Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBakcup Service Set to Automatic 6.5.3 SAN CLIENT

2009-08-07 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Not exactly - I get "timeout connectiing to SAN Client Service" or words to that affect. Setting to Manual stops this :-) Simon -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jim H Sent: Thursday, August

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBakcup Service Set to Automatic 6.5.3 SAN CLIENT

2009-08-07 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
I would rather set to Manual, because if a Service is disabled, it can still report an event in the event logs. And still cause questions for IT Admins Simon From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBakcup Service Set to Automatic 6.5.3 SAN CLIENT

2009-08-07 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Thank you John Simon From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of John Hink Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:14 PM To: Ed Wilts; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBak

[Veritas-bu] Netbackup media type behavior

2009-08-07 Thread Schaefer, Harry
Does NBU have the capability to use multiple media types in the same drive based on policy? My example is a Sun T1 drive. There are two different types of tape available. A standard tape that holds 1TB/2TB compressed & the Sport version which holds about 250gb/500gb. Depending on the data bein

[Veritas-bu] NetBackup vs. The Rest of the World

2009-08-07 Thread spaldam
Thanks for everyone's response on DPM. I agree it looks like a great tool for backing up remote offices, and possibly even other Microsoft specific applications like SQL, SharePoint, and Exchange. My real problem though, is that we are talking about using it for our entire data center, or at

[Veritas-bu] NetBakcup Service Set to Automatic 6.5.3 SAN CLIENT

2009-08-07 Thread spaldam
You can use bar-code rules to put different types of tapes into different Volume Pools based on their labels, but you only get a single "scratch" pool. If you want to use Scratch pools, you have to do it based on media type/density settings. However, to use the two different tape technologies

[Veritas-bu] Thomas Schulz/DE/ConSors ist außer Haus.

2009-08-07 Thread Thomas . Schulz
Ich werde ab 07.08.2009 nicht im Büro sein. Ich kehre zurück am 09.08.2009. Ich werde Ihre Nachrichten nach meiner Rückkehr beantworten. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/verit

[Veritas-bu] Tape Robot Comparison

2009-08-07 Thread Steve Jenkins
Looking for info on comparisons between tape robot technology. We've been using a Sun/Storagetek L700 for about seven years. It's been running spectacularly. We're getting ready to add a second robot and we're looking at a Sun/Storagetek SL3000 with eight LTO4 drives. My CIO asked me if I had l

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Service Set to Automatic 6.5.3 SAN CLIENT

2009-08-07 Thread John Hink
I looked into this a bit more, that error isn't exactly what you should see, like Mr. Hilton said it should just be "starting" and "stopping". I played around with trying to get a similar error but I was not able to. What version of windows are you running? John Hink Staff Tech Support Enginee

Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape Robot Comparison

2009-08-07 Thread william . d . brown
We did a similar exercise a few years ago to consider a successor to the L700. I looked in detail at a number of libraries available at the time, and we chose what was then the ADIC Scalar i2000 - now Quantum. We had collated reqirements and scored them before asking for information from ven

Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape Robot Comparison

2009-08-07 Thread Justin Piszcz
The iscaler 2000(?) is supposed to be a competitive product and IBM also has some libraries as well. (I was in a similar situation). Went SL500(s) due to their expandibility. The price diff between SL8500 and SL3000 is not a lot if you are building big systems. On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Steve Jenk

[Veritas-bu] NETBACKUP WITH ENCRYPTION OPTION

2009-08-07 Thread apatoliya
Hi Does Any one having any Idea how tapes usages will increase after enable the client side encryption ??? Right now I am using Client side Encryption and when i enable that thing my Tape usages increase drastically so i am not confirm how many percentage will increase after enable the encryp

Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape Robot Comparison

2009-08-07 Thread Rusty.Major
Steve, We have several libries, including an SL3000, a few SL8500s and i2000s, among others. The SL3000 and i2000 have been rock solid. The SL3000 offers an additional longbot for redundancy, which is nice if you can afford it. The i2000 does not have this option. Either way, I think you'll be

Re: [Veritas-bu] NETBACKUP WITH ENCRYPTION OPTION

2009-08-07 Thread Len Boyle
Hello, Unless you also enable client compression when you enable the client side encryption, you lose the tape compression. How much you lose depends on how much compression you had. len -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@ma

[Veritas-bu] NETBACKUP WITH ENCRYPTION OPTION

2009-08-07 Thread apatoliya
Hi I never used compression for tapes +-- |This was sent by apatoli...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___

Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape Robot Comparison

2009-08-07 Thread Jonathan Dyck
We have L700's and SL3000's here onsite. My experience with the SL3000: - Has a MAP issue where when my robot is rebooted, unless the fibre is pulled out of the robotic controller, the MAP will never come online. If the robot is allowed to boot fully, then the fibre is put back in, the MAP f

[Veritas-bu] Vault catalog backup hanging - limit reached - queued

2009-08-07 Thread Christopher Romano
Hi. I am running Netbackup 6.5.3 on Solaris, and I occasionally see that the Catalog Backup hangs and then when Vault kicks off it's catalog backup, it just gets queued. The queue reason is limit reached for maxjobs. Canceling the original hung catalog backup does nothing...the Vault catal

Re: [Veritas-bu] NETBACKUP WITH ENCRYPTION OPTION

2009-08-07 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 03:35:14PM -0400, apatoliya wrote: > I never used compression for tapes You disabled it explicitly? It's on by default at the hardware level. Encrypted data is the same size as non-encrypted data. But after encryption the data is incompressible. -- Darren

[Veritas-bu] NETBACKUP WITH ENCRYPTION OPTION

2009-08-07 Thread apatoliya
Thanks for reply But why every time when i was enable encryption the tape usage increased that i know with encryption throughput will degrade somewhat. Is there something i am missing to configure ??? even i open a call with symantec they doesn't having information regarding this issue. +---

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup media type behavior

2009-08-07 Thread Dean
I have this problem with 2 different capacity IBM 3592 media types. I couldn't work out any way to get NetBackup to use 2 different media types on one drive. Luckily I have enough tape drives that I was able to set some drives to HCART, and some to HCART2. It means I lose a certain amount of flexi

Re: [Veritas-bu] NETBACKUP WITH ENCRYPTION OPTION

2009-08-07 Thread Daniel Otto
When you use NBU client side encryption it removes any repeatable patterns that the tape drive hardware compression works off. So there is nothing to compress and so you end up using more tape space. The only way to get around this issue is to also run with client side compression since NBU will co

Re: [Veritas-bu] NETBACKUP WITH ENCRYPTION OPTION

2009-08-07 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Daniel Otto wrote: > When you use NBU client side encryption it removes any repeatable > patterns that the tape drive hardware compression works off. So there is > nothing to compress and so you end up using more tape space. > The only way to get around this issue

[Veritas-bu] NetBakcup Service Set to Automatic 6.5.3 SAN CLIENT

2009-08-07 Thread spaldam
Make all you're drives HCART, and all your tapes HCART, then they become interchangeable. Of course you'll then have to find some other method of tracking witch tapes are of what type, such as volume pools and bar-code labels. Dean wrote: > I have this problem with 2 different capacity IBM 35

[Veritas-bu] Vault catalog backup hanging - limit reached - queued

2009-08-07 Thread spaldam
I've got the same problem with my catalog backup occasionally hanging with 6.5.3 running o Solaris. I worked around it by until no jobs are running and then doing an "nbrbutil -resetall". You may then have to use robtest to manually un-load and tapes left in drives. This typically happens be

[Veritas-bu] Vault catalog backup hanging - limit reached - queued

2009-08-07 Thread spaldam
I have the same problem with Hot catalog backups hanging with 6.5.3 on Solaris 10. It's supposedly fixed in 6.5.4; I'll know by the end of next week if it truly is. I work around it by waiting until all backups are done, and killing the hung jobs, then doing an "nbrbutil -resetall". After tha

[Veritas-bu] Tape Robot Comparison

2009-08-07 Thread spaldam
I love the L700's, but after doing a lot of research last year I found that Storage-Tek was falling behind the technologies. The front runners for me was SpectraLogic, and Quantum/ADIC. We ended up with an Quantum i2000 with 10 LTO4's and 200 slots with plenty of room for future expansion by