Re: [VFB] re: steelhead flies
Purple bucktaisl works just as well for the wing. Joyce On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Joyce, I have some purple seal and I will give it a shot at a gap-wrap over a silver wrapped base. I have purple spey grizzly, but no purple squirrel. shukkins. DonO - Original Message - *From:* Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com *To:* Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:25 PM *Subject:* [VFB] re: steelhead flies Don, have you ever gap wrapped or rope dubbed any steelhead fllies. I've a bunch of purple perils to tie, and I'm thinking that rope dubbing them would be quicker and look as good as the standard chenille and yarn type bodies. What do you think? Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Hook Swap
Thanks for letting me know. Rick From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 4:53:37 PM Subject: [VFB] Hook Swap A nice box of hooks arrived today, nice selection, and many THANKS to Rick for hosting the swap. Peggy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Hook Swap
Got mine yesterday, thanks for meistering Rick ! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Rick Zieger rdzieg...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for letting me know. Rick From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 4:53:37 PM Subject: [VFB] Hook Swap A nice box of hooks arrived today, nice selection, and many THANKS to Rick for hosting the swap. Peggy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] QFTD
I wish to change the thread. Rick: forgive me for piggy-backing on your QFTD. Especially for you who fish a lot of midges and other wet patterns. I was looking across my old list of Favorite Web sites, and clicked on some. You should have a look at San Juan River Fly patterns by Mike More at ifly4trout.com. There are several sets of photos from past swaps from that site, many of which would be useful on waters other than the San Juan. Quite a few could be rope-dubbed. Some of you (like me) might be interested in copying the photos to put in a collection of fly photos. Some excellent patterns and tying shown here. Forgive the change of subject. Back to lurking. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah Rick Zieger rdzieg...@yahoo.com 9/10/2010 7:09 AM 'Now, then, son,' the Old Man said 'we ain't going to talk any, because fishin' is a silent sport and a lot of conversation scares the fish and wrecks the mood.' Robert Ruark in 101 Years of Fishing Rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] opossum fur for dubbing source
When I was in New Zealand, I picked up some pelt scraps from a store. Some nice person brought the Australian Possums to NZ and with no preditors they have grown uncontrolled. Their pelt is very soft and the dubbing is nice to work with. I am sure you can find someone down there who sells it rather inexpensively if you want a pelt. Otherwise there are people who sell the dubbing. I have some and can find the seller if you want. Mike On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Joyce, I use Australian 'possum all the time- just love it. Have a bad of all kinds of pieces. With the rope-dub, I can get as many 'looks' as I want, plus I can take the dub off of different places on the animal to get more different looks. See the rope-dubbed flies on my website. Reuven is sending me a possum pelt, should be here soon. I'll send you some. If you just want to play and share right away, I'll bet you can pick up a grade 3 pelt at Moscow Hide and Fur for a reasonable price. Look for chinchilla while you're at it. Note to all ropers: If you have fur on the hide, like possum, muskrat, etc., rope dub clippings of fur without blending. The guard-hairs will become hackle-tips. Once you do blend a fur, try ice-dub as a hilight, and gold dubbing too. DonO - Original Message - From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:01 PM Subject: [VFB] opossum fur for dubbing source http://www.paradisefibers.net/Possum-Spinning-Fiber-p/47151.htm Check this out, ever since the rope dub swap I've been searching for a source of the dubbing I used. It was a old box from Al Neimic of Chicopee, MA, but I noticed a little lable about possum blend. This fiber place has all sorts of wools, and fibers from different animal, I think it could be a dubbing source. Has anyone tried blending and dying? Peggy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] opossum fur for dubbing source
Hi guys, just a quick word. Australain possum from Australia is illegal. Possums are a protected species in AUstralia,# HOWEVER: Possums from australia where shipped to New Zealand, many years ago for foood and fur (back inthe days when we sidnt know any better .. impacts offoregn species and all that). WHat this means is that you get an get really good possum fr etc from New Zealand. YOu can also get nice woolen articles that are relly warm where they have mixed possum fur with merino wool .. no need to feel guilty as Possums are uining the NZ ecology and you are doing NZ a favour .. :-) Ian (Austrialin in exile in UK) Homepage:- http://www.angelfire.com/on/theriverbank SwapPage http://www.angelfire.com/on/theriverbank/ftswaps.html From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] opossum fur for dubbing source Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:16:28 -0600 Joyce, I use Australian 'possum all the time- just love it. Have a bad of all kinds of pieces. With the rope-dub, I can get as many 'looks' as I want, plus I can take the dub off of different places on the animal to get more different looks. See the rope-dubbed flies on my website. Reuven is sending me a possum pelt, should be here soon. I'll send you some. If you just want to play and share right away, I'll bet you can pick up a grade 3 pelt at Moscow Hide and Fur for a reasonable price. Look for chinchilla while you're at it. Note to all ropers: If you have fur on the hide, like possum, muskrat, etc., rope dub clippings of fur without blending. The guard-hairs will become hackle-tips. Once you do blend a fur, try ice-dub as a hilight, and gold dubbing too. DonO - Original Message - From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:01 PM Subject: [VFB] opossum fur for dubbing source http://www.paradisefibers.net/Possum-Spinning-Fiber-p/47151.htm Check this out, ever since the rope dub swap I've been searching for a source of the dubbing I used. It was a old box from Al Neimic of Chicopee, MA, but I noticed a little lable about possum blend. This fiber place has all sorts of wools, and fibers from different animal, I think it could be a dubbing source. Has anyone tried blending and dying? Peggy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos/FOTW
Hi Gary; I really like this one too! Kinda a cross between Dave Whitlocks fox squirrell nymph and a Czech nymph. DonO: What's the advantage of not using a wire rib? I always thought the wire rib served two purposes, a little flash and secondly it add reinforcement to the dubbing. Wayne --- On Fri, 9/10/10, glw...@gundluth.org glw...@gundluth.org wrote: From: glw...@gundluth.org glw...@gundluth.org Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos/FOTW To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, September 10, 2010, 2:36 PM (Embedded image moved to file: pic02732.jpg) John Bethke's Pink Squirrel Nymph- This fly pattern recipe has a wire rib, which I would delete in favor of a dubbing mix that will segment and look the same without a rib. Use a little gold in the dubbing blend if you want the flash, and that will accent the segments. DonO Thanks for the critique. You're right. I tried to stay too close to the originator's recipe. And I could have rope dubbed the wire for the durabilitiy factor. I'll get better I hope. Back to the DVD and paying closer attention. LOL Background: John Bethke has said that he was frustrated by trout hitting his Bio-Strike indicator. So he went home and found he had some shell pink chenille that was a pretty close match colorwise. Here is his description of his fly: (See attached file: Pink Squirrel by John Bethke.docx) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Rope dub swap-back ground my fly
Just got back from working away and reading emails on my phone! Didn't look to closely at the pictures as I haven't got my flies yet but will let you know. Mine came about when I was sent some seals fur from a friend in Ireland for the purpose of experimentation with mixes for dry mayflies to fish on the loughs. I thought it would be a good idea to do rope dubbing for the bodies with a nice segmented result. I sent the flies over for testing (which I will be doing myself next week). They worked very well with one helping my friends son win a competition. The wings on the fly in the swap are congo hair which I find helps floatation but calf body hair also looks good but it isn't easy to get decent stuff. I'm thinking it may be worth adding a pearl rib in with the rope as well. Thanks to Dono for hosting and everyone else who took part. Ashley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] opossum fur for dubbing source
Hi Ian, Does this mean we're not supposed to have it? Ashley On 10 September 2010 21:45, Ian Mitchell ff_mi...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi guys, just a quick word. Australain possum from Australia is illegal. Possums are a protected species in AUstralia,# HOWEVER: Possums from australia where shipped to New Zealand, many years ago for foood and fur (back inthe days when we sidnt know any better .. impacts offoregn species and all that). WHat this means is that you get an get really good possum fr etc from New Zealand. YOu can also get nice woolen articles that are relly warm where they have mixed possum fur with merino wool .. no need to feel guilty as Possums are uining the NZ ecology and you are doing NZ a favour .. :-) Ian (Austrialin in exile in UK) Homepage:- http://www.angelfire.com/on/theriverbank SwapPage http://www.angelfire.com/on/theriverbank/ftswaps.html From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] opossum fur for dubbing source Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:16:28 -0600 Joyce, I use Australian 'possum all the time- just love it. Have a bad of all kinds of pieces. With the rope-dub, I can get as many 'looks' as I want, plus I can take the dub off of different places on the animal to get more different looks. See the rope-dubbed flies on my website. Reuven is sending me a possum pelt, should be here soon. I'll send you some. If you just want to play and share right away, I'll bet you can pick up a grade 3 pelt at Moscow Hide and Fur for a reasonable price. Look for chinchilla while you're at it. Note to all ropers: If you have fur on the hide, like possum, muskrat, etc., rope dub clippings of fur without blending. The guard-hairs will become hackle-tips. Once you do blend a fur, try ice-dub as a hilight, and gold dubbing too. DonO - Original Message - From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:01 PM Subject: [VFB] opossum fur for dubbing source http://www.paradisefibers.net/Possum-Spinning-Fiber-p/47151.htm Check this out, ever since the rope dub swap I've been searching for a source of the dubbing I used. It was a old box from Al Neimic of Chicopee, MA, but I noticed a little lable about possum blend. This fiber place has all sorts of wools, and fibers from different animal, I think it could be a dubbing source. Has anyone tried blending and dying? Peggy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] RE: UV ice dub
Hi All; I noticed a lot of you use this dubbing, why do you choose this versus other products? Thanks in advance; Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
