Re: [Veritas-bu] Disaster Recovery Site

2006-08-01 Thread Dave Markham
I've done something similar which is adopted as a DR method by the
customer. Its perhaps not as fancy as below but carries the same
important feature. The master server at DR site is the same hostname as
the Production site. This was critical in getting the DR process to work.

All i do is backup to disk each day the catalouges of Prod site ( also
to tape ) and rsync them over to DR site backup server. The DR site
backup server has its own catalogue for backing the DR site up during
normal operation but in DR scenario i backup the DR catalogus (bpbackup
-dpath etc ) and then recover the rsynced ones from production site (
bprecover) now my DR site knows about all the tapes used at production
site ( where i also have an ITC and tapes sent offsite ) and so i can
restore from production machines onto DR machines.

Works a charm

Dave

Paul Keating wrote:
 Inline Tape Copy.
  
 It's a Netbackup feature where two tapes are written simultaneously.
  
 We've done several tests of our infrastructure, and it has worked well.
 We have a corporate test coming up soon.hope that goes as well.
 The procedures and everything will be the same, so it should go fine,
 there will just be 20 times more people involved in testing their
 stuff, so it will be much more hectic.
  
 Paul
  
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 Paul,
  
 What is ITC?  You say your tapes are replicated using ITC
  
 That sounds like a decent plan.  Have you tested a DR event, and
 has it worked out alright?
  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disaster Recovery Site

2006-08-01 Thread WEAVER, Simon

Dave
That sounds good! I sadly DON'T have a DR plan of sort, but I have a process
where the Catalog tapes and ones to disk are replicated around a site - so
in the event of the Master going pear-shaped (and assuming the robot is all
ok!!), restore via bprecover same drive config / MP, ect and that has
worked.

But it would be nice to have another site solution similar to Paul, but
adapting this to make the process to moving over as painless as possible,
with minimal fuss.

Thanks

Regards

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3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
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-Original Message-
From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 August 2006 14:02
To: Paul Keating
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Disaster Recovery Site


I've done something similar which is adopted as a DR method by the customer.
Its perhaps not as fancy as below but carries the same important feature.
The master server at DR site is the same hostname as the Production site.
This was critical in getting the DR process to work.

All i do is backup to disk each day the catalouges of Prod site ( also to
tape ) and rsync them over to DR site backup server. The DR site backup
server has its own catalogue for backing the DR site up during normal
operation but in DR scenario i backup the DR catalogus (bpbackup -dpath etc
) and then recover the rsynced ones from production site (
bprecover) now my DR site knows about all the tapes used at production site
( where i also have an ITC and tapes sent offsite ) and so i can restore
from production machines onto DR machines.

Works a charm

Dave

Paul Keating wrote:
 Inline Tape Copy.
 
 It's a Netbackup feature where two tapes are written simultaneously.
 
 We've done several tests of our infrastructure, and it has worked
 well. We have a corporate test coming up soon.hope that goes as
 well. The procedures and everything will be the same, so it should go
 fine, there will just be 20 times more people involved in testing
 their stuff, so it will be much more hectic.
 
 Paul
 
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 *Sent:* July 31, 2006 1:26 PM
 *To:* Paul Keating; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 *Subject:* RE: [Veritas-bu] Disaster Recovery Site

 Paul,
 
 What is ITC?  You say your tapes are replicated using ITC
 
 That sounds like a decent plan.  Have you tested a DR event, and
 has it worked out alright?
 
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[Veritas-bu] Disaster Recovery Site

2006-07-31 Thread Sponsler, Michael
Title: Disaster Recovery Site






I'm working to get a Disaster Recovery Site setup and configured. I'm running my backups on my master server (netbackup 6.0) from City A, and that master server backs up information from Cities X, Y, and Z. The plan is to have another Master Server (netbackup 6.0), for disaster recover, setup at City B (it's 100 miles away, with a 10 meg fiber link to city A). I was wondering about a best practices approach. The catalog for the master server in City A sits on an external RAID device (Sun StoreEdge 9980). The catalog is to be replicated using Veritas Volume Replicator to a Sun StorEdge 9980 in City B, so that the Disaster Recovery site as a mirror to the catalog in City A. The idea is, is that if City A were for some reason to either Fall off the map, or be disconnected from the internet, City B's master server could pick up where City A left off. I know there are tape issues involved here, and what I'm trying to setup is basically a Netbackup Cluster. Now given the fact that City A and City B are at least 100 miles apart, is there anything anyone can recommend for my situation?

Also, given that I'll have two master Servers (an active / passive thing), what would be the best way to approach hostnames? Does netbackup allow you to change the hostname? Are there any issues with changing a master server's hostname? Has anyone worked with the Netbackup Cluster software? Would they recommend it for a Disaster Recovery Site like I described?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disaster Recovery Site

2006-07-31 Thread Paul Keating
Title: Message



I have 
a similar setup, except I'm using a GigE link over DWDM/leased fiber, as well as 
a pair of 2Gb/s FC connections.

I have 
a master at two sites, each site has a tape library.

the 
/opt/openv filesystem is replicated using VVR, and the tapes are replicated 
using ITC, so each backup writes simultaneously to a tape at each 
location.

in the 
case of a DR event, the 2nd master would take over the replicated filesystem, 
daemons started, and the device configuration wizard would be run to reconfigure 
Netbackup to see whatever drives were available (probably only the 2nd site 
drives, rather than both sites' drive as the original master had 
seen.)
All 
second copy tapes would be promoted to pirmary and we're off to the 
races.

as far 
as the hostname thing.

each 
of my masters has 2 NICs.

the 
nic names have nothing to do with the "master" name.

both 
systems are named "master", in /etc/nodename, etcnetbackup is installed with 
"master" as the name in all configs.

at 
head office, the NIC names in DNS, and in the /etc/hosts files are master-ho1 
and master-ho2
at the 
DR site, the NIC names in DNS, and in the /etc/hosts files are master-dr1 and 
master-dr2

at 
head office, there is a dns alias that points "master" to 
"master-ho1"
in our 
DR plan, there is a note to change the alias to point to master-dr1, however 
that is only significant for launching the GUI from a host other than the 
master, as both masters have an entry in their hosts files that point "master" 
to the same IP as the primary NIC.

works 
fine for us.alternating the catalog backups to2 tapes, one at HO and 
one at DR is a good idea, or if you don't have FC connectivity to the second 
site, make sure a copy ofyour catalog tape is sent to the DR site with 
your data tapes.

Paul


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  Sponsler, MichaelSent: July 31, 2006 10:03 AMTo: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Disaster 
  Recovery Site
  I'm working to get a Disaster Recovery Site setup 
  and configured. I'm running my backups on my master server (netbackup 
  6.0) from City A, and that master server backs up information from Cities X, 
  Y, and Z. The plan is to have another Master Server (netbackup 6.0), for 
  disaster recover, setup at City B (it's 100 miles away, with a 10 meg fiber 
  link to city A). I was wondering about a "best practices" 
  approach. The catalog for the master server in City A sits on an 
  external RAID device (Sun StoreEdge 9980). The catalog is to be 
  replicated using Veritas Volume Replicator to a Sun StorEdge 9980 in City B, 
  so that the Disaster Recovery site as a mirror to the catalog in City A. 
  The idea is, is that if City A were for some reason to either Fall off the 
  map, or be disconnected from the internet, City B's master server could pick 
  up where City A left off. I know there are tape issues involved here, 
  and what I'm trying to setup is basically a Netbackup Cluster. Now given 
  the fact that City A and City B are at least 100 miles apart, is there 
  anything anyone can recommend for my situation?
  Also, given that I'll have two master Servers (an 
  active / passive thing), what would be the best way to approach 
  hostnames? Does netbackup allow you to change the hostname? Are 
  there any issues with changing a master server's hostname? Has anyone 
  worked with the Netbackup Cluster software? Would they recommend it for 
  a Disaster Recovery Site like I described?


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disaster Recovery Site

2006-07-31 Thread Sponsler, Michael
Title: Message



Paul,

What is ITC? You say your tapes are replicated using 
ITC

That sounds like a decent plan. Have you tested a DR 
event, and has it worked out alright?

--
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Northrop Grumman


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul 
KeatingSent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:19 AMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Disaster 
Recovery Site

I have 
a similar setup, except I'm using a GigE link over DWDM/leased fiber, as well as 
a pair of 2Gb/s FC connections.

I have 
a master at two sites, each site has a tape library.

the 
/opt/openv filesystem is replicated using VVR, and the tapes are replicated 
using ITC, so each backup writes simultaneously to a tape at each 
location.

in the 
case of a DR event, the 2nd master would take over the replicated filesystem, 
daemons started, and the device configuration wizard would be run to reconfigure 
Netbackup to see whatever drives were available (probably only the 2nd site 
drives, rather than both sites' drive as the original master had 
seen.)
All 
second copy tapes would be promoted to pirmary and we're off to the 
races.

as far 
as the hostname thing.

each 
of my masters has 2 NICs.

the 
nic names have nothing to do with the "master" name.

both 
systems are named "master", in /etc/nodename, etcnetbackup is installed with 
"master" as the name in all configs.

at 
head office, the NIC names in DNS, and in the /etc/hosts files are master-ho1 
and master-ho2
at the 
DR site, the NIC names in DNS, and in the /etc/hosts files are master-dr1 and 
master-dr2

at 
head office, there is a dns alias that points "master" to 
"master-ho1"
in our 
DR plan, there is a note to change the alias to point to master-dr1, however 
that is only significant for launching the GUI from a host other than the 
master, as both masters have an entry in their hosts files that point "master" 
to the same IP as the primary NIC.

works 
fine for us.alternating the catalog backups to2 tapes, one at HO and 
one at DR is a good idea, or if you don't have FC connectivity to the second 
site, make sure a copy ofyour catalog tape is sent to the DR site with 
your data tapes.

Paul


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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Sponsler, MichaelSent: July 31, 2006 10:03 AMTo: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Disaster 
  Recovery Site
  I'm working to get a Disaster Recovery Site setup 
  and configured. I'm running my backups on my master server (netbackup 
  6.0) from City A, and that master server backs up information from Cities X, 
  Y, and Z. The plan is to have another Master Server (netbackup 6.0), for 
  disaster recover, setup at City B (it's 100 miles away, with a 10 meg fiber 
  link to city A). I was wondering about a "best practices" 
  approach. The catalog for the master server in City A sits on an 
  external RAID device (Sun StoreEdge 9980). The catalog is to be 
  replicated using Veritas Volume Replicator to a Sun StorEdge 9980 in City B, 
  so that the Disaster Recovery site as a mirror to the catalog in City A. 
  The idea is, is that if City A were for some reason to either Fall off the 
  map, or be disconnected from the internet, City B's master server could pick 
  up where City A left off. I know there are tape issues involved here, 
  and what I'm trying to setup is basically a Netbackup Cluster. Now given 
  the fact that City A and City B are at least 100 miles apart, is there 
  anything anyone can recommend for my situation?
  Also, given that I'll have two master Servers (an 
  active / passive thing), what would be the best way to approach 
  hostnames? Does netbackup allow you to change the hostname? Are 
  there any issues with changing a master server's hostname? Has anyone 
  worked with the Netbackup Cluster software? Would they recommend it for 
  a Disaster Recovery Site like I described?
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disaster Recovery Site

2006-07-31 Thread Paul Keating
Title: Message



Inline 
Tape Copy.

It's a 
Netbackupfeature where two tapes are written 
simultaneously.

We've 
done several tests of "our" infrastructure, and it has worked 
well.
We 
have a corporate test coming up soon.hope that goes as 
well.
The 
procedures and everything will be the same, so it should go fine, there will 
just be 20 times more people involved in testing their stuff, so it will be much 
more hectic.

Paul

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  -Original Message-From: Sponsler, 
  Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 31, 2006 1:26 
  PMTo: Paul Keating; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Disaster 
  Recovery Site
  Paul,
  
  What is ITC? You say your tapes are replicated 
  using ITC
  
  That sounds like a decent plan. Have you tested a 
  DR event, and has it worked out alright?
  
  --
  Mike Sponsler
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Northrop 
Grumman


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