12/19/07 12:27:58 - connected; connect time: 000:00:00
12/19/07 12:27:59 - Error bpbrm(pid=27331) Did not receive bmr client request 
from  \
 status = 0

I've tried on: 
- RedHat 4.0 Update 4
- Centos 4.4
- Debian Etch

Always the same error...
If I take a look at the client's BMR logs, I can see:

  0,51216,128,121,1,1198060074814,5346,1,0:,69:Could not do stat on file 
/usr/openv/netbackup/baremetal/client/data/,40:fileAttribsCommon.cpp:FileExistsCommon(),1
  
1,51216,128,121,2,1198060075003,5346,1,0:,0:,25:bmrSystem.cpp:SetOsInfo(),1,(312|A55:Red
 Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant Update 5)|)
  0,51216,128,121,3,1198060075131,5346,1,0:,33:Failed verifying OS support for 
.,27:CSystemAgent.cpp:discover(),1
  0,51216,121,121,1,1198060075131,5346,1,0:,31:sysAgent-discover failed, 
rc=4,23:CBmrSaveCfg::discover(),1

Any ideas ?
TIA,

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tapes not staying in Volume pools (NBU6.5)

2007-12-19 Thread Keating, John
Hey Kevin,
 
I'm experiencing the same types of Glitches with my 6.5 environment.
 
I may open a ticket and if I find out any useful info I'll send you a
quick mail.
 
thanks
John



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Actually that is not true.  I have 7 robots (6 VTL and 1 physical).  I
like to keep all the VTL robot tapes out of the scratch pool and it
worked fine in NB 5.1.
 
But since, I have went to 6.5, all unassigned tapes have ended in the
scratch pool.  Even when I assign the tape to the other pool, it will
put an empty tape into the scratch pool.  I was considering opening an
ticket with Symantec about it, but it actually has turned out to be no
big to have them all in the scratch pool so I have not said anything.
 
I will even say that during the day, a unassigned tape within a pool has
been sent back to the scratch pool WITHOUT actually ever being used.
So, I think so cleanup program is actually doing it.  Just a thought.
 
Kevin



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If you start the tapes in a pool other than scratch, they will not go
back to scratch when they expire.
 



Bobby Williams 
2205 Peterson Drive 
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421 
423-296-8200 

 



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or bettter yet, just uncheck the 'scratch pool' box from the volume pool
properties. 


Jared M. Seaton
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Mylan Inc.
304-554-5926
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I'm currently having an issue with tapes that aren't staying in their
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We have 4 weekly pools with 14 tapes in each. Each week it seems I have
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Does anyone know of a way to stop or lock them into the pools that
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Any BMR with Linux clients success ?

2007-12-19 Thread Brooks, Jason
They are all unsupported with 6.0.  RHEL 4 support for BMR came with 6.5.
That's why you see this:

A55:Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant Update
5)|)0,51216,128,121,3,1198060075131,5346,1,0:,33:

Failed verifying OS support for .

,27:CSystemAgent.cpp:discover(),1

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 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Any BMR with Linux clients success ?
 
 
 Hi!
 
 I'm trying a NBU6.0 MP5 + BMR backup of a linux system and 
 the BMR collect phase always fails:
 
 12/19/07 12:27:58 - transferring BMR information to the master server
 12/19/07 12:27:58 - connecting
 12/19/07 12:27:58 - connected; connect time: 000:00:00
 12/19/07 12:27:59 - Error bpbrm(pid=27331) Did not receive 
 bmr client request from  \  status = 0
 
 I've tried on:
 - RedHat 4.0 Update 4
 - Centos 4.4
 - Debian Etch
 
 Always the same error...
 If I take a look at the client's BMR logs, I can see:
 
   0,51216,128,121,1,1198060074814,5346,1,0:,69:Could not do 
 stat on file 
 /usr/openv/netbackup/baremetal/client/data/,40:fileAttribsComm
 on.cpp:FileExistsCommon(),1
   
 1,51216,128,121,2,1198060075003,5346,1,0:,0:,25:bmrSystem.cpp:
 SetOsInfo(),1,(312|A55:Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 
 (Nahant Update 5)|)
   0,51216,128,121,3,1198060075131,5346,1,0:,33:Failed 
 verifying OS support for .,27:CSystemAgent.cpp:discover(),1
   
 0,51216,121,121,1,1198060075131,5346,1,0:,31:sysAgent-discove
 r failed, rc=4,23:CBmrSaveCfg::discover(),1
 
 Any ideas ?
 TIA,
 
   Ludovic.
 
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[Veritas-bu] VCB with Netbackup 6.5.1

2007-12-19 Thread UlrichJU

I am running a pilot test of backing up the VMware VM's with VMWare VCB and 
Netbackup 6.5.1.   I have a VCB server that is running VCB 1.1 and Netbackup 
6.5.1 media server.  This interfaces with Virtual Center to see the VM's .  But 
so far the only way I can get this process to work is by having a client loaded 
on each VM.   I thought that I had read that a client was not required on each 
VM when using VCB and Netbackup.   The only time I see it connect to the VM 
client is to verify it's existence in the beginning, from there everything is 
done through the VCB proxy box.  So why do I need to pay for a client on each 
of my VM's?  Anyone had any experience with this?   Is a client really needed 
on the VM's?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Any BMR with Linux clients success ?

2007-12-19 Thread Ludovic Drolez
Le mercredi 19 décembre 2007 20:39, Brooks, Jason a écrit :
 They are all unsupported with 6.0.  RHEL 4 support for BMR came with 6.5.
 That's why you see this:

 A55:Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant Update
 5)|)0,51216,128,121,3,1198060075131,5346,1,0:,33:


LOL ! So NBU 6.5 begins to support a 3 years old OS !
I guess that RHEL5 support will come in 2015 :-)

Any idea why there's no generic Linux support ? I know backup products which 
support any Linux distribution ...

In which document can I find which Linux distributions, file-systems and boot 
loader are supported ?

-- 
Ludovic Drolez.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 all jobs hanging

2007-12-19 Thread Stuart Liddle
In my previous job, we had this problem (and they probably still do).  We were 
running on a Solaris-9 master server.  We had over 1600 clients and over 1300 
policies.  The jobs were running 7x24.  We upped the values in the /etc/system 
file to the maximum for what Paul pointed out below.  All of this was of 
limited use as it would still hang up about once a week or so.

The solution is to go to 6.x because of the new scheduler.

--stuart liddle

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 all jobs hanging

Ahh yes he is using Solaris 8--definitely make sure you tune 
appropriately, with 10, most of the parameters are not needed.

Justin.

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Paul Keating wrote:

 There used to be a technote that no logner exists.

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/268122.htm :

Message Queue parameters: On some UNIX platforms with NetBackup
configurations, it can be necessary to increase the system's message
queue resources to avoid bpsched hangs.

For example, the following changes may need to be made to the
/etc/system file:
set msgsys:msginfo_msgmap=500
set msgsys:msginfo_msgmnb=65536
set msgsys:msginfo_msgssz=16
set msgsys:msginfo_msgseg=8192
set msgsys:msginfo_msgtql=500


Also, the below technote may be of interest.
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/274544.htm



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 I have not seen that before but I have only used 5.1MP4 and 5.1MP6 in 
 production, not 5.1MP5.  If you open a case with Symantec one 
 of the first 
 things they may ask you to do is upgrade to 5.1MP6, is that possible?
 
 Justin.
 
 On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Hudson, Steve wrote:
 
  We have seen at least 4 times in the last week where all 
 Jobs Hang and
  it looks like BPSCHED goes away. We must then use the Kill 
 -9 command on
  the Solaris 8 host to kill everything as the bp.kill_all 
 and netbackup
  stop commands are ineffective. Anyone else seen this 
 behavior in 5.1 MP5
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Re: [Veritas-bu] VCB with Netbackup 6.5.1

2007-12-19 Thread Scott Jacobson
Yes the client is needed.
 
Snapshot Provider is now integrated into the 6.5 standard client. The old 
Advanced Client (Snapshot Provider) in 6.5.1 or 6.5.2 is the way and reason why 
NetBackup (Symantec) was the first to be able to integrate with VCB so quickly. 
 It's virtually the same code they've been using for years, just a few tweaks 
to integrate the VMware commands to start and stop the vm.
 
The question I still have is the pricing. In a Product Feature PPS Guild I had 
seen from this years Vision, it listed this as an Option. For me, in the past 
with, option with Veritas means more $$$.
 
But remember the VMware client pricing model which has been discussed 
vigorously in this forum before.
 
Example:
 
ESX Server
- 1+ Windows Guests (x number of installed NetBackup Clients) - You pay for 
only one client license.
- 1+ Linux Guests (x number of installed NetBackup Clients) - You pay for only 
one client license.
- 1+ Solaris Guests (x number of installed NetBackup Clients) - You pay for 
only one client license.
 
Scott


 UlrichJU [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/19/2007 1:28 PM 

I am running a pilot test of backing up the VMware VM's with VMWare VCB and 
Netbackup 6.5.1.   I have a VCB server that is running VCB 1.1 and Netbackup 
6.5.1 media server.  This interfaces with Virtual Center to see the VM's .  But 
so far the only way I can get this process to work is by having a client loaded 
on each VM.   I thought that I had read that a client was not required on each 
VM when using VCB and Netbackup.   The only time I see it connect to the VM 
client is to verify it's existence in the beginning, from there everything is 
done through the VCB proxy box.  So why do I need to pay for a client on each 
of my VM's?  Anyone had any experience with this?   Is a client really needed 
on the VM's?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] VCB with Netbackup 6.5.1

2007-12-19 Thread George Winter
A NetBackup client does not need to be installed inside the virtual
machine when using VMware Consolidated Backup with NetBackup 6.5.1.
When using NetBackup's VMware integration, no NetBackup software needs
to be installed anywhere on the ESX server.

What type of error are you encountering?  You mention that you are
running VCB 1.1.   VMware changed the default port that is used.  VCB
1.1 uses port 443.  This is discussed on page 9 of the NetBackup 6.5.1
for VMware documentation that can be found here:

http://entsupport.symantec.com/docs/293350

-George

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I am running a pilot test of backing up the VMware VM's with VMWare VCB
and Netbackup 6.5.1.   I have a VCB server that is running VCB 1.1 and
Netbackup 6.5.1 media server.  This interfaces with Virtual Center to
see the VM's .  But so far the only way I can get this process to work
is by having a client loaded on each VM.   I thought that I had read
that a client was not required on each VM when using VCB and Netbackup.
The only time I see it connect to the VM client is to verify it's
existence in the beginning, from there everything is done through the
VCB proxy box.  So why do I need to pay for a client on each of my VM's?
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VM's?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide

2007-12-19 Thread Jeff Cleverley

Bobby and everyone,

My apologies on the misunderstanding.  I had a couple of people ask for 
a 5.x version also just for reference.  The link is for a 5.x version 
and not a 6.x.


Jeff

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tapes not staying in Volume pools (NBU6.5)

2007-12-19 Thread Rockey Reed
John,

 

If you are using special barcode sequence for the weekly backups then set up a 
barcode rule (inventory, advanced); otherwise, what is the problem with letting 
the tapes come from scratch and being put into the correct pool.  They will be 
assigned by pool name and retention.  

 

NetBackup is a managed application: Either you manage it, or it manages you!

 

Thanks,

Rockey J. Reed

Lead Solutions Architect

 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:46 AM
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Cc: Keating, John; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tapes not staying in Volume pools (NBU6.5)

 

You may want to investigate the RETURN_UNASSIGNED_MEDIA_TO_SCRATCH_POOL 
parameter (vm.conf in pre-6.x and set via nbemmcmd on 6.x).

It's a yes/no thing and will NOT return media to scratch if that's not where 
they came from.  But this (along with having or not having a scratch pool) is 
an all or nothing proposition (it can't be set for a particular pool or set of 
tapes or fill in the blank for you you'd like to slice and dice). 

-Tim

On 12/19/07, Paul Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

if a tape is assigned to a pool from scratch, then when the backup images on 
that tape expire, the tape goes back to scratch.

 

if you do not have a scratch pool defined, this will not happen, if I 
understand correctly.

 

Paul

 

 

 

 

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Tapes not staying in Volume pools (NBU6.5)

Hello all;

 

I'm currently having an issue with tapes that aren't staying in their 
assigned volume pools.

 

We have 4 weekly pools with 14 tapes in each. Each week it seems I have 
re-assign tapes to their pools from the scratch pool.

 

Does anyone know of a way to stop or lock them into the pools that 
they're assigned to?

 

Thanks for the help.

 

John





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