Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

2012-07-15 Thread Anurag Sharma

Sri, Make sure you keep both old and new on same version and patch level. Word 
of advice, 7.5 upgrade is not so simple it involves a stage call image 
migration.
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> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:27:43 -0700
> Subject: [Veritas-bu]  Netbackup 7.1 Migration
> 
> Here's the plan, please correct me if wrong:
> 
> 1. Install NBU  on new server and configure all the policies,devices from 
> scratch. 
> 2. take catalog backup on old master server and stop NBU services.
> 3. Use recover without import option and import all data tapes from old 
> master to new master.
> 4. The NBU services are not running on old master server, but since that is a 
> production server we need to backup the data on it. So configure old master 
> as client in new master.
> 
> Versions:
> ---
> Old master server: NBU 7.1 Standard
> New master server: NBU 7.5 Enterprise
> 
> Please advice, will there be any compatibility issues?
> 
> Thanks & Regards
> Sri
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

2012-07-10 Thread Rusty Major
This option will work, technically speaking, but you may need to buy
additional licenses to be in compliance.

Thank you,
Rusty

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

Thank You all for your replies. I have to change the hostname and IP
address, there is no other option. We currently have installed the master
server on a production server. Its not a dedicated backup server. The new
server we are planning is a dedicated NBU master server. So the hostname
will change from the current server :-(

I think i would go with Jeff' idea of building new server from scratch and
importing media from old server to new server in case of restore requests.


Can we use the option of keeping current server and as well as new server
till the data on the current tapes expire?
Remove all the tapes from current server and keep it write protected. Stop
the NBU services on current server. Whenever a restore request comes, stop
the services on new server and restore data from old server.

Thanks
Sri

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

2012-07-10 Thread Lightner, Jeff
Just to be clear - we kept the old master running so it could continue to do 
vaulting reports to recall media from offsite as they expired.   If you're not 
doing vaulting this may not be a consideration for you.

We didn't do the 1 year Jonathan suggests - our intent was to do 3 months since 
most of our monthlies expire in that time frame.  In actuality it ended up 
being more than 6 months but that was just because we were slammed.   In our 
case we wanted to make the old master a media server for the new environment 
due to disk replications/backups we did there.  (It was HP-UX and we couldn't 
do the replications to Linux owing to filesystem/volume manager used on HP-UX 
and not on Linux.)

My question would be if the existing server is a "Production" server how are 
you backing up that "Production" stuff after you switch to the new master?   
That is to say, in our case we didn't have to keep any other app running on the 
old master and were able temporarily to move the disk replication to another 
HP-UX server.  In your case however you need to be concerned with this other 
"Production" stuff.   You can't run the old master as a master for the old 
environment AND as a  client/media server for the new environment as well.





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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:47 AM
To: Kalusche, Dan; VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

We used a variation on this here. We stood up a new master, then waited
1 year for 99% of our images to expire. Then we imported the old media
(SLT) on the new master and duplicated them to new media (LTO). Just keep in 
mind that when you do this, you need to make sure the retentions match on the 
old and new masters. If retention 10 on your old master is infinity and 
retention 10 on the new master is 1 year, the images will only be kept for 1 
year on import.

Good luck!

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Kalusche, Dan
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:18 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

I would think that keeping the current server would be an option for you.
I would have done the same if we didn't have a multitude of images saved to 
infinity...
Our old master would have been around forever, so I just did the migration...
Good Luck!

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srikanth09
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 10:05 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

Thank You all for your replies. I have to change the hostname and IP address, 
there is no other option. We currently have installed the master server on a 
production server. Its not a dedicated backup server.
The new server we are planning is a dedicated NBU master server. So the 
hostname will change from the current server :-(

I think i would go with Jeff' idea of building new server from scratch and 
importing media from old server to new server in case of restore requests.

Can we use the option of keeping current server and as well as new server till 
the data on the current tapes expire?
Remove all the tapes from current server and keep it write protected.
Stop the NBU services on current server. Whenever a restore request comes, stop 
the services on new server and restore data from old server.


Thanks
Sri

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

2012-07-10 Thread Martin, Jonathan
We used a variation on this here. We stood up a new master, then waited
1 year for 99% of our images to expire. Then we imported the old media
(SLT) on the new master and duplicated them to new media (LTO). Just
keep in mind that when you do this, you need to make sure the retentions
match on the old and new masters. If retention 10 on your old master is
infinity and retention 10 on the new master is 1 year, the images will
only be kept for 1 year on import.

Good luck!

-Jonathan

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
Kalusche, Dan
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:18 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

I would think that keeping the current server would be an option for
you.
I would have done the same if we didn't have a multitude of images saved
to infinity...
Our old master would have been around forever, so I just did the
migration...
Good Luck! 

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
srikanth09
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 10:05 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

Thank You all for your replies. I have to change the hostname and IP
address, there is no other option. We currently have installed the
master server on a production server. Its not a dedicated backup server.
The new server we are planning is a dedicated NBU master server. So the
hostname will change from the current server :-(

I think i would go with Jeff' idea of building new server from scratch
and importing media from old server to new server in case of restore
requests. 

Can we use the option of keeping current server and as well as new
server till the data on the current tapes expire?
Remove all the tapes from current server and keep it write protected.
Stop the NBU services on current server. Whenever a restore request
comes, stop the services on new server and restore data from old server.


Thanks
Sri

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

2012-07-10 Thread Kalusche, Dan
I would think that keeping the current server would be an option for you.
I would have done the same if we didn't have a multitude of images saved to 
infinity...
Our old master would have been around forever, so I just did the migration...
Good Luck! 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of srikanth09
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 10:05 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

Thank You all for your replies. I have to change the hostname and IP address, 
there is no other option. We currently have installed the master server on a 
production server. Its not a dedicated backup server. The new server we are 
planning is a dedicated NBU master server. So the hostname will change from the 
current server :-(

I think i would go with Jeff' idea of building new server from scratch and 
importing media from old server to new server in case of restore requests. 

Can we use the option of keeping current server and as well as new server till 
the data on the current tapes expire?
Remove all the tapes from current server and keep it write protected. Stop the 
NBU services on current server. Whenever a restore request comes, stop the 
services on new server and restore data from old server. 

Thanks
Sri

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

2012-07-09 Thread Lightner, Jeff
What we did was to simply build a new master with new name/IP and continue to 
run the old master along side it allowing natural aging of policies/recalls 
from offsite storage for vaulting for 3-4 months then we shutdown the old 
server.  This means for any older backups we'd want to restore we'd have to 
import the tape into the new master.   We chose to do it this way because old 
master was controlling a library with LTO1 drives whereas new environment was 
mostly LTO5 which won't read LTO1s anyway so we also have a couple of LTO3s in 
case we need to import one of the LTO1s.

The research I did at the time indicated there really is NO good way to use new 
name/IP with old Catalog without paying ransom to Symantec.   I saw comments 
from some then that they had tried to do it anyway and although it initially 
appeared to work months later they began having issues related to the attempt.  
 You'll find folks that say they've done it but if you look carefully at those 
old posts you'll see it was mostly for NBU versions 3.x and nothing newer.





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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Kalusche, Dan
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 8:09 AM
To: mja...@guesswho.com; VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

I also followed this path - same name/same IP.
The old server was left on the network while the hot catalog ran.  When that 
finished, I removed the old master from the network, plugged in the new master, 
restored the catalog and away we went.
In reality, it was fairly painless.
I heard a lot of bad things about changing the name/IP so I didn't want to go 
there.

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mja...@guesswho.com
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 4:57 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

The plan I went with was to build the new hardware 1st and give it the same 
name and IP address as the original master server. Install the same NetBackup 
version as the old server. Complete a hot catalog backup on the old server, 
then take it offline. Bring the new master server online and restore the 
catalog backup. Then upgrade the NetBackup version. This path is approved by 
Symantec and does not involve Symantec personnel in any fashion.

The media servers will recognize the new master immediately because it has the 
same DNS name and IP address, and there will be very minimal downtime.

Mike

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of srikanth09
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:06 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

Hello Everybody.

We have implemented Netbackup 7.1 for backups. We have 1 master 
server(standard) on Solaris-10 and 12 clients(standard). We are going to 
upgrade the master server to Enterprise and one of the clients to Enterprise.

Once this is completed, we have to migrate the master server to another 
physical server. The physical server has all the hardware same as the existing 
hardware.
The hostname and IP address will change.

I read through the below TNs:
http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH31385
http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH77448

It says, "Moving a Master Server to a new machine involving a host name change"
Netbackup master hostname is deeply embedded in each part of Netbackup config 
and EMM database.
Only a trained Consulting Partner can change this hostname.

Can anyone please help me perform this migration without involving Symantec 
consultants.
It would be very helpful if anyone could provide the steps needed to perform 
the migration or if any document is available.These kind of migrations must be 
done frequently around Netbackup customers so I am hoping there are some 
Netbackup gurus who has performed the migrations and could provide some good 
advice.

Thanks in advance

Regards
Sri

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

2012-07-09 Thread Kalusche, Dan
I also followed this path - same name/same IP.
The old server was left on the network while the hot catalog ran.  When that 
finished, I removed the old master from the network, plugged in the new master, 
restored the catalog and away we went.
In reality, it was fairly painless.
I heard a lot of bad things about changing the name/IP so I didn't want to go 
there. 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
mja...@guesswho.com
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 4:57 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

The plan I went with was to build the new hardware 1st and give it the same 
name and IP address as the original master server. Install the same NetBackup 
version as the old server. Complete a hot catalog backup on the old server, 
then take it offline. Bring the new master server online and restore the 
catalog backup. Then upgrade the NetBackup version. This path is approved by 
Symantec and does not involve Symantec personnel in any fashion. 

The media servers will recognize the new master immediately because it has the 
same DNS name and IP address, and there will be very minimal downtime.

Mike

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of srikanth09
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:06 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

Hello Everybody.

We have implemented Netbackup 7.1 for backups. We have 1 master 
server(standard) on Solaris-10 and 12 clients(standard). We are going to 
upgrade the master server to Enterprise and one of the clients to Enterprise.

Once this is completed, we have to migrate the master server to another 
physical server. The physical server has all the hardware same as the existing 
hardware.
The hostname and IP address will change.

I read through the below TNs:
http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH31385
http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH77448

It says, "Moving a Master Server to a new machine involving a host name change"
Netbackup master hostname is deeply embedded in each part of Netbackup config 
and EMM database.
Only a trained Consulting Partner can change this hostname.

Can anyone please help me perform this migration without involving Symantec 
consultants.
It would be very helpful if anyone could provide the steps needed to perform 
the migration or if any document is available.These kind of migrations must be 
done frequently around Netbackup customers so I am hoping there are some 
Netbackup gurus who has performed the migrations and could provide some good 
advice.

Thanks in advance

Regards
Sri

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

2012-07-07 Thread mjames
The plan I went with was to build the new hardware 1st and give it the same 
name and IP address as the original master server. Install the same NetBackup 
version as the old server. Complete a hot catalog backup on the old server, 
then take it offline. Bring the new master server online and restore the 
catalog backup. Then upgrade the NetBackup version. This path is approved by 
Symantec and does not involve Symantec personnel in any fashion. 

The media servers will recognize the new master immediately because it has the 
same DNS name and IP address, and there will be very minimal downtime.

Mike

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of srikanth09
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:06 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

Hello Everybody.

We have implemented Netbackup 7.1 for backups. We have 1 master 
server(standard) on Solaris-10 and 12 clients(standard). We are going to 
upgrade the master server to Enterprise and one of the clients to Enterprise.

Once this is completed, we have to migrate the master server to another 
physical server. The physical server has all the hardware same as the existing 
hardware.
The hostname and IP address will change.

I read through the below TNs:
http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH31385
http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH77448

It says, "Moving a Master Server to a new machine involving a host name change"
Netbackup master hostname is deeply embedded in each part of Netbackup config 
and EMM database.
Only a trained Consulting Partner can change this hostname.

Can anyone please help me perform this migration without involving Symantec 
consultants.
It would be very helpful if anyone could provide the steps needed to perform 
the migration or if any document is available.These kind of migrations must be 
done frequently around Netbackup customers so I am hoping there are some 
Netbackup gurus who has performed the migrations and could provide some good 
advice.

Thanks in advance

Regards
Sri

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

2012-07-06 Thread Wayne T Smith
I think you need a new plan.

Cheers, Wayne
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