Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Policy Selection for Windows
Sorry I confused... No, you're not confused. You are configuring NetBackup in what seems the obvious way from your background (we _all_ do this, whether it's backup or programming or word processing). The question is I have about 10 windows clients and each client has different mount points to be back-up. C:\cygwin C:\Inetpub C:\net-snmp C:\Inetpub C:\net-snmp C:\PHP D:\Program Files D:\user_files D:\Program Files D:\Webroot N:\Documents and Settings N:\notesdata N:\oracle N:\Program Files E:\Backup E:\Inetpub\visa E:\Inetpub\wwwroot G:\CheetahMailCLA G:\CheetahMailExtraction G:\CheetahMailUnsubUpdate V2 I have got a new request to backup new clients with whole C:\ and D:\ drive. If I use C:\ or D:\ then rest of the clients will also be backed up, which I don't want. Is it I have to create a new policy for specific requirements. And what I'm telling you is that you _do_ want to just back up all the C: and D: drives. One policy, with all the clients, with one selection list. Trading backing up more than the minimum on those drives is cheaper than managing a half dozen policies and their different results, day in an day out. Your brain should be occupied in something more productive than trying to get backups onto one less tape. So, again, make one policy, put all the clients in it, put all the drives (or all_local_drives) in the selection list and go on to other things. If you don't like that advice, then, yes, you need multiple poliies any time that the Attributes, Schedules, Clients and Selections _have_ to be different. And, yes, there _are_ reasons to do that but you haven't put forward any except new requirement.A requirement to back up x and y on clientA and z on clientB can be satisfied most easily with one policy that backs up x, y and z on both clientA and clientB. The selections need not exist on all clients, as long as one selection (within each stream--should you define them) exists. [...] I am new for Windows backup. Need your help to explain on below Here is the requirement. Windows Clients List ... CTLBIS1 CTLFS1 CTL-JAM [...] Backup Selection Example. CTLDS04 Full C: drive NS Full C: drive Full D: drive NS0 C:\WINNT\System32\dns I can understand if we have absolute path selection. But how about C:\ or D:\ or E:\ etc... how system will check from the above clients list which server's C:\ or D:\ or E:\ need to backup and other clients just absolute path. If you have any background in NetBackup (that's not clear from your note), it's no different than backing up any other system, like Unix boxes with a Standard class. A selection list entry, such as c:\ /c/program files/a* c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc /usr/openwin/bin/xclock tells NetBackup to back up that selection (and its expansions if wildcards are used, and everthing under it if it's a directory). If the schedule is a full, it's all backed up. If an incremental (differential or cumulative), only the changed files per the rules for diffs and cincs are backed up. If the schedule has a window and a frequency (or equivalent calendar-based automatic scheuling), invoke it automatically accoring to those rules. You tell NetBackup what to back up (Selection List), on what clients (Clients), when and how (Scheules) by the class (policy) settings. NetBackup will follow the rules you have written in the class definition. If any of this is new to you, you must read at _least_ the Veritas NetBackup Administrator's Guide, Volume 1. For now, create one Win-FS policy, put ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES in the selection list, put all the windows clients in the client list, put in a full and a differential scheule and run them manually Add automatic scheuling and other attributes as your knowledge grows. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Policy Selection for Windows
Bob is 100% correct here. the time taken to even discuss this is more effort than configuring a Policy that has the ALL LOCAL DRIVES Directive :-) For anything to do with Windows, you definetely WANT to back it all up! dont ignore files! Unless you really, really have to ! If you need help get back in touch :-) Warm Regards Simon -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of bob944 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:51 AM To: 'Harpreet SINGH' Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Policy Selection for Windows Sorry I confused... No, you're not confused. You are configuring NetBackup in what seems the obvious way from your background (we _all_ do this, whether it's backup or programming or word processing). The question is I have about 10 windows clients and each client has different mount points to be back-up. C:\cygwin C:\Inetpub C:\net-snmp C:\Inetpub C:\net-snmp C:\PHP D:\Program Files D:\user_files D:\Program Files D:\Webroot N:\Documents and Settings N:\notesdata N:\oracle N:\Program Files E:\Backup E:\Inetpub\visa E:\Inetpub\wwwroot G:\CheetahMailCLA G:\CheetahMailExtraction G:\CheetahMailUnsubUpdate V2 I have got a new request to backup new clients with whole C:\ and D:\ drive. If I use C:\ or D:\ then rest of the clients will also be backed up, which I don't want. Is it I have to create a new policy for specific requirements. And what I'm telling you is that you _do_ want to just back up all the C: and D: drives. One policy, with all the clients, with one selection list. Trading backing up more than the minimum on those drives is cheaper than managing a half dozen policies and their different results, day in an day out. Your brain should be occupied in something more productive than trying to get backups onto one less tape. So, again, make one policy, put all the clients in it, put all the drives (or all_local_drives) in the selection list and go on to other things. If you don't like that advice, then, yes, you need multiple poliies any time that the Attributes, Schedules, Clients and Selections _have_ to be different. And, yes, there _are_ reasons to do that but you haven't put forward any except new requirement.A requirement to back up x and y on clientA and z on clientB can be satisfied most easily with one policy that backs up x, y and z on both clientA and clientB. The selections need not exist on all clients, as long as one selection (within each stream--should you define them) exists. [...] I am new for Windows backup. Need your help to explain on below Here is the requirement. Windows Clients List ... CTLBIS1 CTLFS1 CTL-JAM [...] Backup Selection Example. CTLDS04 Full C: drive NS Full C: drive Full D: drive NS0 C:\WINNT\System32\dns I can understand if we have absolute path selection. But how about C:\ or D:\ or E:\ etc... how system will check from the above clients list which server's C:\ or D:\ or E:\ need to backup and other clients just absolute path. If you have any background in NetBackup (that's not clear from your note), it's no different than backing up any other system, like Unix boxes with a Standard class. A selection list entry, such as c:\ /c/program files/a* c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc /usr/openwin/bin/xclock tells NetBackup to back up that selection (and its expansions if wildcards are used, and everthing under it if it's a directory). If the schedule is a full, it's all backed up. If an incremental (differential or cumulative), only the changed files per the rules for diffs and cincs are backed up. If the schedule has a window and a frequency (or equivalent calendar-based automatic scheuling), invoke it automatically accoring to those rules. You tell NetBackup what to back up (Selection List), on what clients (Clients), when and how (Scheules) by the class (policy) settings. NetBackup will follow the rules you have written in the class definition. If any of this is new to you, you must read at _least_ the Veritas NetBackup Administrator's Guide, Volume 1. For now, create one Win-FS policy, put ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES in the selection list, put all the windows clients in the client list, put in a full and a differential scheule and run them manually Add automatic scheuling and other attributes as your knowledge grows. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Policy Selection for Windows
Dear Mr. Bob, Sorry I confused... The question is I have about 10 windows clients and each client has different mount points to be back-up. C:\cygwin C:\Inetpub C:\net-snmp C:\Inetpub C:\net-snmp C:\PHP D:\Program Files D:\user_files D:\Program Files D:\Webroot N:\Documents and Settings N:\notesdata N:\oracle N:\Program Files E:\Backup E:\Inetpub\visa E:\Inetpub\wwwroot G:\CheetahMailCLA G:\CheetahMailExtraction G:\CheetahMailUnsubUpdate V2 I have got a new request to backup new clients with whole C:\ and D:\ drive. If I use C:\ or D:\ then rest of the clients will also be backed up, which I don't want. Is it I have to create a new policy for specific requirements. With Warm Regards =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Harpreet Singh Chana Phone : (O) 6895 - 4326 Fax :(O) 6895 - 4991 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Notice The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying or distribution of the message, or any action taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and contact the sender immediately. Thank you. bob944 bob...@attglobal .net To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 01/24/2010 06:13 cc AMharpreet_si...@ctl.creative.com Subject RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Policy Please respond to Selection for Windows bob...@attglobal .net I am new for Windows backup. Need your help to explain on below Here is the requirement. Windows Clients List ... CTLBIS1 CTLFS1 CTL-JAM [...] Backup Selection Example. CTLDS04 Full C: drive NS Full C: drive Full D: drive NS0 C:\WINNT\System32\dns I can understand if we have absolute path selection. But how about C:\ or D:\ or E:\ etc... how system will check from the above clients list which server's C:\ or D:\ or E:\ need to backup and other clients just absolute path. If you have any background in NetBackup (that's not clear from your note), it's no different than backing up any other system, like Unix boxes with a Standard class. A selection list entry, such as c:\ /c/program files/a* c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc /usr/openwin/bin/xclock tells NetBackup to back up that selection (and its expansions if wildcards are used, and everthing under it if it's a directory). If the schedule is a full, it's all backed up. If an incremental (differential or cumulative), only the changed files per the rules for diffs and cincs are backed up. If the schedule has a window and a frequency (or equivalent calendar-based automatic scheuling), invoke it automatically accoring to those rules. You tell NetBackup what to back up (Selection List), on what clients (Clients), when and how (Scheules) by the class (policy) settings. NetBackup will follow the rules you have written in the class definition. If any of this is new to you, you must read at _least_ the Veritas NetBackup Administrator's Guide, Volume 1. For now, create one Win-FS policy, put ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES in the selection list, put all the windows clients in the client list, put in a full and a differential scheule and run them manually Add automatic scheuling and other attributes as your knowledge grows. ForwardSourceID:NT0013535E ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Policy Selection for Windows
At the policy use the directive all local drives. Go to host properties-clients, select a client right click it and select properties.(you can do it form the policy also - select the client and right click it) Go to exclude list and add the policy name. Add the \*. Now go to include list and under the same policy add the paths you want to backup. Click ok and go to the next client. Finish. Always check what you have done. Use the restore GUI to check what you had backed up. stefanos -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Harpreet SINGH Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:16 PM To: bob...@attglobal.net Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Policy Selection for Windows Dear Mr. Bob, Sorry I confused... The question is I have about 10 windows clients and each client has different mount points to be back-up. C:\cygwin C:\Inetpub C:\net-snmp C:\Inetpub C:\net-snmp C:\PHP D:\Program Files D:\user_files D:\Program Files D:\Webroot N:\Documents and Settings N:\notesdata N:\oracle N:\Program Files E:\Backup E:\Inetpub\visa E:\Inetpub\wwwroot G:\CheetahMailCLA G:\CheetahMailExtraction G:\CheetahMailUnsubUpdate V2 I have got a new request to backup new clients with whole C:\ and D:\ drive. If I use C:\ or D:\ then rest of the clients will also be backed up, which I don't want. Is it I have to create a new policy for specific requirements. With Warm Regards =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Harpreet Singh Chana Phone : (O) 6895 - 4326 Fax :(O) 6895 - 4991 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Notice The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying or distribution of the message, or any action taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and contact the sender immediately. Thank you. bob944 bob...@attglobal .net To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 01/24/2010 06:13 cc AMharpreet_si...@ctl.creative.com Subject RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Policy Please respond to Selection for Windows bob...@attglobal .net I am new for Windows backup. Need your help to explain on below Here is the requirement. Windows Clients List ... CTLBIS1 CTLFS1 CTL-JAM [...] Backup Selection Example. CTLDS04 Full C: drive NS Full C: drive Full D: drive NS0 C:\WINNT\System32\dns I can understand if we have absolute path selection. But how about C:\ or D:\ or E:\ etc... how system will check from the above clients list which server's C:\ or D:\ or E:\ need to backup and other clients just absolute path. If you have any background in NetBackup (that's not clear from your note), it's no different than backing up any other system, like Unix boxes with a Standard class. A selection list entry, such as c:\ /c/program files/a* c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc /usr/openwin/bin/xclock tells NetBackup to back up that selection (and its expansions if wildcards are used, and everthing under it if it's a directory). If the schedule is a full, it's all backed up. If an incremental (differential or cumulative), only the changed files per the rules for diffs and cincs are backed up. If the schedule has a window and a frequency (or equivalent calendar-based automatic scheuling), invoke it automatically accoring to those rules. You tell NetBackup what to back up (Selection List), on what clients (Clients), when and how (Scheules) by the class (policy) settings. NetBackup will follow the rules you have written in the class definition. If any of this is new to you, you must read at _least_ the Veritas NetBackup Administrator's Guide, Volume 1. For now, create one Win-FS policy, put ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES in the selection list, put all the windows
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Policy Selection for Windows
I am new for Windows backup. Need your help to explain on below Here is the requirement. Windows Clients List ... CTLBIS1 CTLFS1 CTL-JAM [...] Backup Selection Example. CTLDS04 Full C: drive NS Full C: drive Full D: drive NS0 C:\WINNT\System32\dns I can understand if we have absolute path selection. But how about C:\ or D:\ or E:\ etc... how system will check from the above clients list which server's C:\ or D:\ or E:\ need to backup and other clients just absolute path. If you have any background in NetBackup (that's not clear from your note), it's no different than backing up any other system, like Unix boxes with a Standard class. A selection list entry, such as c:\ /c/program files/a* c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc /usr/openwin/bin/xclock tells NetBackup to back up that selection (and its expansions if wildcards are used, and everthing under it if it's a directory). If the schedule is a full, it's all backed up. If an incremental (differential or cumulative), only the changed files per the rules for diffs and cincs are backed up. If the schedule has a window and a frequency (or equivalent calendar-based automatic scheuling), invoke it automatically accoring to those rules. You tell NetBackup what to back up (Selection List), on what clients (Clients), when and how (Scheules) by the class (policy) settings. NetBackup will follow the rules you have written in the class definition. If any of this is new to you, you must read at _least_ the Veritas NetBackup Administrator's Guide, Volume 1. For now, create one Win-FS policy, put ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES in the selection list, put all the windows clients in the client list, put in a full and a differential scheule and run them manually Add automatic scheuling and other attributes as your knowledge grows. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backup Policy Selection for Windows.
Dear All, I am new for Windows backup. Need your help to explain on below Here is the requirement. Windows Clients List ... CTLBIS1 CTLFS1 CTL-JAM CTLSHAREPT1 CTLBO1 CTLCITRIX1 CTLCROIS02 CTLHYPERION1 CTLROHSSQL1 CTLROHSWEB1 CTLMRTG CTLDS04 NS NS0 etc... Backup Selection Example. CTLDS04 Full C: drive NS Full C: drive Full D: drive NS0 C:\WINNT\System32\dns I can understand if we have absolute path selection. But how about C:\ or D:\ or E:\ etc... how system will check from the above clients list which server's C:\ or D:\ or E:\ need to backup and other clients just absolute path. With Warm Regards =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Harpreet Singh Chana Phone : (O) 6895 - 4326 Fax :(O) 6895 - 4991 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Notice The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying or distribution of the message, or any action taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and contact the sender immediately. Thank you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
