[VFB] Re: for fly fishing/tying discussion only - DUH !
No, not NUFF said.. Im afraid I have to agree with Bill et al. Ive not participated much over the last year or so, mainly because of the non-fly tying related material. I realise that this is a mainly US of A based group, and so topics for discussion will likely be related to what is pertinant to US folk but obviously there will be some US folk not interseted in specific topics. 8 years ago I signed up for a fly tying forum, not anything else and so, despite the tying gems that I still read in my daily review of posts, I am sad to say that I am going to unsubscribe. I have my own interests and one of them is most certainly not america's involvement in a war. If it was, I am sure that there are plenty more forums that would cater to me. I could come out strongly and tell you all exactly what I think of it, but then i'd wouldnt have a leg to stand on re: this mail. I could also have simply unsubscribed and said nothing, Im sure not many would have noticed, but I felt it was necessary to at least back up the call for a return to a more fly-tying related forum..as it was in the past. This WAS, in my opinion, the best forum related to fly tying and fishing on the web. I have enjoyed the banter, the jokes, and participating in some fantastic fly swaps, but I draw my line at listening to war related stories. Yes, everyone is entitled post a pic of a grandson et cetera, but not when there is a political bent behind it. And even then it takes from the fly tying topics. I will say a prayer, but it is going to be for an end to this and all unnecessary righteous acts of violence. It is obviously hard for some to agree with, and that is certainly understandable if you have spent and risked life and limb for your country. This just isnt the forum for it. Good luck to you all. From: Bill and Tina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, 24 October, 2008 0:49:32 Subject: [VFB] Re: for fly fishing/tying discussion only - DUH ! I agree Jay and everyone else Fly Fishing and Tying is why I joined the list not prayer groups or political rantings. I’ve been a member for over 8 years and I do not participate much anymore because of all discussions of other subjects I don’t come to the list for birthday updates, prayer lists, sport team discussions etc. I joined for Fly Fishing Stuff so if this is a prayer list I’ll have to say bye. Bill From:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:58 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: for fly fishing/tying discussion only - DUH ! I've been a member of the VFB for 10 + years. And . . . .we've always treated each other as family, including births, deaths, birthdays and other info that friends pass along to each other. I said it once before when I was the MODERATOR of this list and I'll say it again. All work and no play makes for a miserable exixtence. Likewise, Posts limited strictly to fly fishing / tying makes for a very dull list. Dull lists are ones that lose membership. We gain a few members and we lose a few members. Nothing wrong with that! I for one welcome a little banter among members and also short family updates. Hey, don't tell a grandpaw that he can't let the list know he's just become a grandfather. Nuff Said ?!?!?! JIMMY D. MOORE VFB Moderator Emeritus P.S. You migh not see many posts from our list owner, Byard Miller, but I garon-damn-tee you that Byard is aware of what transpires on this list. J Paulson wrote: We must stop this discussion right now. I'm sure the only view we *all* share is that we want to talk about flyfishing. The other stuff does not belong and nothing drives members away quicker. Is this group moderated??? Jay - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:43 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request Jeff: I hear ya.. And I'm glad your son, and others like him fight the bad guys over there, so we don't have to fight them HERE, Chuck - Original Message - From: Jeff Frye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request Bill, that is one of the most intellectually dishonest posts ever on this list. You state your leftist position and then tell everybody to keep it about fishing and then apologize for the rant. The alternative would be to not hit the send button. On a more topic related note, I have some pics of my son and his Army buddies fishing one of the palace ponds in Baghdad . I also have a cool photo of him following through on a golf shot hit from one of the stone portals of the same palace. It was shot from behind to make him a silhouette with that pond in the distance. Thanks
[VFB] Re: for fly fishing/tying discussion only - DUH !
I agree Jay and everyone else Fly Fishing and Tying is why I joined the list not prayer groups or political rantings. I’ve been a member for over 8 years and I do not participate much anymore because of all discussions of other subjects I don’t come to the list for birthday updates, prayer lists, sport team discussions etc. I joined for Fly Fishing Stuff so if this is a prayer list I’ll have to say bye. Bill _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:58 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: for fly fishing/tying discussion only - DUH ! I've been a member of the VFB for 10 + years. And . . . .we've always treated each other as family, including births, deaths, birthdays and other info that friends pass along to each other. I said it once before when I was the MODERATOR of this list and I'll say it again. All work and no play makes for a miserable exixtence. Likewise, Posts limited strictly to fly fishing / tying makes for a very dull list. Dull lists are ones that lose membership. We gain a few members and we lose a few members. Nothing wrong with that! I for one welcome a little banter among members and also short family updates. Hey, don't tell a grandpaw that he can't let the list know he's just become a grandfather. Nuff Said ?!?!?! JIMMY D. MOORE VFB Moderator Emeritus P.S. You migh not see many posts from our list owner, Byard Miller, but I garon-damn-tee you that Byard is aware of what transpires on this list. J Paulson wrote: We must stop this discussion right now. I'm sure the only view we *all* share is that we want to talk about flyfishing. The other stuff does not belong and nothing drives members away quicker. Is this group moderated??? Jay - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:43 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request Jeff: I hear ya.. And I'm glad your son, and others like him fight the bad guys over there, so we don't have to fight them HERE, Chuck - Original Message - From: Jeff Frye mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request Bill, that is one of the most intellectually dishonest posts ever on this list. You state your leftist position and then tell everybody to keep it about fishing and then apologize for the rant. The alternative would be to not hit the send button. On a more topic related note, I have some pics of my son and his Army buddies fishing one of the palace ponds in Baghdad. I also have a cool photo of him following through on a golf shot hit from one of the stone portals of the same palace. It was shot from behind to make him a silhouette with that pond in the distance. Thanks to everyone that does what they can to keep troop morale high. --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Bill and Tina mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bill and Tina mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 9:41 AM Jimi, Will do. Our people need our help. BUT that solder shouldn't have even been in this illegal war we are conducting in Iraq. I blame our MIS-leaders. Everyone should be flaming our congress to get our boys home. That is what will HELP these solders. This is the last time responding to such a post... This has NOTHING to do with fly fishing or tying and is honestly why I don't participate in this list much anymore. Start a prayer list! Or better yet start an Anti-WAR list and I will post all over the thing. I'm SICK of what OUR country is doing! And I'm sick of these support our troops stickers on cars. Our country is going to hell and we can afford to pay for this war on credit? Arrggg... honestly I've got to stop now or I'll say stuff that will hurt people's feelings. Let's keep this list on the subject of FLY FISHING and TYING. Besides you don't know what God somebody will be praying to... could be the wrong guy. Sorry about the rant. Bill -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dail Graham Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:58 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request Jim-My prayer is for a successful surgery and rapid recovery for Sgt Martin. His sacrifice for us is greatly appreciated. Dail Graham US Army retired - Original Message - From: Desert Eagle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Desert Eagle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:09 PM Subject: [VFB] Urgent Prayer Request Folks, I have an Urgent Prayer Request
