Yes, it is...

Have you worked with them before?

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   3. Re: UNIX doesn't like windows "space" (Stump, Bob A)
   4. date calculator (Stump, Bob A)
   5. Re: date calculator (Jeff Lightner)
   6. Re: date calculator (Martin, Jonathan)
   7. Re: date calculator (Ed Wilts)
   8. Re: date calculator (Randy Samora)
   9. Re: sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5 (Preston, Douglas L)
  10. Re: sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5 (Preston, Douglas L)
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:57:48 -0800
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] "piece handles" in Oracle RMAN backups..what are
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While doing some full hotbackups via the Oracle db agent, we've noticed that 
the total size of the jobs ran through Netbackup vs the database size can be 
50-70% more.   Of those jobs, we see the actual data files as one part of the 
backup and something called "piece handles" (from the RMAN) log also being sent 
to Netbackup that amount for the size discrepency.

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] UNIX doesn't like windows "space"
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On Jan 22, 2008 2:23 PM, Stump, Bob A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  How do I get past the "space" in a windows folder name when running
> bplist from a UNIX master?
>

Like all other Unix  shell commands that have spaces in them - escape it.
Ditto if you have wildcards in your bplist.

> For instance
>
>
> #  bplist -C daddywarbucks -t 13 -R 2 -nt_files -s 01/01/2007 -e
> 01/22/2008 /C/Program Files/VERITAS/NetBackup
>
#  bplist -C daddywarbucks -t 13 -R 2 -nt_files -s 01/01/2007 -e 01/22/2008 
/C/Program\ Files/VERITAS/NetBackup

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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:07:24 -0600
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Thanks to all

The backslash, single quote, double quotes all worked.





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On Jan 22, 2008 2:23 PM, Stump, Bob A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

        How do I get past the "space" in a windows folder name when running 
bplist from a UNIX master?


Like all other Unix  shell commands that have spaces in them - escape it.  
Ditto if you have wildcards in your bplist.

        For instance


        #  bplist -C daddywarbucks -t 13 -R 2 -nt_files -s 01/01/2007 -e
01/22/2008 /C/Program Files/VERITAS/NetBackup

#  bplist -C daddywarbucks -t 13 -R 2 -nt_files -s 01/01/2007 -e
01/22/2008 /C/Program\ Files/VERITAS/NetBackup


   .../Ed


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Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I added
558 days to it?

For instance, what date would it be 558 days after July 7, 2008?



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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:27:50 -0500
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Excel does date math - just format as date.  Input 07/07/08 in one cell
(say B5) then in B6 put formula "=B5+588"   So long as B6 is formatted
as a date field it should show you the resulting date.



Answer is February 15, 2010 by the way.



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Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I added
558 days to it?

For instance, what date would it be 558 days after July 7, 2008?



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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:38:08 -0500
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Did you want something online / one time thing?

http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html

Or were you looking for something scriptable?

-Jonathan

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Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I added
558 days to it?

For instance, what date would it be 558 days after July 7, 2008?



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On Jan 22, 2008 3:16 PM, Stump, Bob A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I
> added
> 558 days to it?
>
> For instance, what date would it be 558 days after July 7, 2008?
>
In a Linux bash shell:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ewilts]$ date -d "7/7/2008 +558 days"
Sat Jan 16 00:00:00 CST 2010

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>From date: Monday, July 7, 2008

Added 558 days

Resulting date: Saturday, January 16, 2010



http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html



Thanks,

Randy



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Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I added
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For instance, what date would it be 558 days after July 7, 2008?



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5
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Nbgp.exe is not in windows 6.51 bpdir.exe still exists in windows 6.51

Doug Preston
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

What about the new nbgp:

# ls -l /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/*gp
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/nbgp

The old syntax apparently doesn't work.  What DOES work?  (Let's not try this 
on a production system, shall we?)

Also, is the new nbgp on Windows?

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nope... that is gone.

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Somebody please check to see if bpdir still exists in NB 6.5


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I'm looking into whether or not this is true.  If it is, it's time for an email 
campaign.

Some see it as a security hole, and I think that's ridiculous.  Anybody who is 
root/Administrator on a NetBackup master can push any file to any client any 
time they want via a backup/restore command.  Removing bpgp only makes it take 
a few minutes instead of a few seconds.

Other complaints about it over the years have been that it doesn't check for 
like/like. You can overwrite a directory with a file if you tell it to.  For 
example, the following command would be VERY BAD!

WRONGWAY# bpgp to client /etc/hosts /etc #DON'T DO THIS

While this would be perfectly valid syntax with copy, cp, rcp, mv, etc, it is 
NOT proper syntax with bpgp.  The command above would overwrite the /etc 
DIRECTORY with /etc/hosts, which, of course, would not be good for your client. 
 (Some have even overwritten their root mount point.) Perhaps they got too many 
calls from people that did just that.

Of course, about five lines of code could have fixed that problem.  It doesn't 
allow you to copy a directory, but it doesn't check if what you're copying to 
is a directory. A simple check that the target file is or is not a directory 
would have sufficed.  If it was a directory, it could just exit with error.  
But they chose instead to just pretend the command didn't exist.  It's not 
documented; there's not even a Usage statement in the command itself, even if 
you do strings.  If you call support and complain they tell you it's not 
supported.

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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:05:31 -0500
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My bad,  that is left over from a previous version.

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Nbgp.exe is not in windows 6.51 bpdir.exe still exists in windows 6.51

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

What about the new nbgp:

# ls -l /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/*gp
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/nbgp

The old syntax apparently doesn't work.  What DOES work?  (Let's not try this 
on a production system, shall we?)

Also, is the new nbgp on Windows?

---
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Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies

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nope... that is gone.

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Somebody please check to see if bpdir still exists in NB 6.5


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I'm looking into whether or not this is true.  If it is, it's time for an email 
campaign.

Some see it as a security hole, and I think that's ridiculous.  Anybody who is 
root/Administrator on a NetBackup master can push any file to any client any 
time they want via a backup/restore command.  Removing bpgp only makes it take 
a few minutes instead of a few seconds.

Other complaints about it over the years have been that it doesn't check for 
like/like. You can overwrite a directory with a file if you tell it to.  For 
example, the following command would be VERY BAD!

WRONGWAY# bpgp to client /etc/hosts /etc #DON'T DO THIS

While this would be perfectly valid syntax with copy, cp, rcp, mv, etc, it is 
NOT proper syntax with bpgp.  The command above would overwrite the /etc 
DIRECTORY with /etc/hosts, which, of course, would not be good for your client. 
 (Some have even overwritten their root mount point.) Perhaps they got too many 
calls from people that did just that.

Of course, about five lines of code could have fixed that problem.  It doesn't 
allow you to copy a directory, but it doesn't check if what you're copying to 
is a directory. A simple check that the target file is or is not a directory 
would have sufficed.  If it was a directory, it could just exit with error.  
But they chose instead to just pretend the command didn't exist.  It's not 
documented; there's not even a Usage statement in the command itself, even if 
you do strings.  If you call support and complain they tell you it's not 
supported.

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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:08:13 -0500
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Whoops - my apologies on earlier answer.  It is Jan 16 2010 as Ed has it
- I accidentally added "588" rather than "558" in my answer.



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On Jan 22, 2008 3:16 PM, Stump, Bob A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

        Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I added 
558 days to it?

        For instance, what date would it be 558 days after July 7, 2008?

In a Linux bash shell:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ewilts]$ date -d "7/7/2008 +558 days"
Sat Jan 16 00:00:00 CST 2010

   .../Ed

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