Re: [VFB] Pink Jig

2013-09-04 Thread BILL JOHN
I had some small jigs I purchased from cabela's 1/80 that I painted with finger 
nail polish.  I have not used them yet, but they look good.



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I would think that the pink metal beads would work wonderfully. Let me know. 
Joyce



On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

We don't have any shops like that in about 100 miles, Love living in this rural 
area but it is hadrd to find what you want. I do have some Pink metal beads 
that I plan on using.
They came from Flyman.
Tony


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I found great fluor beads,glass,at Joann's craft store. I shall put a bit of 
lead behind the bead to add a bit more weight. Joyce

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On Sep 1, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:


That will work I am sure. I will try tying some like that when I get back to 
the bench. Need to get some Pink Beads. I think I can get then from Flyman.
Tony


From: Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com
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Thanks. I am thinking that a pink bead head on a hook instead of a jig hook, 
and fished like a jig might work as well. I shall try that as well as try and 
find the jigs. Joyce



On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

Joyce,
The size on the package is 1/80. That is all I can find related to the size.
My son in law went out with a friend of mine last week and he did real well 
in this Jig. He broke off the two that were given to him on big Trout. They 
were fishing high water,
He was fishing it under an indicator. I am not fond of indicators nor Jigs 
but I plan on trying them down and across if I can get out. Right now they 
have been running 6 to 7 units round the clock to get the lake down. Looks 
like they might be doing that for the rest of the summer.
Tony

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I will try these on the Provo as soon as I find some pink jig heads.  What 
size of hooks are best? Thanks. Joyce



On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

These Pink Jigs have been the choice here on the White for several months.
Tying up some for a friend. They are fished under an indicator.
Arkansas Tony -- 
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Re: [VFB] re: Hobby Lobby and jelly rope

2011-08-25 Thread BILL JOHN
Look around, they should have some in .05.  If you are lucky you might find 
some in red or black.



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So, here's the question..went to Hobby Lobby yesterday and found some Stretch 
Magic in .7 mm, 1 mm and 1.5 mm sizes.  Is this the jelly rope stuff and 
what size do you use if this is correct? Inquiring minds wish to know as this 
mind wants to try some of those jelly nymphs. Joyce 
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Re: [VFB] Pelt-swaps

2010-09-18 Thread BILL JOHN
I like the idea, but I have to agree with Larry.  This could be a lot of work 
for somrone.





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DonO:  Any idea about how much a person might be invested in a joint ventre 
like 
this?  I would be interested in several pieces of dyed fur, but not a $100 
worth.

Larry Johnson
Springville, Utah

 Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 9/17/2010 10:30 AM 
Who feels like pooling resources to get good buys on pelts at Moscow HF to 
divide up amongst swappers?  Like the CO-OP swap, the meister buys the pelt, 
photos it, and cuts it up to divide amongst the swappers, who send in their 
share + SH.

Buys range from dirt-cheap to taxidermy quality, many animals listed (dubbing 
quality critters), and 3 pieces would be enough dubbing to last a very long 
time.

The numbers can be set by the meister and swappers.  (If you want half a pelt, 
find one more swapper.)

But a simple swap could go like this:  (Just a suggestion of an easy typical 
swap)



So you'd get a chunk of tail, some dense back,  off-color thinner belly. #1  
2 
swappers would want the mask for bushy flies.

There are hundreds of selections, so there could be many swaps.

Just a thought- one ore way to use the VFB for buying power.

DonO

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Re: [VFB] Tying Small Flies...

2010-01-03 Thread BILL JOHN
The thread size is very important. Iy you use 6 or 4 the head will be far too 
large.  Less is best.





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How does that go?  Something about  tye, tye and tye again.
Gary S 
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I regularly tie 18 through 24 It is just like tying the larger flies, the 
material has to be smaller, hackle, feathers. Also the use a thinner thread, 
0/8 works great. If you have more questions, i can answer specific ones for 
you.


jc


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Folks: I have a question on tying flies smaller than , say, a size 16. Or a 
size 14 in some cases. Like, how do you get all the materials tied into (or 
onto LOL) a Royal Wolff)??I have been reading as much as I can about bluegill 
fly fishing and fly tying,.and I was just reading about tying foam ants, and 
it said NOT to tie bluegill flies too small as the bluegill has a strong 
sucking power for insects that drop onto the surface of the water and they'd 
even take a size 28 in a foam ant and would hurt themselves as they'd swallow 
a fly that small all the way down their throat. So, it said to go to a bigger 
fly. like a size 18 or a 20. Well, I can barely even see a size 18 or 20 hook, 
even with my reading glasses on, much less tie a fly on one.  Does anybody 
here tie flies regularly in a size 18 or smaller??? If so, what is your 
secret?? Thanks, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] blending dubbing

2009-12-31 Thread BILL JOHN
Another method is to place your dubbing material in a sandwich bag.  Then get a 
can of pressurized computer cleaner.  Push the tube into the opening of the 
bag.  Give the material a blast.  It 
really does a good , fast job of blending dubbing.
 




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DonO: Maybe you can put the wet rope dubbing in our second video, Chuck
 
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Joyce, 
 
LOL, no rain on my parade.  I just don't pre-blend a lot of dubbings- this was 
a special case.  I make 'quick-blends' for the rope-dub for color variations, 
mottling, and graduations from light to dark, and I do those right on the 
core-material when I start the rope.  
 
On this occasion, the water blend was quick and easy and not messy at all, and 
I didn't have to find any brushes, so it took only about 5 minutes.  The damp 
natural fur dubbing was something I wanted to try to rope with, so I got that 
in the bargain.  Wet chinchilla is next on the list, then wet syn-seal.  I'm 
thinking the chinchilla will make the perfect sowbug if I can get the segments 
tight enough, and the dampness may be the key.  (Like some tiers steam their 
deer-hair before they pack it.) 
 
So, maybe for some things, the brush method is great- especially larger 
quantities for matching flies.  But I'm always slow to discard something 
before I check out all of the possibilities.  (I've learned that through 35 
years of engineering.)  I like the water-blend method and have some ideas and 
experimentation to do with damp dubbing.  I'll even try the conditioner idea, 
but I don't think the rope-dub will care once the dubbing is damp, or even 
wet.   h  more ideas coming in.  
 
One thing I'm thinking of is that the wet-blend method will also tell me what 
natural furs I have that are naturally waterproof, and I'll make dry-fly 
blends with those.  What about some natural oil, like preen-gland oil, added 
to the mix to make a dry-fly dubbing (instead of the conditioner)?
 
We do have some doggie brushes upstairs, and a Shitzu and a calico cat.  Next 
brushing will yeild some dubbings and I'll also try it your way with the 
brushes.  I don't know what the old-fashioned wool cards are, though.
 
So I'm not discarding your suggestion, as it's a good one.  That's why you 
didn't rain on my parade.  You just added another float to it.  
And so my parade got longer, 
and only my dubbing got wet.    ;o)
 
Don
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forgot to mention that you go to Wal mart or wherever and get two of those 
wire bristled kitty or doggie brushes. 


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote:

That is a lot of work..there's a much simpler way and no waiting for it to 
dry. Take your yarn, synthetics and put that with pinches of the flash, hair, 
whatever you want to mix on one brush. Rub the other brush against it, like 
old fashioned wool cards. It takes a few minutes of rubbing the dubbing 
makings back and forth between the brushes, and voila! perfect dubbing ready 
to use. Surely beats the water method and the mess that brings. I'd never go 
back to the messy, sloppy water method. Don't mean to rain on your parade, 
but this way is SO much easier and simpler. Joyce 



On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:

I just tried something that worked well.  Has anyone else done this?  Beats 
getting dubbing in my espresso via my coffee grinder.  I found one hit on 
the internnet so it is not novel, but I also don't think it is as common as 
the coffee grinder method.
 
I needed to blend some rabbit-dubbing with some ice-dub, flash dub,  quick 
descent.  I needed a good blend and no lumps in the blend.  So I filled up 
a tupperware dish about the size of a coffee-cup with hot tap-water.  I 
added the rabbit dubbing and then chopped up the other 3 dubbings over the 
container.

I stirred until everything broke up and was a well blended soup, than I 
drained almost all of the water out, leaving the dubbing.  I stirred it one 
more time to make sure the quick-descent was mixed in, then I poured it all 
out through a paper towel to strain it and then used the paper towel to 
soak up all of the extra water.  
 
The result was a damp glob of well-blended hilited part-natural dubbing.  
Working with it damp gave me a very tight well-defined segment.  But I'm 
letting the rest dry so I can fluff it a bit and tie some fuzzy hares ears 
that have cool colors mixed in with the rabbit.  These colors will 
accentuate the segments more and give the fly some flash in place of the