Re: [Veritas-vx] Query 1

2009-02-02 Thread Doug Hughes
i man wrote:

 All,

 I plan to decomission one node which has a VCS and some disks assigned 
 to VXFS.  The node has to be removed from VCS and then reinstall the 
 OS on the system. VXFS has some disks coming from EMC SAN. Do I need 
 to remove the disks from the VXFS before I reinstall the OS so as to 
 not create any problems on the SAN side. I have switched off all the 
 service groups and removed the node from the VCS cluster already. Also 
 would it be wise to uninstall the VXFS from the node ?

you don't need to do anything special for the reinstall. During that 
process, you can explicitly designate which disks get the OS installed 
on them. Removing VxFS is unnecessary.
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Re: [Veritas-vx] Storage Foundation limitations in Windows version?

2009-02-02 Thread Jim Horalek
My memory is Veritas did developed vfx for Windows, but it did not provide a
significant improvement in speed or reliablity over ntfs. Veritas choose not
to bring it to market. Who wants to stand up to Microsoft Marketing anyway.

Jim 

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[mailto:veritas-vx-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Whiffen
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:14 PM
To: Jon Price
Cc: veritas-vx@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Storage Foundation limitations in Windows version?


I think the rational is MS would have to allow Veritas the ability to  
do VxFS on Windows, which I doubt they're inclined to do.  It's  
probably not a matter of Veritas wanting to do it, but more a matter  
of MS allowing them to.  I mean they could release a VxFS for windows  
right now, but there would be no assurances that upcoming patches from  
MS wouldn't break it.

When we use SFW, it's primary function is DMP.  The secondary is the  
better volume control than with LDM (win2k win2k3).  Haven't worked  
with MDM in win2k8.  It also makes mounting volumes with out a drive  
letter easier. In the 5.x versions, you do have flash-snaps, fast file  
resync, and that kind of stuff, which is handy for offline backups of  
exchange stores, for example.  The MSCS support is also pretty good.   
Plus VXVM does much better I/O stats than windows natively does so you  
can get better I/O tuning as well.   It also makes storage management  
uniform across both platforms.

You can make win2k3 boot disks into dynamic disks via SFW but there's  
some caveats and 'gotchas' (clearly documented in the admin guide).   
In win2k8 the boot stuff has changed and it isn't possible (or  
necessary IMHO) to do it via SFW.  The native win2k8 tools are  
sufficient and it keeps the support issues regarding booting under the  
MS umbrella.


So if you're already a Veritas shop, adding windows hosts to the mix  
is a reasonable idea.  If your a windows only shop, it might not make  
as much sense.   If I have one piece of advice, i'd be this: If you  
have any issues that involve storage in any way, open the Veritas  
ticket first, MS second.  It's been my experience that MS will quickly  
plop the ball back into the Veritas court if there is so much as a  
hint of it being a SFW related issue.  2nd, the Veritas folks are  
fairly sharp and can rule out Veritas as the issue fairly quickly so  
you go to MS with a lot of answers in hand.

Cheers,
Rich


On Jan 29, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Jon Price wrote:


 Hi,

 We've used Veritas a lot on Solaris, but trying to find out some
 about Veritas for Windows.
 Looks like it might be very limited.

 No Veritas filesystem for Windows. Curious what the rationale is.

 Does Veritas Volume Manager for Windows support space-optimized
 snapshots?
 If not, are there other options for creating this type of snapshot?   
 (Veritas or otherwise)

 Veritas VM for Windows and the system disk. Does vxvm handle the
 Windows boot disks?

 Thanks,
 Jon



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[Veritas-vx] Query 1

2009-02-02 Thread i man
All,

I plan to decomission one node which has a VCS and some disks assigned to
VXFS.  The node has to be removed from VCS and then reinstall the OS on the
system. VXFS has some disks coming from EMC SAN. Do I need to remove the
disks from the VXFS before I reinstall the OS so as to not create any
problems on the SAN side. I have switched off all the service groups and
removed the node from the VCS cluster already. Also would it be wise to
uninstall the VXFS from the node ?

Ciao
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