Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Question - Distribution of Backups

2010-03-24 Thread Jonathan Dyck
Correctly configuring a VTL setup to be "optimized", there's more than a
complicated answer out there... If I were you, I'd do something along
the lines of the following:

Assumptions,  in this example you'd have 3 VTLs, 6 media servers...
- each individual VTL has roughly the same throughput capability (ie:
they can all sustain 400 MB/s simultaneously).
- you have an evenly distributed number of media servers you can assign
"per VTL" (ie: you have 3 VTLs and 6 generic media servers, whatever
type, you assign 2 media servers drives from 1 VTL).  Each of these
media servers can pump through the same amount of data (ie: 200 MB/s
sustained)
- you don't need maximum drive availability, you need maximum drive
efficiency 
- you're able to divvy up you "data types" in roughly equal amounts (ie:
In this example, you'd have x3 data types,  like Exchange data, Unix
data, Windows data, structured data, unstructured, etc. Etc.,  however
you define it)

What I'd do,
- for each VTL, assign an equal amount of drives to the two media
servers that will be using it
- create one storage unit group per VTL, round-robin which storage unit
within the group gets assigned (so you'll flip-flop between media
servers)
- repeat for all your VTLs/media servers
- assign 1 data type "per storage unit group".  So if your Exchange is
1/3 of your total full backup, assign your all NBU policies that backup
Exchange to the same storage unit group.
- make sure all media servers are busy an equal amount of time / are
pumping through roughly the same amount during a full backup window (I
like to "assume" incremental aren't my biggest problem, which is usually
the case)

Hopefully in this scenario, you'd have your best dedupe ratio per VTL
(so least amount of storage used), you'd have your best throughput per
VTL (because you've optimized your dedupe VTL for reading, not writing,
because most of your blocks are deduped and not actually written right?
;-) and your media servers should be roughly busy for an equivalent
amount of time, so you're not "idling" on any VTL throughout the
weekend.

Nice "problem" to have there,  with the multiple VTLs.

Cheers.



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We have multiple VTL's and chose to use them as a Storage Unit Group.
They are capable of deduplication.  The vendor states that the amount of
data/VTL increases the dedupe time and we are struggling to complete
this process.  Supposedly the time to dedupe has nothing to do with the
dedupe ratio - it is simply how much data that resides in a VTL (post
Dedupe + new data).  I see 2 VTL management philosophies and would like
your ideas for a 3rd or a hybrid idea.


The easiest to manage is to spread the data across all VTL's using NBU's
balancing algorythms.  However, even after dedupe processing, I expect
that over time the full backup will exist in every VTL.  Since total
storage consumed has an impact on the dedupe process, I want to find an
alternative.  That's where I need your help.

I've been thinking of the old college question of what is the best way
to fill a jar with rocks, pebbles, & sand.  Spread out your 1 TB Rocks
equally, Fill with 500 GB pebbles, and then define where the remaining
sand goes?

Storage Unit Groups don't appear to be the best fit for VTL's if you
want efficiency.

I would love to hear your feedback and ideas !!

Brian

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[Veritas-bu] VTL Question - Distribution of Backups

2010-03-23 Thread briandiven
We have multiple VTL's and chose to use them as a Storage Unit Group.
They are capable of deduplication.  The vendor states that the amount of
data/VTL increases the dedupe time and we are struggling to complete
this process.  Supposedly the time to dedupe has nothing to do with the
dedupe ratio - it is simply how much data that resides in a VTL (post
Dedupe + new data).  I see 2 VTL management philosophies and would like
your ideas for a 3rd or a hybrid idea.


The easiest to manage is to spread the data across all VTL's using NBU's
balancing algorythms.  However, even after dedupe processing, I expect
that over time the full backup will exist in every VTL.  Since total
storage consumed has an impact on the dedupe process, I want to find an
alternative.  That's where I need your help.

I've been thinking of the old college question of what is the best way
to fill a jar with rocks, pebbles, & sand.  Spread out your 1 TB Rocks
equally, Fill with 500 GB pebbles, and then define where the remaining
sand goes?

Storage Unit Groups don't appear to be the best fit for VTL's if you
want efficiency.

I would love to hear your feedback and ideas !!

Brian

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