Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Backups....

2014-03-27 Thread Neil Conner
I’ve had lots of success restoring Windows 2003 and 2008 file servers using 
this simple method (all servers were HP Proliant).   Haven’t tried Windows 2012 
yet…

Assuming you’re restoring to the same hardware, and that you backed up the 
system state...
1. Install same version of Windows with the same partition sizes (or larger) 
and the same computer name and IP address
2. Install the same service pack revision (no need to worry about patches).
3. Do not join this new Windows build to the domain.
4. Install the same version of NetBackup client
5. Restore everything with option to overwrite files.
6. Reboot.
7. As long as the computer account has not expired from Active Directory, you 
should be able to login with a domain account; if not, login with a local 
account and leave the domain and join it again. 

I have done this several times with no problems, but here is the official word 
from Symantec:
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH56473

hth,
Neil

On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:30 AM, Bluejay Adametz blue...@fujifilm.com wrote:

 OKFirst let me say that I'm sorrybut I'm not a Windows dude. I live, 
 eat, and sleep in the Unix/Linux world.
 
 You're not alone... I'm in basically the same situation.
 
 We haven't been successful in the past in backing up Windows boxes and being 
 able to restore them back to the way there were when the last full backup 
 was taken.
 
 Windows is notoriously difficult to recover in it's entirety. Near as
 I can tell, there are two options to effect a full recovery from just
 backups:
 
 a. Install the required version of Windows and all associated patches,
 updates, and software, then restore the data from backups.
 
 b. Use NetBackup's Bare Metal Restore functionality (which used to
 be a separately-licensed product, but is now included). This requires
 a bunch more infrastructure, but does work.
 
 - Bluejay Adametz
 
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 same as climbing a tree to catch a fish. - Chinese Proverb
 
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[Veritas-bu] Windows Backups....

2014-03-24 Thread Dennis Peacock
OKFirst let me say that I'm sorrybut I'm not a Windows dude. I live, 
eat, and sleep in the Unix/Linux world. I have a couple of Windows backup 
clients that my customer wants backed up to include system state (or whatever 
they call it now days).
Master server is Solaris 10 box running NBU 7.5.0.6

We haven't been successful in the past in backing up Windows boxes and being 
able to restore them back to the way there were when the last full backup was 
taken. I realize that this may spawn more questions than answers, but I'm 
asking anyway.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Backups....

2014-03-24 Thread Bluejay Adametz
 OKFirst let me say that I'm sorrybut I'm not a Windows dude. I live, 
 eat, and sleep in the Unix/Linux world.

You're not alone... I'm in basically the same situation.

 We haven't been successful in the past in backing up Windows boxes and being 
 able to restore them back to the way there were when the last full backup was 
 taken.

Windows is notoriously difficult to recover in it's entirety. Near as
I can tell, there are two options to effect a full recovery from just
backups:

a. Install the required version of Windows and all associated patches,
updates, and software, then restore the data from backups.

b. Use NetBackup's Bare Metal Restore functionality (which used to
be a separately-licensed product, but is now included). This requires
a bunch more infrastructure, but does work.

 - Bluejay Adametz

To talk much and arrive nowhere is the
same as climbing a tree to catch a fish. - Chinese Proverb

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[Veritas-bu] Windows Backups....

2014-03-24 Thread Dennis Peacock
Well I can't do BMR setup every time I hope to recover a Windows box. We have 
HUNDREDS of backup clients spanning Unix, Linux, and Windows. Maybe hundreds is 
a bit of an understatement because I do know of at least 2,000 backup clients 
in our world here.

To setup an infrastructure to BMR any of the Windows boxes would probably cost 
us into the millions of dollars. Just not an option with as large of a locale 
as we are.

I will ask the Windows engineers to see what they prefer we do. Last time we 
did a DR with them, they backed up the System State to a file on the server and 
we backed that up via Netbackup as part of the backup work before the DR. 
(Disaster Recovery).

Thanks for your response. I appreciate it.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Backups....

2014-03-24 Thread Wayne T Smith
There's at least one knowledge-base article on how to do that, but I don't
have its number handy.  :-(

My too-old NetBackup experience (i.e., I expect there to be better/newer
info now), is that if you are restoring to the same hardware ...

   - install Windows, networking and NetBackup to a separate partition.
   - restore your Windows partition stuff.
   - switch back to booting the newly restored partition.
   - restore other partitions.

I'm sure this is too simplified, but at least it gives you the clue that
you cannot restore to an active Windows boot partition nor to the active
registry.   Restoring to different hardware also gets dicey quickly.  There
are probably caveats if this is/was a domain controller.

I always tell people coming to me for their Windows backup:  have the data
you need backed up on a separate partition and be prepared to reinstall and
reconfigure when you have a failure of your Windows partition.

... sort of like when your mother's machine fails and you get to buy a new
machine, reinstall/configure apps, and restore data from Carbonite (or
whatever).

Cheers, Wayne (NOT a Windows expert)
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Backups....

2014-03-24 Thread Nikos Apostolou
Additionally to this one, I prefer the BMR Option.
Imagine the effort to install a new machine (OS, patch level etc) in order to 
perform a full restore.

Using BMR, you need a server to host the boot cds, PXE to be faster and one 
boot image of every OS and that's it.

You do not need full OS, but only boot disks.

Nikos Apostolou
Systems  Security Engineer

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dennis Peacock
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 4:42 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows Backups

Well I can't do BMR setup every time I hope to recover a Windows box. We have 
HUNDREDS of backup clients spanning Unix, Linux, and Windows. Maybe hundreds is 
a bit of an understatement because I do know of at least 2,000 backup clients 
in our world here.

To setup an infrastructure to BMR any of the Windows boxes would probably cost 
us into the millions of dollars. Just not an option with as large of a locale 
as we are.

I will ask the Windows engineers to see what they prefer we do. Last time we 
did a DR with them, they backed up the System State to a file on the server and 
we backed that up via Netbackup as part of the backup work before the DR. 
(Disaster Recovery).

Thanks for your response. I appreciate it.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Backups....

2014-03-24 Thread Chapman, Scott
BMR doesn't support EFI before 7.6.0.1 though...

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Nikos Apostolou
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 1:22 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Backups

Additionally to this one, I prefer the BMR Option.
Imagine the effort to install a new machine (OS, patch level etc) in order to 
perform a full restore.

Using BMR, you need a server to host the boot cds, PXE to be faster and one 
boot image of every OS and that's it.

You do not need full OS, but only boot disks.

Nikos Apostolou
Systems  Security Engineer

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dennis Peacock
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 4:42 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows Backups

Well I can't do BMR setup every time I hope to recover a Windows box. We have 
HUNDREDS of backup clients spanning Unix, Linux, and Windows. Maybe hundreds is 
a bit of an understatement because I do know of at least 2,000 backup clients 
in our world here.

To setup an infrastructure to BMR any of the Windows boxes would probably cost 
us into the millions of dollars. Just not an option with as large of a locale 
as we are.

I will ask the Windows engineers to see what they prefer we do. Last time we 
did a DR with them, they backed up the System State to a file on the server and 
we backed that up via Netbackup as part of the backup work before the DR. 
(Disaster Recovery).

Thanks for your response. I appreciate it.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Backups....

2014-03-24 Thread Nikos Apostolou
Hello Dennis,

I have found the following:
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH56473

It's not for solaris but it has the restore procedure in details.
Actually, I have not test it. I have used BMR for a couple of times (hopefully 
for test reason)


Nikos Apostolou
Systems  Security Engineer


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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 4:11 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows Backups

OKFirst let me say that I'm sorrybut I'm not a Windows dude. I live, 
eat, and sleep in the Unix/Linux world. I have a couple of Windows backup 
clients that my customer wants backed up to include system state (or whatever 
they call it now days).
Master server is Solaris 10 box running NBU 7.5.0.6

We haven't been successful in the past in backing up Windows boxes and being 
able to restore them back to the way there were when the last full backup was 
taken. I realize that this may spawn more questions than answers, but I'm 
asking anyway.

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[Veritas-bu] Windows Backups Restored to Linux Boxes

2007-02-16 Thread Jones, Courtenay
Enviroment: NBU 6.0 MP4 on Windows 2K3 machine
 
We have a fairly large VMware shop in house for all of Windows boxes. To
back up these VM images, we end up taking tarballs of the VMDK files,
and dropping them to a Windows boxe with several large attached luns.
This works flawlessly...
 
But, we are going to DR here shortly, and we were hoping to just drop
the tarballs directly onto LINUX boxes running ESX. I can restore the
tarballs, but the restore comes up incomplete.
 
I see the following errors in our logs:
 
08:47:16 2/16/2007: Restore Started
 
08:47:17 (23828.xxx) Restore job id 23828 will require 1 image.
08:47:17 (23828.xxx) Media id R00086 is needed for the restore.
08:47:17 (23828.xxx) Media id R00081 is needed for the restore.
 
08:47:54 (23828.001) Restoring from image created 2/12/2007 2:44:16 PM
08:48:03 (23828.001) INF - Waiting for positioning of media id R00086 on
server sbs09932bu002.usncraleigh9901.int.wolseley.com for reading.
08:48:53 (23828.001) INF - Beginning restore from server
sbs09932bu002.usncraleigh9901.int.wolseley.com to client
sbs09932vi001.carolinaholdings.internal.
09:04:23 (23828.001) Windows security info file type 'L' for
.SeCuRiTy.106, ignored...
09:04:23 (23828.001)
/W/snaps/sbs09932vi004.carolinaholdings.internal/sbs09932vm031_11.tgz
09:04:23 (23828.001) Changed
/W/snaps/sbs09932vi004.carolinaholdings.internal/sbs09932vm031_11.tgz to
/restored/sbs09932vm031_11.tgz
09:06:20 (23828.001) Unexpected EOF on archive file
09:06:20 (23828.001) (23828.001) INF - TAR EXITING WITH STATUS = 0
09:06:20 (23828.001) (23828.001) INF - TAR RESTORED 0 OF 1 FILES
SUCCESSFULLY
09:06:20 (23828.001) (23828.001) INF - TAR KEPT 0 EXISTING FILES
09:06:20 (23828.001) (23828.001) INF - TAR PARTIALLY RESTORED 0 FILES
 
09:06:21 (23828.001) Status of restore from image created 2/12/2007
2:44:16 PM = the restore failed to recover the requested files
 
09:06:24 (23828.xxx) INF - Status = the restore failed to recover the
requested files.
 
When I try to untar the tarballs, I see the following errors:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] restored]# tar -zxfv sbs09932vm031_11.tgz
tar (child): v: Cannot open: No such file or directory
tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: sbs09932vm031_11.tgz: Not found in archive
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] restored]#

 
Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
 
 

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-cj
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Backups Restored to Linux Boxes

2007-02-16 Thread Jones, Courtenay
That was a typo on my part - Forgive me, I am going on about 3 hours  of
sleep.

We figured out the solution - we backup the tarballs that are currently
sitting on a windows box with a standard policy. We will be moving the
luns that are tied to that Windows box and shifting them over to be
attached to our Linux boxes.

Thanks for the help... 


Regards,

-cj
Courtenay Jones





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From: Sander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:40 PM
To: Jones, Courtenay
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Backups Restored to Linux Boxes

Jones, Courtenay wrote (ao):
But, we are going to DR here shortly, and we were hoping to just
drop
the tarballs directly onto LINUX boxes running ESX. I can restore
the
tarballs, but the restore comes up incomplete.

FWIW, ESX runs on top of the iron, not on top of Linux.

I see the following errors in our logs:
 
08:47:16 2/16/2007: Restore Started

Do you also get errors in the backup log? Or are you sure the tarballs
get mangled during the restore?

When I try to untar the tarballs, I see the following errors:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] restored]# tar -zxfv sbs09932vm031_11.tgz
tar (child): v: Cannot open: No such file or directory

You are trying to untar file 'v' ..

tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: sbs09932vm031_11.tgz: Not found in archive

.. and extracting sbs09932vm031_11.tgz from it.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Can you try with 'tar xf sbs09932vm031_11.tgz' ?

How big are your tarballs and the VMDK files they include? And to what
filesystem are you recovering?

With kind regards, Sander

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