Re: [Veritas-bu] Is Netbackup SQL Server Agent requiredtouse Netbackup to b
We use the GUI Agent. We have SQL DBA's but I prefer online backups. Tough, reliable, proven. And to get the SQL DBA to fully understand how the process works, they need to be involved and make them aware. Saves dumping to disk as alot of our DB's are large. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:24 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Is Netbackup SQL Server Agent requiredtouse Netbackup to b We use the MS-SQL Client here. We don't really have dedicated SQL DBAs, we have windows admins with sql training and Oracle DBAs who would rather manage Oracle. The text files offer simple configuration, and restores are a breeze with the GUI. I guess for the limited amount of MS-SQL we do here it fits the bill. As everyone else says, if we had a dedicated SQL DBA I'm sure he/she would rather do their own thing. -Jonathan -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:16 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Is Netbackup SQL Server Agent required touse Netbackup to b We don't use it either. SQL admins setup the backups to go to disk - all are to occur at the same time on all the servers Then I have a policy to backup the SQL servers that kicks off at 2 am. This gets the server Plus the backups to disk that occurred earlier in the night. Now the SQL admins get to be in charge of backups AND restores (meaning I don't have to be involved) unless they need a copy older then what they have on disk. As they keep more the one copy on disk. I think I have only done a restore once for them. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of tsimerson Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:24 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is Netbackup SQL Server Agent required to use Netbackup to b Kind of depends on your DBA's [Wink] At a previous position, all of the DBA's (Oracle, SQL and Informix) hated the idea of anything communicating with their database that they had no control over (that and they were cheap). We worked with the SQL DBA to make use of user directed backups. He basically wrote a script to dump the data out of the SQL database and then call bpbackup with the appropriate arguments to get the data from local disk to tape. Yes, there are lots of admin headaches with this but it worked well enough for our purposes. He would only complain about twice a month about tape drive contention and such. Let me know if you would like more details on how to setup the policy and what command line arguments we used. Tom Simerson Sr. Systems Engineer Sigma Solutions, Inc. +-- |This was sent by t...@tjsimerson.org via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Is Netbackup SQL Server Agent requiredtouse Netbackup to b
From what I'm reading, I'm thinking the NBU SQL Agent will work fine while interfacing with SAP SQL databases, and at the same time will allow us to maintain backup control (and SAP server disk space) by using SAP-scheduled backups going to NBU Disk Storage Groups, then to tape from there. All good info, thanks !!! -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 3:45 AM To: Martin, Jonathan; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Is Netbackup SQL Server Agent requiredtouse Netbackup to b We use the GUI Agent. We have SQL DBA's but I prefer online backups. Tough, reliable, proven. And to get the SQL DBA to fully understand how the process works, they need to be involved and make them aware. Saves dumping to disk as alot of our DB's are large. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:24 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Is Netbackup SQL Server Agent requiredtouse Netbackup to b We use the MS-SQL Client here. We don't really have dedicated SQL DBAs, we have windows admins with sql training and Oracle DBAs who would rather manage Oracle. The text files offer simple configuration, and restores are a breeze with the GUI. I guess for the limited amount of MS-SQL we do here it fits the bill. As everyone else says, if we had a dedicated SQL DBA I'm sure he/she would rather do their own thing. -Jonathan -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:16 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Is Netbackup SQL Server Agent required touse Netbackup to b We don't use it either. SQL admins setup the backups to go to disk - all are to occur at the same time on all the servers Then I have a policy to backup the SQL servers that kicks off at 2 am. This gets the server Plus the backups to disk that occurred earlier in the night. Now the SQL admins get to be in charge of backups AND restores (meaning I don't have to be involved) unless they need a copy older then what they have on disk. As they keep more the one copy on disk. I think I have only done a restore once for them. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of tsimerson Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:24 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is Netbackup SQL Server Agent required to use Netbackup to b Kind of depends on your DBA's [Wink] At a previous position, all of the DBA's (Oracle, SQL and Informix) hated the idea of anything communicating with their database that they had no control over (that and they were cheap). We worked with the SQL DBA to make use of user directed backups. He basically wrote a script to dump the data out of the SQL database and then call bpbackup with the appropriate arguments to get the data from local disk to tape. Yes, there are lots of admin headaches with this but it worked well enough for our purposes. He would only complain about twice a month about tape drive contention and such. Let me know if you would like more details on how to setup the policy and what command line arguments we used. Tom Simerson Sr. Systems Engineer Sigma Solutions, Inc. +-- |This was sent by t...@tjsimerson.org via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in
[Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time
I understand Netbackup does a cleanup process on a regular bases when a job fails or ends etc. Also I understand a nightly cleanup process runs to expire images on disk etc.. What time does this nightly cleanup job kick off or better yet, how do I change this job to run at a specific time? Thanks for the help. Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 bwin...@wlgore.com | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time
My experience has shown that as soon as NetBackup starts for the first time it runs a cleanup. Then, it will run a cleanup based on the bpconfig value for DB Cleanup Interval, which is 12 by default. So, assuming default value of 12, if you start NetBackup at 2:15pm, the next cleanup will run at 2:15am, then 2:15pm, etc. We have the ability to force many parts of the cleanup process, but I have not yet gotten a good single command to run the whole cleanup process in its entirety. -Rob Thelen. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Bobby R Windle Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:40 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time I understand Netbackup does a cleanup process on a regular bases when a job fails or ends etc. Also I understand a nightly cleanup process runs to expire images on disk etc.. What time does this nightly cleanup job kick off or better yet, how do I change this job to run at a specific time? Thanks for the help. Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 bwin...@wlgore.com | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time
Been looking at this myself. The image clean up is part of it. By default it is set to 12 hours and can go a low as 8 hours. A clean up will run after a restore if nothing else is running, or after a session of backups. But it is the bpexpidate -deassigempty that expires images. And this you cannot change when it runs From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Bobby R Windle Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:40 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time I understand Netbackup does a cleanup process on a regular bases when a job fails or ends etc. Also I understand a nightly cleanup process runs to expire images on disk etc.. What time does this nightly cleanup job kick off or better yet, how do I change this job to run at a specific time? Thanks for the help. Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 bwin...@wlgore.com | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH135182 this may give some insite From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 12:19 PM To: bwin...@wlgore.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time Been looking at this myself. The image clean up is part of it. By default it is set to 12 hours and can go a low as 8 hours. A clean up will run after a restore if nothing else is running, or after a session of backups. But it is the bpexpidate -deassigempty that expires images. And this you cannot change when it runs From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Bobby R Windle Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:40 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time I understand Netbackup does a cleanup process on a regular bases when a job fails or ends etc. Also I understand a nightly cleanup process runs to expire images on disk etc.. What time does this nightly cleanup job kick off or better yet, how do I change this job to run at a specific time? Thanks for the help. Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 bwin...@wlgore.com | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time
I think along with the below your also asking if you can run the cleanup of images manually rather than waiting for the twelve hour default, if so: \admincmd\bpimage -cleanup -allclients -sj judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com 11/12/2010 11:21 AM http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH135182 this may give some insite From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 12:19 PM To: bwin...@wlgore.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time Been looking at this myself. The image clean up is part of it. By default it is set to 12 hours and can go a low as 8 hours. A clean up will run after a restore if nothing else is running, or after a session of backups. But it is the bpexpidate *deassigempty that expires images. And this you cannot change when it runs From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Bobby R Windle Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:40 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time I understand Netbackup does a cleanup process on a regular bases when a job fails or ends etc. Also I understand a nightly cleanup process runs to expire images on disk etc.. What time does this nightly cleanup job kick off or better yet, how do I change this job to run at a specific time? Thanks for the help. Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 bwin...@wlgore.com | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time
A couple of years ago we had this in a cron job and would find backups occasionally failing with a status 228. I don't know if it was specific that the release we were running at the time but I'd suggest being careful about triggering these cleanups manually. .../Ed On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Scott Jacobson sjaco...@novell.com wrote: I think along with the below your also asking if you can run the cleanup of images manually rather than waiting for the twelve hour default, if so: \admincmd\bpimage -cleanup -allclients -sj judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com 11/12/2010 11:21 AM http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH135182 this may give some insite *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of * judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com *Sent:* Friday, November 12, 2010 12:19 PM *To:* bwin...@wlgore.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time Been looking at this myself. The image clean up is part of it. By default it is set to 12 hours and can go a low as 8 hours. A clean up will run after a restore if nothing else is running, or after a session of backups. But it is the bpexpidate -deassigempty that expires images. And this you cannot change when it runs *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *Bobby R Windle *Sent:* Friday, November 12, 2010 11:40 AM *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time I understand Netbackup does a cleanup process on a regular bases when a job fails or ends etc. Also I understand a nightly cleanup process runs to expire images on disk etc.. What time does this nightly cleanup job kick off or better yet, how do I change this job to run at a specific time? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Policies not populating after the upgrade from 6.5.3 to 7.0.1
Hello Team, We just upgraded from 6.5.3 to 7.0.1. Everything seems normal but our policies are not populating in java gui. Any ideas or pointers are appreciated. Regards, Saranjit ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time
I agree with Ed, the below -allclients switch may still be undocumented for a variety of reasons. Indeed, use with caution. -sj Ed Wilts ewi...@ewilts.org 11/12/2010 1:44 PM A couple of years ago we had this in a cron job and would find backups occasionally failing with a status 228. I don't know if it was specific that the release we were running at the time but I'd suggest being careful about triggering these cleanups manually. .../Ed On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Scott Jacobson sjaco...@novell.com wrote: I think along with the below your also asking if you can run the cleanup of images manually rather than waiting for the twelve hour default, if so: \admincmd\bpimage -cleanup -allclients -sj judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com 11/12/2010 11:21 AM http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH135182 this may give some insite From:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 12:19 PM To: bwin...@wlgore.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time Been looking at this myself. The image clean up is part of it. By default it is set to 12 hours and can go a low as 8 hours. A clean up will run after a restore if nothing else is running, or after a session of backups. But it is the bpexpidate -deassigempty that expires images. And this you cannot change when it runs From:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Bobby R Windle Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:40 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time I understand Netbackup does a cleanup process on a regular bases when a job fails or ends etc. Also I understand a nightly cleanup process runs to expire images on disk etc.. What time does this nightly cleanup job kick off or better yet, how do I change this job to run at a specific time? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Pushing to a MAC
To me it looks like the MAC has some restrictions on ftp for your user account Think your best bet is to get hold of the MAC server administrator Regards Michael 2010/11/12 judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com I have an AIX master They have built a new MAC server that they need NB on. I want to do the command ./install_client_files ftp clientname myusername But I get the following error after I put in my password Missing directories on client. You cannot install to a restricted ftpaccess user. client install failed What is preventing me from doing the ftp? *Judy Hinchcliffe* AIX Systems Engineer, Technology - Infrastructure Services 19001 Crecent Springs Drive Mail Stop 2-5335 Kingwood, Texas 77339 OFFICE: 281-312-3538 [image: administaff] http://www.administaff.com/?pid=emailsig ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu image001.jpg___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
