Re: [Veritas-bu] NB Upgrade 3.4 to 6.5

2008-03-04 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Well if I think if I was in this situation, I may have a new install of
6.x on a new Server and in the event of doing any restores, shutdown the
6.x server, bring up the 3.4.1 NT Server and restore any old Data.
 
I sort of done this before, and apart from disconnecting the new server
from the robot, and attaching to the old Server, it was fine.
 
Another option, is to do a new install of a Server, and import any MONTH
END tapes that you think you may need !
 
Just a thought really
 
Simon



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WOW 

Now that's a big upgrade, hope you aren't planning to do this all in one
day.  Plus what would worry me is that you are doing all those upgrades
on a VM without actually being able to verify if anything even works


Why not just upgrade current system to 4.5, setup the new hardware with
4.5 and import catalog.  Run a full catalog backup, then upgrade to 5.1
and so on. 

I personally have only performed upgrades from Solaris running 5.1  6 
AIX running 6  6.5 (not in production yet, just did in test) 

The 5.1 to 6 can be painful if you don't have a good plan.  NBCC is
critical to a successfully 5.1  6 upgrade. 

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/294900.htm 



Jared M. Seaton
Recovery Administrator
Mylan Inc.
304-554-5926
304-685-1389 (Cell) 



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We are planning the above mentioned upgrade. The catch is that we are
switching hardware and OS as well. 
Currently running 3.4.1 on WinNT 
New Backup server (which will have the same name) is Windows 2003 and
will have 6.5 loaded on it. 
  
These are my proposed steps: 

1 - Create a VM of WIN NT and install NB3.4 

2 - Import NB catalog 

3 - Upgrade VM and NB to 4.5 

4 - Create a VM of Win 2003 and install NB 4.5 

5 - Import 4.5 NB Catalog to win 2003 VM  NB 

6 - Upgrade NB to 5.0 

7 - Upgrade NB to 6.0 

8 - Install  Configure NB 6.0 on Production server (plus patches) 

9 - Import VM NB catalog to production server 

Do you guys have any better options for doing this upgrade? The reason I
am using a VM is because I cannot load 3.4 on the new Backup server in
order to import the catalog. 
  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS

2008-03-04 Thread Esson, Paul
Carl,

 

I had thought along similar lines but will the application not expect to
see a device host in the netbackup configuration with the same name as
is referenced in the Media Server setting of the storage unit?

 

Regards,

 

Paul Esson

 



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Greetings Paul, 

OK, I guess I mis-interpreted your question, apoligies. 

My initial thoughts are that you could set up a different DNS name for
each interface on the media server. 
Then create a different storage unit that refers to each Media server
name, and have that storage unit 
refer to the interface associated with the name.  Then modify the backup
policy to use  the policy storage unit 
that refers to the interface you want to use.  Just a thought.. 

In our environment we have multiple media servers and we direct backups
to what ever media server 
we want for a particular policy.  My guess, ( and it  is only a guess)
is that you could do a similar thing using 
one media server with multiple NIC's.   

I guess you could open a case with Symantec. 

Other people may have actual experince with this. 

Regasrd 


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Folks,

My clients won't have multiple NICS only the Media Server because its
receiving input from multiple subnets so the use of REQUIRED_INTERFACE
on the client won't help.  I basically want to send certain clients to
certain interfaces/addresses on the Media Server.  Doesn't the Master
tell the client where to send it's backup data via the policy
information i.e. storage unit/device host?

In a normal backup scenario nbjm starts the backup using bpcd to start
bpbrm on the Media Server.  The bpbrm process in turn starts bptm which
then uses bpcd to start bpbkar on the client.  Its the interaction
between bpbkar on the client and bptm on the Media Server that I am
trying to control but in my case the Media Server is a different host
from the Master.

Regards,

Paul Esson 



From: Esson, Paul
Sent: Fri 29/02/2008 18:33
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS



Folks,



Is anyone out there using Media Servers with multiple NICs on separate
networks?  I am trying to understand how to force clients to use
specific interfaces on the Media Server when sending backup data or
receiving restore data.  Do I need to create multiple storage unit and
Media Server entries to be able to target the clients through the
policy?  Or am I on the wrong track altogether?



NBU 6.5 Solaris 10 Master and Media Servers - Media Servers have 4 NICs
and clients are on multiple subnets.



Regards,



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS

2008-03-04 Thread ckstehman
Paul,

Please clarify what you mean by the application  I assume Netbackup. 
Good question.  Hadn't thought of that.
You may have to make Netbackup think of it as a completely separate media 
server, and device host all the way
through.  That way the it knows what path (NIC) to take when running a 
backup.  I need to think about this some more. 

What version of Netbackup are you using? 

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Carl,
 
I had thought along similar lines but will the application not expect to 
see a device host in the netbackup configuration with the same name as is 
referenced in the Media Server setting of the storage unit?
 
Regards,
 
Paul Esson
 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS
 

Greetings Paul, 

OK, I guess I mis-interpreted your question, apoligies. 

My initial thoughts are that you could set up a different DNS name for 
each interface on the media server. 
Then create a different storage unit that refers to each Media server 
name, and have that storage unit 
refer to the interface associated with the name.  Then modify the backup 
policy to use  the policy storage unit 
that refers to the interface you want to use.  Just a thought.. 

In our environment we have multiple media servers and we direct backups to 
what ever media server 
we want for a particular policy.  My guess, ( and it  is only a guess) is 
that you could do a similar thing using 
one media server with multiple NIC's.   

I guess you could open a case with Symantec. 

Other people may have actual experince with this. 

Regasrd 


=
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IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS
 


 
 




Folks,

My clients won't have multiple NICS only the Media Server because its 
receiving input from multiple subnets so the use of REQUIRED_INTERFACE on 
the client won't help.  I basically want to send certain clients to 
certain interfaces/addresses on the Media Server.  Doesn't the Master tell 
the client where to send it's backup data via the policy information i.e. 
storage unit/device host?

In a normal backup scenario nbjm starts the backup using bpcd to start 
bpbrm on the Media Server.  The bpbrm process in turn starts bptm which 
then uses bpcd to start bpbkar on the client.  Its the interaction between 
bpbkar on the client and bptm on the Media Server that I am trying to 
control but in my case the Media Server is a different host from the 
Master.

Regards,

Paul Esson 



From: Esson, Paul
Sent: Fri 29/02/2008 18:33
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS



Folks,



Is anyone out there using Media Servers with multiple NICs on separate 
networks?  I am trying to understand how to force clients to use specific 
interfaces on the Media Server when sending backup data or receiving 
restore data.  Do I need to create multiple storage unit and Media Server 
entries to be able to target the clients through the policy?  Or am I on 
the wrong track altogether?



NBU 6.5 Solaris 10 Master and Media Servers - Media Servers have 4 NICs 
and clients are on multiple subnets.



Regards,



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS

2008-03-04 Thread Esson, Paul
Carl,

 

It is v6.5 on Solaris 10 and I guess I have some experimentation ahead!

 

Regards,

 

Paul Esson

 



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Paul, 

Please clarify what you mean by the application  I assume Netbackup.
Good question.  Hadn't thought of that. 
You may have to make Netbackup think of it as a completely separate
media server, and device host all the way 
through.  That way the it knows what path (NIC) to take when running a
backup.  I need to think about this some more.   

What version of Netbackup are you using?   

=
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IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
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Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

03/04/2008 04:12 AM 

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS

 

 

 




Carl, 
  
I had thought along similar lines but will the application not expect to
see a device host in the netbackup configuration with the same name as
is referenced in the Media Server setting of the storage unit? 
  
Regards, 
  
Paul Esson 
  

 




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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS 
  

Greetings Paul, 

OK, I guess I mis-interpreted your question, apoligies. 

My initial thoughts are that you could set up a different DNS name for
each interface on the media server. 
Then create a different storage unit that refers to each Media server
name, and have that storage unit 
refer to the interface associated with the name.  Then modify the backup
policy to use  the policy storage unit 
that refers to the interface you want to use.  Just a thought.. 

In our environment we have multiple media servers and we direct backups
to what ever media server 
we want for a particular policy.  My guess, ( and it  is only a guess)
is that you could do a similar thing using 
one media server with multiple NIC's.   

I guess you could open a case with Symantec. 

Other people may have actual experince with this. 

Regasrd 


=
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IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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03/01/2008 07:02 AM 

 

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Subject

Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS


  

 

  

 





Folks,

My clients won't have multiple NICS only the Media Server because its
receiving input from multiple subnets so the use of REQUIRED_INTERFACE
on the client won't help.  I basically want to send certain clients to
certain interfaces/addresses on the Media Server.  Doesn't the Master
tell the client where to send it's backup data via the policy
information i.e. storage unit/device host?

In a normal backup scenario nbjm starts the backup using bpcd to start
bpbrm on the Media Server.  The bpbrm process in turn starts bptm which
then uses bpcd to start bpbkar on the client.  Its the interaction
between bpbkar on the client and bptm on the Media Server that I am
trying to control but in my case the Media Server is a different host
from the Master.

Regards,

Paul Esson 



From: Esson, Paul
Sent: Fri 29/02/2008 18:33
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS



Folks,



Is anyone out there using Media Servers with multiple NICs on separate
networks?  I am trying to understand how to force clients to use
specific interfaces on the Media Server when sending backup data or
receiving restore data.  Do I need to create multiple storage unit and
Media Server entries to be able to target the clients through the
policy?  Or am I on the wrong track altogether?



NBU 6.5 Solaris 10 Master and Media Servers - Media Servers have 4 NICs
and clients are on multiple subnets.



Regards,



Paul Esson   






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Re: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5

2008-03-04 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Id be interested to hear if anyone had a plan of action from any NBU
upgrade - I will be doing 5.1 to 6.5.1
 
Si



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5


Hi all,

I am interested in hearing about any of the upgrades that you have done,
mainly going from 5.x to 6.5  
There seem to be quite a few environments (in my area) that are looking
to upgrade, and I am putting together some documentation
that asks questions to better prepare for it.  I am still learning the
ropes of NBU but I have a lot of experience with the server side
of things especially Sun and AIX systems with SAN storage.  

I have the Symantec upgrade guide Upgrading to Veritas Netbackup 6.5
and it appears to be pretty detailed, but it just covers the steps to
get from point A to point B.
Some of the things I am interested in finding out:

- is there anyway to estimate how long step X might take?  I realize
that there are so many variables that  it is not possible to say
popluating the EMM will take X hours but
if enough people chime in on what their experience was like, maybe we
can come up with  an average

- have there been any show stoppers that were unanticipated?  We could
all learn from this, knowing what questions to ask up front based on our
past...er...challenges.  NBU has so many options and is such a broad
product that I doubt any two environments are identical. 


Just sort of brain storming here, looking forward to hearing (seeing?)
what you all have to share.  If we get a good dialog going I will
attempt to compile it into something usable
and post it back here. 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS

2008-03-04 Thread ckstehman
Yes, appears so,  I'd like to know what you find.

Regards
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Carl,
 
It is v6.5 on Solaris 10 and I guess I have some experimentation ahead!
 
Regards,
 
Paul Esson
 

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Sent: 04 March 2008 13:30
To: Esson, Paul
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; 
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS
 

Paul, 

Please clarify what you mean by the application  I assume Netbackup. 
Good question.  Hadn't thought of that. 
You may have to make Netbackup think of it as a completely separate media 
server, and device host all the way 
through.  That way the it knows what path (NIC) to take when running a 
backup.  I need to think about this some more.   

What version of Netbackup are you using?   

=
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IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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03/04/2008 04:12 AM 


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Carl, 
  
I had thought along similar lines but will the application not expect to 
see a device host in the netbackup configuration with the same name as is 
referenced in the Media Server setting of the storage unit? 
  
Regards, 
  
Paul Esson 
  
 


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Sent: 03 March 2008 13:35
To: Esson, Paul
Cc: Esson, Paul; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS 
  

Greetings Paul, 

OK, I guess I mis-interpreted your question, apoligies. 

My initial thoughts are that you could set up a different DNS name for 
each interface on the media server. 
Then create a different storage unit that refers to each Media server 
name, and have that storage unit 
refer to the interface associated with the name.  Then modify the backup 
policy to use  the policy storage unit 
that refers to the interface you want to use.  Just a thought.. 

In our environment we have multiple media servers and we direct backups to 
what ever media server 
we want for a particular policy.  My guess, ( and it  is only a guess) is 
that you could do a similar thing using 
one media server with multiple NIC's.   

I guess you could open a case with Symantec. 

Other people may have actual experince with this. 

Regasrd 


=
Carl Stehman
IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Esson, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
03/01/2008 07:02 AM 
 


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veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
cc
 
Subject
Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS

 
 


 
 





Folks,

My clients won't have multiple NICS only the Media Server because its 
receiving input from multiple subnets so the use of REQUIRED_INTERFACE on 
the client won't help.  I basically want to send certain clients to 
certain interfaces/addresses on the Media Server.  Doesn't the Master tell 
the client where to send it's backup data via the policy information i.e. 
storage unit/device host?

In a normal backup scenario nbjm starts the backup using bpcd to start 
bpbrm on the Media Server.  The bpbrm process in turn starts bptm which 
then uses bpcd to start bpbkar on the client.  Its the interaction between 
bpbkar on the client and bptm on the Media Server that I am trying to 
control but in my case the Media Server is a different host from the 
Master.

Regards,

Paul Esson 



From: Esson, Paul
Sent: Fri 29/02/2008 18:33
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS



Folks,



Is anyone out there using Media Servers with multiple NICs on separate 
networks?  I am trying to understand how to force clients to use specific 
interfaces on the Media Server when sending backup data or receiving 
restore data.  Do I need to create multiple storage unit and Media Server 
entries to be able to target the clients through the policy?  Or am I on 
the wrong track altogether?



NBU 6.5 Solaris 10 Master and Media Servers - Media Servers have 4 NICs 
and clients are on multiple subnets.



Regards,



Paul Esson 






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[Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5

2008-03-04 Thread Tony T.
Hi all,

I am interested in hearing about any of the upgrades that you have done,
mainly going from 5.x to 6.5
There seem to be quite a few environments (in my area) that are looking to
upgrade, and I am putting together some documentation
that asks questions to better prepare for it.  I am still learning the ropes
of NBU but I have a lot of experience with the server side
of things especially Sun and AIX systems with SAN storage.

I have the Symantec upgrade guide Upgrading to Veritas Netbackup 6.5 and
it appears to be pretty detailed, but it just covers the steps to get from
point A to point B.
Some of the things I am interested in finding out:

- is there anyway to estimate how long step X might take?  I realize that
there are so many variables that  it is not possible to say  popluating the
EMM will take X hours but
if enough people chime in on what their experience was like, maybe we can
come up with  an average

- have there been any show stoppers that were unanticipated?  We could all
learn from this, knowing what questions to ask up front based on our
past...er...challenges.  NBU has so many options and is such a broad product
that I doubt any two environments are identical.


Just sort of brain storming here, looking forward to hearing (seeing?) what
you all have to share.  If we get a good dialog going I will attempt to
compile it into something usable
and post it back here.

T.



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5

2008-03-04 Thread Tony T.
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Scott Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm in the process of a 5.1 to 6.5.1 upgrade in my stagging environment
 (Windows Master, 4 Linux Media Servers) as of yesterday and today.  When
 finished, I'll be heading east to upgrade the operations there.  Upon
 returning, I'll then upgrade the production system here (Windows Master, 11
 Linux Media Servers with ACSLS and a SL8500 Library), so I'll have much to
 share.

 One thing I've noticed (with two different 6.5.1 media sets); many read
 errors.  We've found it easier to copy the data to a media server and NFS
 mount to that location and run the install's from there.  At minimum, I'd
 check the read or copy capability from the CD/DVD drives on the systems you
 intend to upgrade.

 -sj


Interesting...

Do you mean you are finding some of the NBU media to be defective?  Or are
we talking older drives that are flaking out?

T.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5

2008-03-04 Thread Scott Jacobson
I'm in the process of a 5.1 to 6.5.1 upgrade in my stagging environment 
(Windows Master, 4 Linux Media Servers) as of yesterday and today.  When 
finished, I'll be heading east to upgrade the operations there.  Upon 
returning, I'll then upgrade the production system here (Windows Master, 11 
Linux Media Servers with ACSLS and a SL8500 Library), so I'll have much to 
share.
 
One thing I've noticed (with two different 6.5.1 media sets); many read errors. 
 We've found it easier to copy the data to a media server and NFS mount to that 
location and run the install's from there.  At minimum, I'd check the read or 
copy capability from the CD/DVD drives on the systems you intend to upgrade.
 
-sj

 WEAVER, Simon (external) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/4/2008 8:35 AM 
Id be interested to hear if anyone had a plan of action from any NBU upgrade - 
I will be doing 5.1 to 6.5.1
 
Si

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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:32 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5

Hi all,

I am interested in hearing about any of the upgrades that you have done, mainly 
going from 5.x to 6.5  
There seem to be quite a few environments (in my area) that are looking to 
upgrade, and I am putting together some documentation
that asks questions to better prepare for it.  I am still learning the ropes of 
NBU but I have a lot of experience with the server side
of things especially Sun and AIX systems with SAN storage.  

I have the Symantec upgrade guide Upgrading to Veritas Netbackup 6.5 and it 
appears to be pretty detailed, but it just covers the steps to get from point A 
to point B.
Some of the things I am interested in finding out:

- is there anyway to estimate how long step X might take?  I realize that there 
are so many variables that  it is not possible to say  popluating the EMM will 
take X hours but
if enough people chime in on what their experience was like, maybe we can come 
up with  an average

- have there been any show stoppers that were unanticipated?  We could all 
learn from this, knowing what questions to ask up front based on our 
past...er...challenges.  NBU has so many options and is such a broad product 
that I doubt any two environments are identical. 


Just sort of brain storming here, looking forward to hearing (seeing?) what you 
all have to share.  If we get a good dialog going I will attempt to compile it 
into something usable
and post it back here. 

T.



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS

2008-03-04 Thread Nathan Kippen
This might be late in the topic but its my 2 cents...


We have an enviornment where we have 4 media servers and 1 master server.
Each server has at least 3 different nics/networks.  We use one network for
administrative purposes, another for backup purposes, and a third for
production purposes.  This setup is the same for all our clients as well.
All servers (clients included) use their hosts file (windows  unix) to
specify which interface they have to talk on when it comes to doing
backups/restores.  DNS is out the window when it comes to our  enterprise
backup network.




On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 6:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Greetings Paul,

 OK, I guess I mis-interpreted your question, apoligies.

 My initial thoughts are that you could set up a different DNS name for
 each interface on the media server.
 Then create a different storage unit that refers to each Media server
 name, and have that storage unit
 refer to the interface associated with the name.  Then modify the backup
 policy to use  the policy storage unit
 that refers to the interface you want to use.  Just a thought..

 In our environment we have multiple media servers and we direct backups to
 what ever media server
 we want for a particular policy.  My guess, ( and it  is only a guess) is
 that you could do a similar thing using
 one media server with multiple NIC's.

 I guess you could open a case with Symantec.

 Other people may have actual experince with this.

 Regasrd


 =
 Carl Stehman
 IT Distributed Services Team
 Pepco Holdings, Inc.
 202-331-6619
 Pager 301-765-2703
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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 03/01/2008 07:02 AM
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   Subject
 Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS




 Folks,

 My clients won't have multiple NICS only the Media Server because its
 receiving input from multiple subnets so the use of REQUIRED_INTERFACE on
 the client won't help.  I basically want to send certain clients to certain
 interfaces/addresses on the Media Server.  Doesn't the Master tell the
 client where to send it's backup data via the policy information i.e.
 storage unit/device host?

 In a normal backup scenario nbjm starts the backup using bpcd to start
 bpbrm on the Media Server.  The bpbrm process in turn starts bptm which then
 uses bpcd to start bpbkar on the client.  Its the interaction between bpbkar
 on the client and bptm on the Media Server that I am trying to control but
 in my case the Media Server is a different host from the Master.

 Regards,

 Paul Esson

 

 From: Esson, Paul
 Sent: Fri 29/02/2008 18:33
 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS



 Folks,



 Is anyone out there using Media Servers with multiple NICs on separate
 networks?  I am trying to understand how to force clients to use specific
 interfaces on the Media Server when sending backup data or receiving restore
 data.  Do I need to create multiple storage unit and Media Server entries to
 be able to target the clients through the policy?  Or am I on the wrong
 track altogether?



 NBU 6.5 Solaris 10 Master and Media Servers - Media Servers have 4 NICs
 and clients are on multiple subnets.



 Regards,



 Paul Esson






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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server with multiple NICS]

2008-03-04 Thread Travis Kelley
You should be able to achieve this without anu configuration changes
to NB itself.  We use multiple nics and you just have to make sure the
routing is correct.  When bpcd on the media server connects to the
client the client will then connect back to that same ip (assuming
that ip is allowed in the bp.conf on the client). So make sure you
route traffic out the proper interface and the client will send data
back through that interface.   You do not need multiple storage units.
 The storage unit is not tied to the interface the data came in on.
Hope this helps.

Travis
- Original message -
Yes, appears so, I'd like to know what you find. Regards Carl ...



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[Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing

2008-03-04 Thread Martin, Jonathan
All,
 
I've got 6.5.1 installed on a Windows 2003 Master and the GUI above the
activity monitor doesn't seem to refresh.  For example, if I delete a
failed job it still shows the machine up top with a red ex.  Also when
I've got zero activity on the tape drives I still show two disks writing
data.  Refreshing the screen does not help.  Anyone else running into
this?  Its more of an annoyance than anything else.
 
-Jonathan
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing

2008-03-04 Thread Preston, Douglas L
Yes,  There is a refresh all option when you click on view in the top
that will clear it for the moment.  

Doug Preston


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Jonathan
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing

All,
 
I've got 6.5.1 installed on a Windows 2003 Master and the GUI above the
activity monitor doesn't seem to refresh.  For example, if I delete a
failed job it still shows the machine up top with a red ex.  Also when
I've got zero activity on the tape drives I still show two disks writing
data.  Refreshing the screen does not help.  Anyone else running into
this?  Its more of an annoyance than anything else.
 
-Jonathan

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5

2008-03-04 Thread Kevin Whittaker
I upgraded from 5.1 to 6.5 in Oct 2007.  It was a very smooth update
that worked really well.
 
I did all my prework and made sure that my catalog was in sync.  I had
no bad tape entries in the database.
 
I also upgraded my WHOLE environment in a 12 hour window.  I started
with my master server and moved my way thru all 27 Media Servers.  They
consist of Solaris8, Solaris9, Solaris10, HPUX 11.11,  Windows 2003
Server.
 
I use SSO, vaulting, exchange backups,  ORACLE RMAN backups.
 
I have a EMC CDL720 (Virtual Tape Library), a L700e with 11 9940B tape
drives, and 1 8TB disk staging unit.
 
I really had no issues that were show stoppers.  I would say to do all
the prework and double and triple check it.
 
As long as your existing environment is not messed up, it will work just
great.
 
Kevin
 



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Simon (external)
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 10:35 AM
To: Tony T.; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x -
6.5


Id be interested to hear if anyone had a plan of action from any NBU
upgrade - I will be doing 5.1 to 6.5.1
 
Si



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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:32 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Lets hear about your upgrade experience! 5.x - 6.5


Hi all,

I am interested in hearing about any of the upgrades that you have done,
mainly going from 5.x to 6.5  
There seem to be quite a few environments (in my area) that are looking
to upgrade, and I am putting together some documentation
that asks questions to better prepare for it.  I am still learning the
ropes of NBU but I have a lot of experience with the server side
of things especially Sun and AIX systems with SAN storage.  

I have the Symantec upgrade guide Upgrading to Veritas Netbackup 6.5
and it appears to be pretty detailed, but it just covers the steps to
get from point A to point B.
Some of the things I am interested in finding out:

- is there anyway to estimate how long step X might take?  I realize
that there are so many variables that  it is not possible to say
popluating the EMM will take X hours but
if enough people chime in on what their experience was like, maybe we
can come up with  an average

- have there been any show stoppers that were unanticipated?  We could
all learn from this, knowing what questions to ask up front based on our
past...er...challenges.  NBU has so many options and is such a broad
product that I doubt any two environments are identical. 


Just sort of brain storming here, looking forward to hearing (seeing?)
what you all have to share.  If we get a good dialog going I will
attempt to compile it into something usable
and post it back here. 

T.



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Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing

2008-03-04 Thread Lawler, Michael C.
I get this same issue, if you go up to view there is a refresh all
option, but we really shouldn't have to hit that to get the activity
monitor to refresh for us...other than that I really haven't noticed any
other issues with the update, of course, now that I've said something...

 

 

- Michael Lawler

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing

 

All,

 

I've got 6.5.1 installed on a Windows 2003 Master and the GUI above the
activity monitor doesn't seem to refresh.  For example, if I delete a
failed job it still shows the machine up top with a red ex.  Also when
I've got zero activity on the tape drives I still show two disks writing
data.  Refreshing the screen does not help.  Anyone else running into
this?  Its more of an annoyance than anything else.

 

-Jonathan

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing

2008-03-04 Thread bob944
 I've got 6.5.1 installed on a Windows 2003 Master and the GUI 
 above the
 activity monitor doesn't seem to refresh.  For example, if I delete a
 failed job it still shows the machine up top with a red ex.  Also when
 I've got zero activity on the tape drives I still show two 
 disks writing
 data.  Refreshing the screen does not help.  Anyone else running into
 this?  Its more of an annoyance than anything else.

The non-refresh thing seems to be across-the-board in 6.5, at least in
the Windows admin console (haven't yet seen it in the java display
console).  Policies, volumes, pools, ... your changes (say, changing
some tapes to another volume pool) take effect but are not displayed.
The fix seems to be closing the admin console and reopening it.  


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[Veritas-bu] NB 6.5.1 Windows Gui Not Refreshing

2008-03-04 Thread avi . barsheshet
I have the same problem. 
You can do Refresh All (under View menu) and it will refresh it.

Avi.


 
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