RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-27 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Greenberg, Katherine A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 April 2006 18:08 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please] OK boys, (and girls, altho we seem to be generally keeping our

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-27 Thread WEAVER, Simon
PROTECTED] Sent: 26 April 2006 21:56 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please] Hi Simon I suspect you are right but another reason to move to hot catalog backups is in the 6.0 release notes:- End of Life Notification for Catalog 1

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-27 Thread WEAVER, Simon
] -Original Message- From: Wilkinson, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 April 2006 07:57 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please] 0n Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 08:55:55AM +1200, Mansell, Richard wrote: End of Life

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread WEAVER, Simon
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 April 2006 06:06 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please] FWIW, in NBU 6 hot catalogue backups are the recommended way to go and a pool called CatalogBackup gets created especially for that purpose. We therefore

Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Dave Markham
I am surprised by the number of people using a single volume pool for data backups. What about mixed retentions on media? The way i do things is like this :- Have a daily, weekly, monthly, offsite, logs tape pools ( as well as netbackup, and none obviously ) Now whatever the policy and file

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Paul Keating
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon 2) Each Policy has its own Volume Pool OMG!! How many policies? You don't multiplex at all? Sounds like you also have only one client per policy 3) Easier to manage tapes (ie: Only

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Paul Keating [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 April 2006 13:20 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Paul Keating [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 April 2006 13:51 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please] Paul, note the word possibly in my last

Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:49:25AM -0400, bob944 wrote: Alex, you'll get a dozen recommendations. This is the right one. :-) What is best practice with regards to Volume Pools ? We are thinking of using a single Volume Pool for all of our data tapes. Is

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Paul Keating
-Original Message- From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It may or may not be a problem, but if 1 1/2 tapes are used for a policy with a 2 week retention and then a 2nd policy comes along and uses the remainder of that 1/2 tape with a retention of 2 months, that tape

Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:57:48PM +0930, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:49:25AM -0400, bob944 wrote: Alex, you'll get a dozen recommendations. This is the right one. :-) What is best practice with regards to Volume Pools ?

Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:49:25AM -0400, bob944 wrote: - - Customer privacy. Do you have two clients whose data should not be mixed? Army and Navy pools, then. Related to this is restricting access to a pool to a specified host (media server) if there's a Really Good

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Paul Keating
] On Behalf Of Wilkinson, Alex Sent: April 26, 2006 10:08 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please] Is it possible to restrict a subset of users to a particular Volume Pool ? Or only a media server ? -aW

RE:[Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread bob944
Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am surprised by the number of people using a single volume pool for data backups. What about mixed retentions on media? What about them? NetBackup *never* puts different retentions on a tape unless you force it to with the MULTIPLE_RETENTIONS_PER_MEDIA

Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Wayne T Smith
KISS = Keep It Simple, Stupid! It's easy to over-manage NetBackup, because it lets you. I recommend that you keep things simple, and deviate from the simple when it's evident that you should. If the NetBackup pool contains all of your assigned tapes and the Scratch pool contains all of

Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Bob Stump
WOW lots of threads... I didn't read them all but I do have a suggestion. Place tapes that have had a read/write errors or were frozen into a temporary pool until they can be checked out. The pool name - cesspool Bob StumpIncorrigible punster -- Do not incorrige "Wilkinson, Alex" [EMAIL

Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Wayne T Smith
Wilkinson, Alex wrote, in part, on 4/26/2006 9:27 AM: 1. You say tapes with errors will be moved to the none pool. I was under the impression they would be 'frozen' and left in their orginating Volume Pool ? NetBackup never moves tapes to NONE. You are right that a frozen tape is an

Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Wayne T Smith
Dave Markham wrote, in part, on 4/26/2006 5:28 AM: I am surprised by the number of people using a single volume pool for data backups. What about mixed retentions on media? My feeling is that not many shops mix retentions on a tape volume. I don't, so maybe that's why. ;-) If you decide

Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Dave Markham
I think that my words have been taken out of context. I know you cant and shouldn't mix retentions on media which is why i find it hard that people use 1 media pool for all backups. From that i would assume they have the same retention for all backups. This in my opinion which is only my opinion

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Paul Keating
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please] I think that my words have been taken out of context. I know you cant and shouldn't mix retentions on media which is why i find it hard that people use 1 media pool for all

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Paul Keating
Mistakenly hit ctrl+enter when I meant to ctrl+V Please read down... I don't believe your words were taken out of context, as even re-reading your follow-up, I'm interpretting your words the same way. I think you are misunderstanding what netbackup does...it DOES NOT mix retentions on a

Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Dave Markham
Agree. IMO simple for small to medium sized solutions is cumulative incremental backups daily and full backups at weekends and at month end with an offsite daily if required. This then defines sensibly you should have 4 different retentions.. dailys 1 to 2 weeks retention. Reason: whats the point

Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Dave Markham
I know exactly how it works im afraid and was posing the question to people who use 1 tape pool. What about mixed retentions? To explain further i meant what about having different retentions on the same media which you would need to turn on in order to have full backups incremental etc to use

Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Dave Markham
Correct. Unless you have mix retentions on media set which i think everyone has agreed is a bad idea. Your description below uses 4 tapes ( if one tape per backup is used ) which are all associated to the same volume pool. IMO this is bad practice. I do think it explains it well to the person

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Major, Rusty
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:35 AM To: Paul Keating Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please] Correct. Unless you have mix retentions on media set which i think

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-26 Thread Mansell, Richard
to user with the new online catalog backup. Regards Richard -Original Message- From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2006 6:59 pm To: Mansell, Richard; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please

[Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-25 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
Hi all, What is best practice with regards to Volume Pools ? We are thinking of using a single Volume Pool for all of our data tapes. Is it good practice to use the Netbackup Volume pool for this situation ? -aW ___ Veritas-bu maillist -

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-25 Thread Mansell, Richard
and a VaultData pool. Regards Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob944 Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2006 4:49 pm To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; 'Wilkinson, Alex' Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please] Alex

RE: [Veritas-bu] Volume Pools [recommendations please]

2006-04-25 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wilkinson, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 April 2006 01:47 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Volume