Re: [Veritas-bu] NB Upgrade 3.4 to 6.5
Well if I think if I was in this situation, I may have a new install of 6.x on a new Server and in the event of doing any restores, shutdown the 6.x server, bring up the 3.4.1 NT Server and restore any old Data. I sort of done this before, and apart from disconnecting the new server from the robot, and attaching to the old Server, it was fine. Another option, is to do a new install of a Server, and import any MONTH END tapes that you think you may need ! Just a thought really Simon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:28 PM To: Jerry Rioux Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NB Upgrade 3.4 to 6.5 WOW Now that's a big upgrade, hope you aren't planning to do this all in one day. Plus what would worry me is that you are doing all those upgrades on a VM without actually being able to verify if anything even works Why not just upgrade current system to 4.5, setup the new hardware with 4.5 and import catalog. Run a full catalog backup, then upgrade to 5.1 and so on. I personally have only performed upgrades from Solaris running 5.1 6 AIX running 6 6.5 (not in production yet, just did in test) The 5.1 to 6 can be painful if you don't have a good plan. NBCC is critical to a successfully 5.1 6 upgrade. http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/294900.htm Jared M. Seaton Recovery Administrator Mylan Inc. 304-554-5926 304-685-1389 (Cell) Jerry Rioux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/03/2008 02:54 PM To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] NB Upgrade 3.4 to 6.5 We are planning the above mentioned upgrade. The catch is that we are switching hardware and OS as well. Currently running 3.4.1 on WinNT New Backup server (which will have the same name) is Windows 2003 and will have 6.5 loaded on it. These are my proposed steps: 1 - Create a VM of WIN NT and install NB3.4 2 - Import NB catalog 3 - Upgrade VM and NB to 4.5 4 - Create a VM of Win 2003 and install NB 4.5 5 - Import 4.5 NB Catalog to win 2003 VM NB 6 - Upgrade NB to 5.0 7 - Upgrade NB to 6.0 8 - Install Configure NB 6.0 on Production server (plus patches) 9 - Import VM NB catalog to production server Do you guys have any better options for doing this upgrade? The reason I am using a VM is because I cannot load 3.4 on the new Backup server in order to import the catalog. Thanks, Jerry___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged, proprietary and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution, duplication or other use of this message and/or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Thank you. == This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 REGISTERED OFFICE:- Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS
Carl, I had thought along similar lines but will the application not expect to see a device host in the netbackup configuration with the same name as is referenced in the Media Server setting of the storage unit? Regards, Paul Esson From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 March 2008 13:35 To: Esson, Paul Cc: Esson, Paul; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Greetings Paul, OK, I guess I mis-interpreted your question, apoligies. My initial thoughts are that you could set up a different DNS name for each interface on the media server. Then create a different storage unit that refers to each Media server name, and have that storage unit refer to the interface associated with the name. Then modify the backup policy to use the policy storage unit that refers to the interface you want to use. Just a thought.. In our environment we have multiple media servers and we direct backups to what ever media server we want for a particular policy. My guess, ( and it is only a guess) is that you could do a similar thing using one media server with multiple NIC's. I guess you could open a case with Symantec. Other people may have actual experince with this. Regasrd = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/01/2008 07:02 AM To Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED], veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Folks, My clients won't have multiple NICS only the Media Server because its receiving input from multiple subnets so the use of REQUIRED_INTERFACE on the client won't help. I basically want to send certain clients to certain interfaces/addresses on the Media Server. Doesn't the Master tell the client where to send it's backup data via the policy information i.e. storage unit/device host? In a normal backup scenario nbjm starts the backup using bpcd to start bpbrm on the Media Server. The bpbrm process in turn starts bptm which then uses bpcd to start bpbkar on the client. Its the interaction between bpbkar on the client and bptm on the Media Server that I am trying to control but in my case the Media Server is a different host from the Master. Regards, Paul Esson From: Esson, Paul Sent: Fri 29/02/2008 18:33 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Folks, Is anyone out there using Media Servers with multiple NICs on separate networks? I am trying to understand how to force clients to use specific interfaces on the Media Server when sending backup data or receiving restore data. Do I need to create multiple storage unit and Media Server entries to be able to target the clients through the policy? Or am I on the wrong track altogether? NBU 6.5 Solaris 10 Master and Media Servers - Media Servers have 4 NICs and clients are on multiple subnets. Regards, Paul Esson ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such communications. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS
Paul, Please clarify what you mean by the application I assume Netbackup. Good question. Hadn't thought of that. You may have to make Netbackup think of it as a completely separate media server, and device host all the way through. That way the it knows what path (NIC) to take when running a backup. I need to think about this some more. What version of Netbackup are you using? = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/04/2008 04:12 AM To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Carl, I had thought along similar lines but will the application not expect to see a device host in the netbackup configuration with the same name as is referenced in the Media Server setting of the storage unit? Regards, Paul Esson From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 March 2008 13:35 To: Esson, Paul Cc: Esson, Paul; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Greetings Paul, OK, I guess I mis-interpreted your question, apoligies. My initial thoughts are that you could set up a different DNS name for each interface on the media server. Then create a different storage unit that refers to each Media server name, and have that storage unit refer to the interface associated with the name. Then modify the backup policy to use the policy storage unit that refers to the interface you want to use. Just a thought.. In our environment we have multiple media servers and we direct backups to what ever media server we want for a particular policy. My guess, ( and it is only a guess) is that you could do a similar thing using one media server with multiple NIC's. I guess you could open a case with Symantec. Other people may have actual experince with this. Regasrd = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/01/2008 07:02 AM To Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED], veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Folks, My clients won't have multiple NICS only the Media Server because its receiving input from multiple subnets so the use of REQUIRED_INTERFACE on the client won't help. I basically want to send certain clients to certain interfaces/addresses on the Media Server. Doesn't the Master tell the client where to send it's backup data via the policy information i.e. storage unit/device host? In a normal backup scenario nbjm starts the backup using bpcd to start bpbrm on the Media Server. The bpbrm process in turn starts bptm which then uses bpcd to start bpbkar on the client. Its the interaction between bpbkar on the client and bptm on the Media Server that I am trying to control but in my case the Media Server is a different host from the Master. Regards, Paul Esson From: Esson, Paul Sent: Fri 29/02/2008 18:33 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Folks, Is anyone out there using Media Servers with multiple NICs on separate networks? I am trying to understand how to force clients to use specific interfaces on the Media Server when sending backup data or receiving restore data. Do I need to create multiple storage unit and Media Server entries to be able to target the clients through the policy? Or am I on the wrong track altogether? NBU 6.5 Solaris 10 Master and Media Servers - Media Servers have 4 NICs and clients are on multiple subnets. Regards, Paul Esson ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such
Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS
Carl, It is v6.5 on Solaris 10 and I guess I have some experimentation ahead! Regards, Paul Esson From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 March 2008 13:30 To: Esson, Paul Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Paul, Please clarify what you mean by the application I assume Netbackup. Good question. Hadn't thought of that. You may have to make Netbackup think of it as a completely separate media server, and device host all the way through. That way the it knows what path (NIC) to take when running a backup. I need to think about this some more. What version of Netbackup are you using? = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/04/2008 04:12 AM To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Carl, I had thought along similar lines but will the application not expect to see a device host in the netbackup configuration with the same name as is referenced in the Media Server setting of the storage unit? Regards, Paul Esson From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 March 2008 13:35 To: Esson, Paul Cc: Esson, Paul; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Greetings Paul, OK, I guess I mis-interpreted your question, apoligies. My initial thoughts are that you could set up a different DNS name for each interface on the media server. Then create a different storage unit that refers to each Media server name, and have that storage unit refer to the interface associated with the name. Then modify the backup policy to use the policy storage unit that refers to the interface you want to use. Just a thought.. In our environment we have multiple media servers and we direct backups to what ever media server we want for a particular policy. My guess, ( and it is only a guess) is that you could do a similar thing using one media server with multiple NIC's. I guess you could open a case with Symantec. Other people may have actual experince with this. Regasrd = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/01/2008 07:02 AM To Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED], veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Folks, My clients won't have multiple NICS only the Media Server because its receiving input from multiple subnets so the use of REQUIRED_INTERFACE on the client won't help. I basically want to send certain clients to certain interfaces/addresses on the Media Server. Doesn't the Master tell the client where to send it's backup data via the policy information i.e. storage unit/device host? In a normal backup scenario nbjm starts the backup using bpcd to start bpbrm on the Media Server. The bpbrm process in turn starts bptm which then uses bpcd to start bpbkar on the client. Its the interaction between bpbkar on the client and bptm on the Media Server that I am trying to control but in my case the Media Server is a different host from the Master. Regards, Paul Esson From: Esson, Paul Sent: Fri 29/02/2008 18:33 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Folks, Is anyone out there using Media Servers with multiple NICs on separate networks? I am trying to understand how to force clients to use specific interfaces on the Media Server when sending backup data or receiving restore data. Do I need to create multiple storage unit and Media Server entries to be able to target the clients through the policy? Or am I on the wrong track altogether? NBU 6.5 Solaris 10 Master and Media Servers - Media Servers have 4 NICs and clients are on multiple subnets. Regards, Paul Esson ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution
Re: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5
Id be interested to hear if anyone had a plan of action from any NBU upgrade - I will be doing 5.1 to 6.5.1 Si From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony T. Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:32 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5 Hi all, I am interested in hearing about any of the upgrades that you have done, mainly going from 5.x to 6.5 There seem to be quite a few environments (in my area) that are looking to upgrade, and I am putting together some documentation that asks questions to better prepare for it. I am still learning the ropes of NBU but I have a lot of experience with the server side of things especially Sun and AIX systems with SAN storage. I have the Symantec upgrade guide Upgrading to Veritas Netbackup 6.5 and it appears to be pretty detailed, but it just covers the steps to get from point A to point B. Some of the things I am interested in finding out: - is there anyway to estimate how long step X might take? I realize that there are so many variables that it is not possible to say popluating the EMM will take X hours but if enough people chime in on what their experience was like, maybe we can come up with an average - have there been any show stoppers that were unanticipated? We could all learn from this, knowing what questions to ask up front based on our past...er...challenges. NBU has so many options and is such a broad product that I doubt any two environments are identical. Just sort of brain storming here, looking forward to hearing (seeing?) what you all have to share. If we get a good dialog going I will attempt to compile it into something usable and post it back here. T. -- ) ( ) [_]) This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 REGISTERED OFFICE:- Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS
Yes, appears so, I'd like to know what you find. Regards Carl = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/04/2008 09:53 AM To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Carl, It is v6.5 on Solaris 10 and I guess I have some experimentation ahead! Regards, Paul Esson From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 March 2008 13:30 To: Esson, Paul Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Paul, Please clarify what you mean by the application I assume Netbackup. Good question. Hadn't thought of that. You may have to make Netbackup think of it as a completely separate media server, and device host all the way through. That way the it knows what path (NIC) to take when running a backup. I need to think about this some more. What version of Netbackup are you using? = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/04/2008 04:12 AM To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Carl, I had thought along similar lines but will the application not expect to see a device host in the netbackup configuration with the same name as is referenced in the Media Server setting of the storage unit? Regards, Paul Esson From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 March 2008 13:35 To: Esson, Paul Cc: Esson, Paul; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Greetings Paul, OK, I guess I mis-interpreted your question, apoligies. My initial thoughts are that you could set up a different DNS name for each interface on the media server. Then create a different storage unit that refers to each Media server name, and have that storage unit refer to the interface associated with the name. Then modify the backup policy to use the policy storage unit that refers to the interface you want to use. Just a thought.. In our environment we have multiple media servers and we direct backups to what ever media server we want for a particular policy. My guess, ( and it is only a guess) is that you could do a similar thing using one media server with multiple NIC's. I guess you could open a case with Symantec. Other people may have actual experince with this. Regasrd = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/01/2008 07:02 AM To Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED], veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Folks, My clients won't have multiple NICS only the Media Server because its receiving input from multiple subnets so the use of REQUIRED_INTERFACE on the client won't help. I basically want to send certain clients to certain interfaces/addresses on the Media Server. Doesn't the Master tell the client where to send it's backup data via the policy information i.e. storage unit/device host? In a normal backup scenario nbjm starts the backup using bpcd to start bpbrm on the Media Server. The bpbrm process in turn starts bptm which then uses bpcd to start bpbkar on the client. Its the interaction between bpbkar on the client and bptm on the Media Server that I am trying to control but in my case the Media Server is a different host from the Master. Regards, Paul Esson From: Esson, Paul Sent: Fri 29/02/2008 18:33 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Folks, Is anyone out there using Media Servers with multiple NICs on separate networks? I am trying to understand how to force clients to use specific interfaces on the Media Server when sending backup data or receiving restore data. Do I need to create multiple storage unit and Media Server entries to be able to target the clients through the policy? Or am I on the wrong track altogether? NBU 6.5 Solaris 10 Master and Media Servers - Media Servers have 4 NICs and clients are on multiple subnets. Regards, Paul Esson ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright
[Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5
Hi all, I am interested in hearing about any of the upgrades that you have done, mainly going from 5.x to 6.5 There seem to be quite a few environments (in my area) that are looking to upgrade, and I am putting together some documentation that asks questions to better prepare for it. I am still learning the ropes of NBU but I have a lot of experience with the server side of things especially Sun and AIX systems with SAN storage. I have the Symantec upgrade guide Upgrading to Veritas Netbackup 6.5 and it appears to be pretty detailed, but it just covers the steps to get from point A to point B. Some of the things I am interested in finding out: - is there anyway to estimate how long step X might take? I realize that there are so many variables that it is not possible to say popluating the EMM will take X hours but if enough people chime in on what their experience was like, maybe we can come up with an average - have there been any show stoppers that were unanticipated? We could all learn from this, knowing what questions to ask up front based on our past...er...challenges. NBU has so many options and is such a broad product that I doubt any two environments are identical. Just sort of brain storming here, looking forward to hearing (seeing?) what you all have to share. If we get a good dialog going I will attempt to compile it into something usable and post it back here. T. -- ) ( ) [_]) ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Scott Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the process of a 5.1 to 6.5.1 upgrade in my stagging environment (Windows Master, 4 Linux Media Servers) as of yesterday and today. When finished, I'll be heading east to upgrade the operations there. Upon returning, I'll then upgrade the production system here (Windows Master, 11 Linux Media Servers with ACSLS and a SL8500 Library), so I'll have much to share. One thing I've noticed (with two different 6.5.1 media sets); many read errors. We've found it easier to copy the data to a media server and NFS mount to that location and run the install's from there. At minimum, I'd check the read or copy capability from the CD/DVD drives on the systems you intend to upgrade. -sj Interesting... Do you mean you are finding some of the NBU media to be defective? Or are we talking older drives that are flaking out? T. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5
I'm in the process of a 5.1 to 6.5.1 upgrade in my stagging environment (Windows Master, 4 Linux Media Servers) as of yesterday and today. When finished, I'll be heading east to upgrade the operations there. Upon returning, I'll then upgrade the production system here (Windows Master, 11 Linux Media Servers with ACSLS and a SL8500 Library), so I'll have much to share. One thing I've noticed (with two different 6.5.1 media sets); many read errors. We've found it easier to copy the data to a media server and NFS mount to that location and run the install's from there. At minimum, I'd check the read or copy capability from the CD/DVD drives on the systems you intend to upgrade. -sj WEAVER, Simon (external) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/4/2008 8:35 AM Id be interested to hear if anyone had a plan of action from any NBU upgrade - I will be doing 5.1 to 6.5.1 Si From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony T. Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:32 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5 Hi all, I am interested in hearing about any of the upgrades that you have done, mainly going from 5.x to 6.5 There seem to be quite a few environments (in my area) that are looking to upgrade, and I am putting together some documentation that asks questions to better prepare for it. I am still learning the ropes of NBU but I have a lot of experience with the server side of things especially Sun and AIX systems with SAN storage. I have the Symantec upgrade guide Upgrading to Veritas Netbackup 6.5 and it appears to be pretty detailed, but it just covers the steps to get from point A to point B. Some of the things I am interested in finding out: - is there anyway to estimate how long step X might take? I realize that there are so many variables that it is not possible to say popluating the EMM will take X hours but if enough people chime in on what their experience was like, maybe we can come up with an average - have there been any show stoppers that were unanticipated? We could all learn from this, knowing what questions to ask up front based on our past...er...challenges. NBU has so many options and is such a broad product that I doubt any two environments are identical. Just sort of brain storming here, looking forward to hearing (seeing?) what you all have to share. If we get a good dialog going I will attempt to compile it into something usable and post it back here. T. -- ) ( ) [_]) This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 REGISTERED OFFICE:- Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS
This might be late in the topic but its my 2 cents... We have an enviornment where we have 4 media servers and 1 master server. Each server has at least 3 different nics/networks. We use one network for administrative purposes, another for backup purposes, and a third for production purposes. This setup is the same for all our clients as well. All servers (clients included) use their hosts file (windows unix) to specify which interface they have to talk on when it comes to doing backups/restores. DNS is out the window when it comes to our enterprise backup network. On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 6:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings Paul, OK, I guess I mis-interpreted your question, apoligies. My initial thoughts are that you could set up a different DNS name for each interface on the media server. Then create a different storage unit that refers to each Media server name, and have that storage unit refer to the interface associated with the name. Then modify the backup policy to use the policy storage unit that refers to the interface you want to use. Just a thought.. In our environment we have multiple media servers and we direct backups to what ever media server we want for a particular policy. My guess, ( and it is only a guess) is that you could do a similar thing using one media server with multiple NIC's. I guess you could open a case with Symantec. Other people may have actual experince with this. Regasrd = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/01/2008 07:02 AM To Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED], veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Folks, My clients won't have multiple NICS only the Media Server because its receiving input from multiple subnets so the use of REQUIRED_INTERFACE on the client won't help. I basically want to send certain clients to certain interfaces/addresses on the Media Server. Doesn't the Master tell the client where to send it's backup data via the policy information i.e. storage unit/device host? In a normal backup scenario nbjm starts the backup using bpcd to start bpbrm on the Media Server. The bpbrm process in turn starts bptm which then uses bpcd to start bpbkar on the client. Its the interaction between bpbkar on the client and bptm on the Media Server that I am trying to control but in my case the Media Server is a different host from the Master. Regards, Paul Esson From: Esson, Paul Sent: Fri 29/02/2008 18:33 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS Folks, Is anyone out there using Media Servers with multiple NICs on separate networks? I am trying to understand how to force clients to use specific interfaces on the Media Server when sending backup data or receiving restore data. Do I need to create multiple storage unit and Media Server entries to be able to target the clients through the policy? Or am I on the wrong track altogether? NBU 6.5 Solaris 10 Master and Media Servers - Media Servers have 4 NICs and clients are on multiple subnets. Regards, Paul Esson ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such communications. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS]
You should be able to achieve this without anu configuration changes to NB itself. We use multiple nics and you just have to make sure the routing is correct. When bpcd on the media server connects to the client the client will then connect back to that same ip (assuming that ip is allowed in the bp.conf on the client). So make sure you route traffic out the proper interface and the client will send data back through that interface. You do not need multiple storage units. The storage unit is not tied to the interface the data came in on. Hope this helps. Travis - Original message - Yes, appears so, I'd like to know what you find. Regards Carl ... On 3/4/08, Travis Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing
All, I've got 6.5.1 installed on a Windows 2003 Master and the GUI above the activity monitor doesn't seem to refresh. For example, if I delete a failed job it still shows the machine up top with a red ex. Also when I've got zero activity on the tape drives I still show two disks writing data. Refreshing the screen does not help. Anyone else running into this? Its more of an annoyance than anything else. -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing
Yes, There is a refresh all option when you click on view in the top that will clear it for the moment. Doug Preston -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:39 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing All, I've got 6.5.1 installed on a Windows 2003 Master and the GUI above the activity monitor doesn't seem to refresh. For example, if I delete a failed job it still shows the machine up top with a red ex. Also when I've got zero activity on the tape drives I still show two disks writing data. Refreshing the screen does not help. Anyone else running into this? Its more of an annoyance than anything else. -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5
I upgraded from 5.1 to 6.5 in Oct 2007. It was a very smooth update that worked really well. I did all my prework and made sure that my catalog was in sync. I had no bad tape entries in the database. I also upgraded my WHOLE environment in a 12 hour window. I started with my master server and moved my way thru all 27 Media Servers. They consist of Solaris8, Solaris9, Solaris10, HPUX 11.11, Windows 2003 Server. I use SSO, vaulting, exchange backups, ORACLE RMAN backups. I have a EMC CDL720 (Virtual Tape Library), a L700e with 11 9940B tape drives, and 1 8TB disk staging unit. I really had no issues that were show stoppers. I would say to do all the prework and double and triple check it. As long as your existing environment is not messed up, it will work just great. Kevin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 10:35 AM To: Tony T.; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5 Id be interested to hear if anyone had a plan of action from any NBU upgrade - I will be doing 5.1 to 6.5.1 Si From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony T. Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:32 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5 Hi all, I am interested in hearing about any of the upgrades that you have done, mainly going from 5.x to 6.5 There seem to be quite a few environments (in my area) that are looking to upgrade, and I am putting together some documentation that asks questions to better prepare for it. I am still learning the ropes of NBU but I have a lot of experience with the server side of things especially Sun and AIX systems with SAN storage. I have the Symantec upgrade guide Upgrading to Veritas Netbackup 6.5 and it appears to be pretty detailed, but it just covers the steps to get from point A to point B. Some of the things I am interested in finding out: - is there anyway to estimate how long step X might take? I realize that there are so many variables that it is not possible to say popluating the EMM will take X hours but if enough people chime in on what their experience was like, maybe we can come up with an average - have there been any show stoppers that were unanticipated? We could all learn from this, knowing what questions to ask up front based on our past...er...challenges. NBU has so many options and is such a broad product that I doubt any two environments are identical. Just sort of brain storming here, looking forward to hearing (seeing?) what you all have to share. If we get a good dialog going I will attempt to compile it into something usable and post it back here. T. -- ) ( ) [_]) This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 REGISTERED OFFICE:- Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing
I get this same issue, if you go up to view there is a refresh all option, but we really shouldn't have to hit that to get the activity monitor to refresh for us...other than that I really haven't noticed any other issues with the update, of course, now that I've said something... - Michael Lawler From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:39 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing All, I've got 6.5.1 installed on a Windows 2003 Master and the GUI above the activity monitor doesn't seem to refresh. For example, if I delete a failed job it still shows the machine up top with a red ex. Also when I've got zero activity on the tape drives I still show two disks writing data. Refreshing the screen does not help. Anyone else running into this? Its more of an annoyance than anything else. -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing
I've got 6.5.1 installed on a Windows 2003 Master and the GUI above the activity monitor doesn't seem to refresh. For example, if I delete a failed job it still shows the machine up top with a red ex. Also when I've got zero activity on the tape drives I still show two disks writing data. Refreshing the screen does not help. Anyone else running into this? Its more of an annoyance than anything else. The non-refresh thing seems to be across-the-board in 6.5, at least in the Windows admin console (haven't yet seen it in the java display console). Policies, volumes, pools, ... your changes (say, changing some tapes to another volume pool) take effect but are not displayed. The fix seems to be closing the admin console and reopening it. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing
I have the same problem. You can do Refresh All (under View menu) and it will refresh it. Avi. This message and its attachments are designated solely for the addressee. They contain information that may be privileged and protected by law. Duplication or distribution of this information in any manner is prohibited by law. If you receive this document or information and it is not addressed to you, it must be deleted from your system forthwith. In such case, kindly inform us of this event as soon as practicable.. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu