Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup of unix client behind firewall
Thanks guys Our Netbackup verision is 6.5.4. There should be open for port 13724 in the firewall. This seems to be confirmed by the fact that file backup restore works when initiated from the master server. Bplist also gives status 23 and bpclntcmd only say expecting response from server master As the client is in different subnets I'm starting suspect a name resolving issue somewhere Regards Michael 2010/6/12 Wayne T Smith wtsm...@maine.edu The answer depends on your version of NetBackup. For v6.5 (and maybe 6.0 and 7.0), you don't need any as the communications defaults to vnet (port 13724). Open that port at client and server(s) and all should be well. Earlier versions required setting the bpcd connect-back port to vnetd for the client under the master server client attributes to use vnetd and more ports are used. Opening 13720-13783 on client and server should be more than sufficient for v5.1 and maybe 4.5. Cheers, Wayne On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Michael Graff Andersen mia...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Can you help me with which connect options there should be in bp.conf on a unix client behind a firewall Have tried to do after the description in the manual, but not with much luck. We keep getting a status 23 cannot connect on socket We have to run oracle backup on this client Regards Michael ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backup Exec NetBackup Combination
Dear milisers, Is it possible to backup using Backup Exec (version 12) and then restore it using NetBackup (version 6.5)? Is it just a matter of doing inventory catalog at the NetBackup side? Thank you for helping. -- Best Regards, Adrian Soetanto ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Exec NetBackup Combination
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Adrian Soetanto adrian.soeta...@bentoel.co.id wrote: Is it possible to backup using Backup Exec (version 12) and then restore it using NetBackup (version 6.5)? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/295433.htm .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup of unix client behind firewall
It turned out that my suspicion about the name resolving was correct After removing an wrong dns entry and making sure the client name was in the same case on both the client the master, boty bplist and the oracle backup work Regards Michael 2010/6/14 Michael Graff Andersen mia...@gmail.com Thanks guys Our Netbackup verision is 6.5.4. There should be open for port 13724 in the firewall. This seems to be confirmed by the fact that file backup restore works when initiated from the master server. Bplist also gives status 23 and bpclntcmd only say expecting response from server master As the client is in different subnets I'm starting suspect a name resolving issue somewhere Regards Michael 2010/6/12 Wayne T Smith wtsm...@maine.edu The answer depends on your version of NetBackup. For v6.5 (and maybe 6.0 and 7.0), you don't need any as the communications defaults to vnet (port 13724). Open that port at client and server(s) and all should be well. Earlier versions required setting the bpcd connect-back port to vnetd for the client under the master server client attributes to use vnetd and more ports are used. Opening 13720-13783 on client and server should be more than sufficient for v5.1 and maybe 4.5. Cheers, Wayne On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Michael Graff Andersen mia...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Can you help me with which connect options there should be in bp.conf on a unix client behind a firewall Have tried to do after the description in the manual, but not with much luck. We keep getting a status 23 cannot connect on socket We have to run oracle backup on this client Regards Michael ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] ACS_QUERY_TIMEOUT or acsd timeout values
Hello, We are running NBU 6.5.5 in combination with a Fujitsu VTL, configured in ACS emulation mode. I am getting recurrent Operator/EMM drive DOWN'ED messages for some tape operations, and they are always occuring EXACTLY 25 minutes after the mount request. I was wondering if there are parameters I can configure for ACSD, more specifically the amount of time it should wait for a mount request. I already strings'd the acsd binary and came up with the above parameter, but I cannot find any info on the default of this value, so I do not know wether it can relate to my 25 minute timeout seen in the logs.. Anybody have an idea ? Thanks -- Sebastian Schönwetter Zaakvoerder Open2 BVBA / Ninov-IT Leopoldlaan 114 B-9400 Ninove Phone: +32 2 460 39 86 Fax: +32 2 460 88 49 Mobile: +32 485 844 368 Web : www.open2.be TVA-BTW BE 0866 285 026 RPM Bruxelles RPR Brussel ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Determining date of media freeze
Does anyone happen to know if there's a way of determining the date media was frozen? Thanks Mike blocked::http://www.justgiving.com/CoastCakesCastles2010 ** This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the above-named person(s). It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. Any opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the company. If you receive it in error please delete it, inform the sender and do not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance upon it. We may monitor all incoming and outgoing emails in line with current legislation. We have taken steps to ensure that this email and attachments are free from any virus, but it remains your responsibility to ensure that viruses do not adversely affect you. Orange Personal Communications Services Limited is an English company (registered no. 2178917) with its address at St James Court, Great Park Road, Almondsbury Park, Bradley Stoke, Bristol BS32 4QJ. Orange Retail Limited is an English company (registered no. 2439104) with its address at St James Court, Great Park Road, Almondsbury Park, Bradley Stoke, Bristol BS32 4QJ. Orange Home UK Limited is an English company (registered no. 3014367) with its address at St James Court, Great Park Road, Almondsbury Park, Bradley Stoke, Bristol BS32 4QJ. . ** * This message and any attachments (the message) are confidential and intended solely for the addressees. Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited. Messages are susceptible to alteration. France Telecom Group shall not be liable for the message if altered, changed or falsified. If you are not the intended addressee of this message, please cancel it immediately and inform the sender. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining date of media freeze
bperror -l -media -X -d 169200 -e 127652 | grep -i freez that the large number in the first column: bpdbm -ctime large number and that will tell you the date. Regards, Patrick Whelan NetBackup Specialist Wholesale Markets and Treasury Trading Lloyds Banking Group Desk: +44 (0) 207 158 6123 Loc: OBS 2C-132 P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of michael.ket...@orange-ftgroup.com Sent: 14 June 2010 14:50 To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Determining date of media freeze Does anyone happen to know if there's a way of determining the date media was frozen? Thanks Mike blocked::http://www.justgiving.com/CoastCakesCastles2010 ** This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the above-named person(s). It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. Any opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the company. If you receive it in error please delete it, inform the sender and do not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance upon it. We may monitor all incoming and outgoing emails in line with current legislation. We have taken steps to ensure that this email and attachments are free from any virus, but it remains your responsibility to ensure that viruses do not adversely affect you. Orange Personal Communications Services Limited is an English company (registered no. 2178917) with its address at St James Court, Great Park Road, Almondsbury Park, Bradley Stoke, Bristol BS32 4QJ. Orange Retail Limited is an English company (registered no. 2439104) with its address at St James Court, Great Park Road, Almondsbury Park, Bradley Stoke, Bristol BS32 4QJ. Orange Home UK Limited is an English company (registered no. 3014367) with its address at St James Court, Great Park Road, Almondsbury Park, Bradley Stoke, Bristol BS32 4QJ. . ** * This message and any attachments (the message) are confidential and intended solely for the addressees. Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited. Messages are susceptible to alteration. France Telecom Group shall not be liable for the message if altered, changed or falsified. If you are not the intended addressee of this message, please cancel it immediately and inform the sender. This e-mail is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland, number 95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds TSB Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales, number 2065. Telephone: 020 7626 1500. Lloyds TSB Scotland plc. Registered Office: Henry Duncan House, 120 George Street, Edinburgh EH2 4LH. Registered in Scotland, number 95237. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Cheltenham Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales, number 2299428. Telephone: 01452 372372. Cheltenham Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds TSB Bank plc. Lloyds TSB Bank plc, Lloyds TSB Scotland plc and Cheltenham Gloucester plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email _ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup of unix client behind firewall
Could me like what I go through My normaly is mydomain.mycompany.com But we have service networks so some servers get mydomainservice.mycompany.com Which they do not always set dns setup right. They use to make two entries, one for each domain. I had to talk to them to make true aliais so that forward and reverse would work. A true alias: Nslookup mycomputer Would bring back Mycomputer.mydomain.mycompany.com Ipaddress Alias: mycomputer.mydomainservice.mycompany.com When they did two entries it does a round robin. Nslookup mycomputer Would bring back mycomputer.mydomin.mycompany.com Do it again Nslookup mycomputer Would bring back mycomputer.mydomainservice.mycompany.com So a suggestion is to check if there is more than one entry for the server. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Graff Andersen Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:04 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup of unix client behind firewall Thanks guys Our Netbackup verision is 6.5.4. There should be open for port 13724 in the firewall. This seems to be confirmed by the fact that file backup restore works when initiated from the master server. Bplist also gives status 23 and bpclntcmd only say expecting response from server master As the client is in different subnets I'm starting suspect a name resolving issue somewhere Regards Michael 2010/6/12 Wayne T Smith wtsm...@maine.edumailto:wtsm...@maine.edu The answer depends on your version of NetBackup. For v6.5 (and maybe 6.0 and 7.0), you don't need any as the communications defaults to vnet (port 13724). Open that port at client and server(s) and all should be well. Earlier versions required setting the bpcd connect-back port to vnetd for the client under the master server client attributes to use vnetd and more ports are used. Opening 13720-13783 on client and server should be more than sufficient for v5.1 and maybe 4.5. Cheers, Wayne On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Michael Graff Andersen mia...@gmail.commailto:mia...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Can you help me with which connect options there should be in bp.conf on a unix client behind a firewall Have tried to do after the description in the manual, but not with much luck. We keep getting a status 23 cannot connect on socket We have to run oracle backup on this client Regards Michael ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Determining date of media freeze
Look in the all logs, it shows when it freezes tapes. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of michael.ket...@orange-ftgroup.com Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:50 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Determining date of media freeze Does anyone happen to know if there's a way of determining the date media was frozen? Thanks Mike ** This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the above-named person(s). It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. Any opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the company. If you receive it in error please delete it, inform the sender and do not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance upon it. We may monitor all incoming and outgoing emails in line with current legislation. We have taken steps to ensure that this email and attachments are free from any virus, but it remains your responsibility to ensure that viruses do not adversely affect you. Orange Personal Communications Services Limited is an English company (registered no. 2178917) with its address at St James Court, Great Park Road, Almondsbury Park, Bradley Stoke, Bristol BS32 4QJ. Orange Retail Limited is an English company (registered no. 2439104) with its address at St James Court, Great Park Road, Almondsbury Park, Bradley Stoke, Bristol BS32 4QJ. Orange Home UK Limited is an English company (registered no. 3014367) with its address at St James Court, Great Park Road, Almondsbury Park, Bradley Stoke, Bristol BS32 4QJ. . ** * This message and any attachments (the message) are confidential and intended solely for the addressees. Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited. Messages are susceptible to alteration. France Telecom Group shall not be liable for the message if altered, changed or falsified. If you are not the intended addressee of this message, please cancel it immediately and inform the sender. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] OpsCenter agent on master - remove with care!
Please note this potential issue with OpsCenter! From the manual: If you have NOM you need to upgrade to Ops Center, but if you do that and your master server is still on 6.5.x you will need to install and config an agent to monitor the 6.5.x server. But if you upgrade right away you don't need the agent. If you uninstall the OpsCenter agent on your master server - IT REMOVES PBX. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Anyone with Recent CommVault Experience?
I was very fluent with NBU versions 3.x-5.1. I've been a CommVault user since 6.1, we're running 8.0, right now. Can anyone on the list compare their experiences with both products? I'm especially interesting in hearing from folks who like the current version of NBU over CV v.8. Thanks , Steve ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories
I have Netbackup 6.5.5, windows master server, windows 2003 client. Here is the set up 2 cluster nodes we will call a b. A has a SAN share of F B has 2 SAN Shares labeled drive E and G. E:\blah\ and G:\blah2\ are set up as shares in the clusters. For some reason when I do backups I'm getting a successful result however it is only backing up the top level directory on the cluster shares (blah and blah2). I have Cross point mounts checked already and it still isn't working. Also this has just started happening about 6 months ago. Nothing with the server has changed and it was working before then. +-- |This was sent by steve.s...@compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories
What do your client list and backup selections look like? Why did you select cross mount points, are you using NTFS mount points? -Jonathan -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of zimmy00 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:13 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories I have Netbackup 6.5.5, windows master server, windows 2003 client. Here is the set up 2 cluster nodes we will call a b. A has a SAN share of F B has 2 SAN Shares labeled drive E and G. E:\blah\ and G:\blah2\ are set up as shares in the clusters. For some reason when I do backups I'm getting a successful result however it is only backing up the top level directory on the cluster shares (blah and blah2). I have Cross point mounts checked already and it still isn't working. Also this has just started happening about 6 months ago. Nothing with the server has changed and it was working before then. +-- |This was sent by steve.s...@compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories
Are you sure they're clustered drives on the virtual host rather than local drives that just happen to be mounted on the active physical node of the cluster? Perhaps it stopped working due to a failover 6 months ago when somehow they got remounted on the physical node rather than the virtual host? -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:17 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories What do your client list and backup selections look like? Why did you select cross mount points, are you using NTFS mount points? -Jonathan -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of zimmy00 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:13 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories I have Netbackup 6.5.5, windows master server, windows 2003 client. Here is the set up 2 cluster nodes we will call a b. A has a SAN share of F B has 2 SAN Shares labeled drive E and G. E:\blah\ and G:\blah2\ are set up as shares in the clusters. For some reason when I do backups I'm getting a successful result however it is only backing up the top level directory on the cluster shares (blah and blah2). I have Cross point mounts checked already and it still isn't working. Also this has just started happening about 6 months ago. Nothing with the server has changed and it was working before then. +-- |This was sent by steve.s...@compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories
I am backing them up based on the root drive letter and the host as the virtual host the drive is assigned to. +-- |This was sent by steve.s...@compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories
I used the Cross mount points in an attempt to fix this based on a symantec article. Martin, Jonathan wrote: What do your client list and backup selections look like? Why did you select cross mount points, are you using NTFS mount points? -Jonathan -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of zimmy00 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:13 PM To: VERITAS-BU at MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories I have Netbackup 6.5.5, windows master server, windows 2003 client. Here is the set up 2 cluster nodes we will call a b. A has a SAN share of F B has 2 SAN Shares labeled drive E and G. E:\blah\ and G:\blah2\ are set up as shares in the clusters. For some reason when I do backups I'm getting a successful result however it is only backing up the top level directory on the cluster shares (blah and blah2). I have Cross point mounts checked already and it still isn't working. Also this has just started happening about 6 months ago. Nothing with the server has changed and it was working before then. +-- |This was sent by steve.soto at compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to abuse at backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu +-- |This was sent by steve.s...@compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories
Right - my point was it may be empty directories because its not really on the virtual but rather on the underlying physical node. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of zimmy00 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:28 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories I am backing them up based on the root drive letter and the host as the virtual host the drive is assigned to. +-- |This was sent by steve.s...@compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories
Ugh...ok I forgot that this isn't on a san anymore. They are physical drives now. But that has been that way for a while and the problem just started 6 months ago. Also, sometimes if I mess around with the client (failover / reboot clusters) I can get it to do 1 good backup. Lightner, Jeff wrote: Are you sure they're clustered drives on the virtual host rather than local drives that just happen to be mounted on the active physical node of the cluster? Perhaps it stopped working due to a failover 6 months ago when somehow they got remounted on the physical node rather than the virtual host? -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:17 PM To: VERITAS-BU at MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories What do your client list and backup selections look like? Why did you select cross mount points, are you using NTFS mount points? -Jonathan -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of zimmy00 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:13 PM To: VERITAS-BU at MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories I have Netbackup 6.5.5, windows master server, windows 2003 client. Here is the set up 2 cluster nodes we will call a b. A has a SAN share of F B has 2 SAN Shares labeled drive E and G. E:\blah\ and G:\blah2\ are set up as shares in the clusters. For some reason when I do backups I'm getting a successful result however it is only backing up the top level directory on the cluster shares (blah and blah2). I have Cross point mounts checked already and it still isn't working. Also this has just started happening about 6 months ago. Nothing with the server has changed and it was working before then. +-- |This was sent by steve.soto at compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to abuse at backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu +-- |This was sent by steve.s...@compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Anyone with Recent CommVault Experience?
I just changed employers and am now managing an existing NBU 6.5 deployment which I will be upgrading to NBU 7. I had built the backup solution at my previous employer on CommVault 5.0 and upgraded it to Simpana v7. Had I not switched employers, I would have upgraded to version 8. As far as I can tell, the products have very similar feature sets, but very different user interfaces. Commvault has a much cleaner approach when it comes to backup job scheduling, at least in my opinion. Unless Commvault had changed their licensing structure, they might be trailing Symantec in terms of cost. Netbackup can now be licensed on a capacity basis rather than a per application and client basis. That has the potential to create some cost savings for many. I am looking forward the the client side and media server deduplication features in NBU 7. Reporting was much better in Simpana than Netbackup (at least comparing Simpana 7 to NBU 6.5). I definitely would not call myself an expert in backup (yet) as that was one of a dozen repsonsibilities I had at my old employer. With my current company, I will be focused on just backup for the foreseeable future. HTH, Ken +-- |This was sent by kenneth.blankens...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories
I tried using the physical node name instead of the virtual and it has the same problems. It also seems that the only problem directories are the larger ones that are shared out via the clusters. I don't know if that is relavent. Lightner, Jeff wrote: Right - my point was it may be empty directories because its not really on the virtual but rather on the underlying physical node. +-- |This was sent by steve.s...@compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories
The question comes down to just how are you backing up the cluster. There are 4 server names involved here. A is a physical server - with physical drive C B is a physical server - with physical drive C Then you have VA - a virtual server - you have some resources assigned to this virtual server name. You most likely also have VB - a virtual server - of you which you may or may not have resources assigned to. Resources - these are the drives that can fail over from one to server to another. These look to be Drives E and G. So if drives E and G normally are on B and you set up a policy to backup B:E\ and B:G\ everything is good until it fails over and E and G are now on A. ( which may be why when you boot and mess with it, it eventually lands back on B and the backups work. What you need to do is find the VA or VB name of the virtual server that the resources E and G belong to. Then Set up a policy to backup VA:E\ and VA:G\ While keeping a policy to backup A:C\ and B:C\ -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of zimmy00 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:35 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories Ugh...ok I forgot that this isn't on a san anymore. They are physical drives now. But that has been that way for a while and the problem just started 6 months ago. Also, sometimes if I mess around with the client (failover / reboot clusters) I can get it to do 1 good backup. Lightner, Jeff wrote: Are you sure they're clustered drives on the virtual host rather than local drives that just happen to be mounted on the active physical node of the cluster? Perhaps it stopped working due to a failover 6 months ago when somehow they got remounted on the physical node rather than the virtual host? -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:17 PM To: VERITAS-BU at MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories What do your client list and backup selections look like? Why did you select cross mount points, are you using NTFS mount points? -Jonathan -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of zimmy00 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:13 PM To: VERITAS-BU at MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories I have Netbackup 6.5.5, windows master server, windows 2003 client. Here is the set up 2 cluster nodes we will call a b. A has a SAN share of F B has 2 SAN Shares labeled drive E and G. E:\blah\ and G:\blah2\ are set up as shares in the clusters. For some reason when I do backups I'm getting a successful result however it is only backing up the top level directory on the cluster shares (blah and blah2). I have Cross point mounts checked already and it still isn't working. Also this has just started happening about 6 months ago. Nothing with the server has changed and it was working before then. +-- |This was sent by steve.soto at compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to abuse at backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu +-- |This was sent by steve.s...@compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com.
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories
Can you please run mountvol /L and post the output? -Jonathan -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of zimmy00 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:43 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories I tried using the physical node name instead of the virtual and it has the same problems. It also seems that the only problem directories are the larger ones that are shared out via the clusters. I don't know if that is relavent. Lightner, Jeff wrote: Right - my point was it may be empty directories because its not really on the virtual but rather on the underlying physical node. +-- |This was sent by steve.s...@compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backups showing up as empty directories
That is exactly correct and also exactly how it is configured already. :\ Note that the other virtual server has other resources assigned to it that have no problems what so ever. +-- |This was sent by steve.s...@compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NDMP and Millions of Files
We have a NetApp filer that has a few TB of data made up largely of millions of small files (about 30 million or so) and we are using several NDMP policies to back up this data. The two main problems are length of time it takes to backup (we usually have 2-3 backups running all day every day) and when there is a maintenance or other event in the NBU domain, we have to kill the job, resulting in having to start all over (no checkpoints). For those of you who have faced a similar situation, how are you backing up this data? Current thoughts are moving away from NDMP and going with just snapshots and then getting the snap offsite either by backing it up or replicating it. We've also thought about backing it up via NFS, but that will probably be slower, though we would get checkpoints. I appreciate any other suggestions anyone has. Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP, VCS ▪ Sr. Storage Engineer ▪ SunGard Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 281-584-4693 Keeping People and Information Connected® ▪ http://availability.sungard.com/ P Think before you print CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and Millions of Files
We’ve been testing backup methods for millions of small files on NAS and DAS storage for YEARS here. Without exception, the best backup method has been NFS mount via a “proxy” client. I don’t manage the NetApp Storage, but we saw an increase from 10MB/sec to 17-19MB/sec when switching from NDMP to NFS on a FAS2040. I’ve heard there is a FAS 31XX coming to replace the FAS2040 and hopefully that gives us better performance still. Using NFS gets you checkpoints, but more importantly for us, exclusions. Our filers have something like 70-100 million files, but we only backup 45-50 million of them. Off the top of my head, my best test runs per device are: Apple xRaid DAS (unknown model) – 30MB/sec via 2 streams NFS Dell MD3000 DAS (RedHat 5) – 30MB/sec via single stream Sun Unified Storage System 7210 – 25-29MB/sec via 16 streams via NFS NetApp FAS2040 – 19MB/sec Sun StorageTek 5310 – 8MB/sec via single stream NFS We’re currently using the Dell MD3000 / Redhat 5 rig above to test Linux Flashbackup, but so far we’re only running 24MB/sec. The most important lesson I’ve learned converting NDMP to NFS is to test thoroughly. Every filer is different, and it can take weeks to find a “sweet spot” between number or streams and client configuration. Good luck! -Jonathan From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of rusty.ma...@sungard.com Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:25 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and Millions of Files We have a NetApp filer that has a few TB of data made up largely of millions of small files (about 30 million or so) and we are using several NDMP policies to back up this data. The two main problems are length of time it takes to backup (we usually have 2-3 backups running all day every day) and when there is a maintenance or other event in the NBU domain, we have to kill the job, resulting in having to start all over (no checkpoints). For those of you who have faced a similar situation, how are you backing up this data? Current thoughts are moving away from NDMP and going with just snapshots and then getting the snap offsite either by backing it up or replicating it. We've also thought about backing it up via NFS, but that will probably be slower, though we would get checkpoints. I appreciate any other suggestions anyone has. Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP, VCS ▪ Sr. Storage Engineer ▪ SunGard Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 281-584-4693 Keeping People and Information Connected® ▪ http://availability.sungard.com/ http://availability.sungard.com/ P Think before you print CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and Millions of Files
Rusty, If you have a way to use Snapvault to backup to another location, I would use it. We have a number of file systems like what you have. I tried NDMP over TCP and NFS backups using dedicated snapshots mounted on a client. Both used a dedicated 10G network. We basically overran our 6030 filer. We could have jumped through a lot of hoops and split backups over multiple weekends, etc, but we decided it wasn't worth it. I haven't tried Flash Backup for a while but it didn't really buy us much on what we tried to do with it. It may work better now. We backup everything (~200 TB) to NearStores in another building. We use SnapVault instead of SnapMirror. We can still revert our destination volumes to primary r/w file systems if we need to. We don't have the requirement to send tapes off site. If you do, you could still make the tapes from your secondary filer. Using NFS to tape will give you check points and you can run multiple streams to each tape drive. If you are not hitting the filer throughput limits this may work for you. Jeff On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:24 PM, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote: We have a NetApp filer that has a few TB of data made up largely of millions of small files (about 30 million or so) and we are using several NDMP policies to back up this data. The two main problems are length of time it takes to backup (we usually have 2-3 backups running all day every day) and when there is a maintenance or other event in the NBU domain, we have to kill the job, resulting in having to start all over (no checkpoints). For those of you who have faced a similar situation, how are you backing up this data? Current thoughts are moving away from NDMP and going with just snapshots and then getting the snap offsite either by backing it up or replicating it. We've also thought about backing it up via NFS, but that will probably be slower, though we would get checkpoints. I appreciate any other suggestions anyone has. Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP, VCS ▪ Sr. Storage Engineer ▪ SunGard Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 281-584-4693 Keeping People and Information Connected® ▪ http://availability.sungard.com/ P Think before you print CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - veritas...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- Jeff Cleverley Unix Systems Administrator 4380 Ziegler Road Fort Collins, Colorado 80525 970-288-4611 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
