Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

2010-11-15 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
All
trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO!

Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie in with
what I need.

symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description given.

Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media Server with
SSO installed.

I always thought SSO was seperate
Thanks, S.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

2010-11-15 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:42 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) 
simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net wrote:

 trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO!

 Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie in with
 what I need.

 symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description given.

 Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media Server with
 SSO installed.

 I always thought SSO was seperate


SSO is still separate.From the Licensing and Support Services guide:

*NetBackup Shared Storage Option*

NetBackup Shared Storage Option dynamically shares individual tape drives,
standalone or in a robotic tape library,
among multiple NetBackup Enterprise Servers and NDMP NAS systems. These
servers can be a NetBackup Master
Server, NetBackup Media Server, or NetBackup SAN Media Server.

NetBackup Shared Storage Option is licensed per shared tape drive,
regardless of the manufacturer, type of device, or
number of NetBackup Servers attached to the SAN. The NetBackup Shared
Storage Option license is in addition to any
required NetBackup Library Based Tape Drive licenses. If the shared tape
drive is not included in a tape library, then only
a Share Storage Option license is required. The Shared Storage Option is not
needed when used with the NetBackup
Virtual Tape Option.

   .../Ed
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

2010-11-15 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Cheers Ed.
 
What is the difference between tier1 license and tier2?
 
Is there somewhere I can look, because the sales people seem to be more
confused than I am ! 



From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] 
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Subject: Re: Right product



On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:42 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external)
simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net wrote:


trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO!

Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie
in with
what I need.

symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description
given.

Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media
Server with
SSO installed.

I always thought SSO was seperate



SSO is still separate.From the Licensing and Support Services
guide:

NetBackup Shared Storage Option

NetBackup Shared Storage Option dynamically shares individual tape
drives, standalone or in a robotic tape library,
among multiple NetBackup Enterprise Servers and NDMP NAS systems. These
servers can be a NetBackup Master
Server, NetBackup Media Server, or NetBackup SAN Media Server.

NetBackup Shared Storage Option is licensed per shared tape drive,
regardless of the manufacturer, type of device, or
number of NetBackup Servers attached to the SAN. The NetBackup Shared
Storage Option license is in addition to any
required NetBackup Library Based Tape Drive licenses. If the shared tape
drive is not included in a tape library, then only
a Share Storage Option license is required. The Shared Storage Option is
not needed when used with the NetBackup
Virtual Tape Option. 

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

2010-11-15 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Directly off a recent Symantec quote:

SYMC NETBACKUP OPTION SHARED STORAGE OPTION 7.0 XPLAT 1 DRIVE STD LIC

This is a separate line item. Can't help you with the SAN Media server,
we don't use them here. Tier 1 is single CPU / Socket, Tier 2 is dual
CPU / Socket.

-Jonathan

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All
trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO!

Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie in with
what I need.

symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description given.

Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media Server with
SSO installed.

I always thought SSO was seperate
Thanks, S.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

2010-11-15 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:57 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) 
simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net wrote:

  What is the difference between tier1 license and tier2?


For Windows/Linux/SolarisX64 servers, Tier 1 is for 1 processor socket, Tier
2 is 2-3 sockets, Tier 3 is 4-7, and Tier 4 is 8 or more.


 Is there somewhere I can look, because the sales people seem to be more
 confused than I am !


The document is named Licensing and Support Services and your sales people
should be able to get their hands on it.  It's for Symantec employees and
partners only (and I'm neither :)).

   .../Ed
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

2010-11-15 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
I use both. 
I have line items for :  NetBackup Windows Open Shared Storage
And items for:  NetBackup Windows Server SAN Media Server

They are both things I had to order and get a license key to put into the 
console.

(Now my SAN media server is just a media server that backs itself up - which is 
why I wanted the SSO , I do not use Fiber Transport - that is yet another 
license)

As for my keys - I have SSO key
And Remote Media server support keys

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

Directly off a recent Symantec quote:

SYMC NETBACKUP OPTION SHARED STORAGE OPTION 7.0 XPLAT 1 DRIVE STD LIC

This is a separate line item. Can't help you with the SAN Media server,
we don't use them here. Tier 1 is single CPU / Socket, Tier 2 is dual
CPU / Socket.

-Jonathan

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Simon (external)
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To: Ed Wilts; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

All
trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO!

Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie in with
what I need.

symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description given.

Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media Server with
SSO installed.

I always thought SSO was seperate
Thanks, S.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

2010-11-15 Thread Dean
Simon

The SAN Media Server is now called Enterprise Client. Just like the
old SAN Media Server, it can back itself up to the SAN, but no other
clients. The tier is based on CPU type/number, as Johathon and Ed
mentioned.

And yes, SSO is still seperate - licensed per shared tape drive.

(I have been working with NBU for 10 years now, and have *always* had
to advise Veritas/Symantec sales people on how their own licensing
scheme works. I guess some things never change)

Cheers
Dean


On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Martin, Jonathan jmart...@intersil.com wrote:
 Directly off a recent Symantec quote:

 SYMC NETBACKUP OPTION SHARED STORAGE OPTION 7.0 XPLAT 1 DRIVE STD LIC

 This is a separate line item. Can't help you with the SAN Media server,
 we don't use them here. Tier 1 is single CPU / Socket, Tier 2 is dual
 CPU / Socket.

 -Jonathan

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 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

 All
 trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO!

 Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie in with
 what I need.

 symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description given.

 Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media Server with
 SSO installed.

 I always thought SSO was seperate
 Thanks, S.

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